San Diego - 94.1 FM J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

[Dilbert-1985]

Gee, from the sound of things, she hasn't been taking this as seriously as she should. It's nice for Tommy to be a good friend and drag her to these meetings, but if he has to drag her somewhere, is she really taking this as seriously as she should? Rehab was hard, she said. At least the rehab in Oregon sounded tough to go through. But the rehab in Newport Beach was easier she said. I hope she didn't think of that as being on vacation.


And then you wonder if she is liking the attention of being a celebrity in these meetings. That could explain why they go to a different one each time. Because each time a new group can be impressed that local celebrities like Laura and Little Tommy are there. That wouldn't happen day after day if they went to the same group meeting each day.

It's funny that Tommy can't believe what people might think about his relationship with Laura. I hope he's a good friend to her but they are both unattached adults, so what does he expect.

[Wabbitsd]

yourmama...lol. I don't know if you should apologize...reuse? re-sue? both are kinda interesting words in Tommy's wierd world of wonder.

[Dilbert-1985]

I wonder what will happen if or when Little Tommy finds another love interest and doesn't have enough time for Laura to drag her up mountains to climb and drag her to AA meetings?

And Tommy has to spend time with his own kids too. He's been a good friend to Laura as far as we know, but the time will come when he won't have as much free time for her. It's got to be tough on her, too, with her marriage apparently falling apart and all the child care issues that will raise.

And Laura is concerned about her weight gain in rehab? Well, would you rather be a size 10 as she said she is now, and also be clean and sober, or be a skinny minnie size 4 but have substance abuse problems? What's more important?

[listener13]

Originally Posted by pax

I don't dislike either of them; I'm just curious (nosy) as to the whole Laura story. She appeared to have it "together." It makes me want to know more about all of the cast of the show. There must be someone out there who knows details.

You must be talking about another Laura - this woman never had it together. She was (and still is) a freaking mess.

[pax]

True, I don't know Laura or her life. From the bits I heard on the radio she was happily married, had two healthy kids that she appeared to adore, and had a nice job, and a nice home. Obviously, I got it wrong!!

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I have been reading all your posts for weeks but because of a glitch in signing up (and activating), I haven't been able to join in!

I've been listening to J&J for years and just recently learned about all the drama behind the show (mostly thanks to you guys!) I really appreciate the info that you share here and hope that I can maybe add to the discussion from time to time. Be nice to me - I'm a newbie to all this forum stuff

Hi, I'm OneKidOneDogMom, and I'm addicted to the J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

Oh...and....

LLATTRBM (Laura Laughing All The Time Really Bugs Me)

[surfing_texan]

Hey, just like OneKidOneDogMom, I've been reading these posts for quite some time now, but couldn't participate because of the "glitch"..so this post might seem random and all over the place because it is a combination of things I've been wanting to say on here for weeks!

1. LBMSBIWTP (Laura bugs me so bad I want to puke)
2. My husband and I met DaveCain once, and he seemed like a genuine, and nice guy. While I don't ever think cheating is ok, I have to say I wouldn't be surprised, because it seems as though Laura checked out of their marriage a long time ago.
3. I don't feel sorry for Laura. She doesn't have a high stress job, they only lived pay check to pay check because she was spending it all on booze, drugs, lotto tickets, clothes, blah, blah, blah..the list goes on. So for me to feel any kind of sympathy for her is virtually impossible, life is often times what you make it. The only people I feel sorry for are Evan, Charlie, and Dave.
4. In my line of work, I've dealt with many recovering addicts, and I would be highly surprised if Laura didn't relapse...she is far, far from having the right mind set that is needed to truly kick her addictions.
5. Is anybody else wondering about Chip's parents? My husband and I would never allow any of our children to be going places with somebody so fresh out of rehab. Seems strange to me...

All of you that post regularly are far more entertaining than the show...clear channel should start paying you guys!

[pax]

Has anyone else heard that Dave cheated? To the previous poster, how do you know Laura checked out of the marriage a long time ago? Also, I totally agree that some of the regular posters crack me up!!

Did anyone else find this site by Googling "davecain san diego?"

[Ritchie]

Originally Posted by pax

Has anyone else heard that Dave cheated?

I think this is just rumor at this point.

Most of the time when marriages break up, the husband is assumed to be the one cheating. I wouldn't put it past Laura at this point though.

My opinion is that Dave just got tired of it all. He quit his job to be there for his kids because she wasn't able to take care of them.

Also it seems that Dave is the one taking care of the kids. It sounds like Laura doesn't get to see them every day from what she has written.

[User_Name]

Sadly I don't think this is the first time she's gone to rehab. My theory is that her husband didn't think the posh relaxed Newport Beach center was going to change her addictions.

I do hope that for the sake of those kids she does change and stays on the clean and sober path.

[Alpinemaps]

Hi all...I, too, fall into the 'couldn't post because of the glitch' (I guess...just finally signed up yesterday, and today I can post).

Long time lurker of this thread, first time poster...

I haven't had the chance to hear Laura on the air yet. Every time I tune it, it's either a commercial (as happened to me last week), or she isn't on the air (is she on the air this week? Maybe I'm shutting off the radio before she comes on the air?). I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Yesterday, I listened to Jeff & Jer talk about the need to install camera all around cities. That it wouldn't really be like Big Brother. Then, 30 seconds later, they said 'I see the phone lines lighting up, which means you guys disagree with us - we don't have the energy to debate you, so we're moving onto another topic'

And that's the problem. Jeff & Jer are catering to the masses that want things sanitized. People that want things to be okay. That's why we're getting the filtered email messages on the website, telling us how strong Laura and Tommy are. That's why we're only hearing part of the story about Laura. This is the same group that wants to hear all things American Idol, all the time. This is the same group that wants to hear about Hollywood types, 24/7. The same types that need things staged, so they can have their perfect little world.

I guess I left the target audience years ago, but just couldn't admit it.

My parents have belonged to 12-step programs for 25+ years. My mother has been a Jeff & Jer listener for years. I asked her this weekend, what she thought about Laura. She just shook her head, and said she was disappointed, and that she's setting herself up to fail.

One of the 12 Traditions of AA, is "Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films." My mother quoted that to me. Laura certainly isn't practicing that tradition.

I know that, deep down, none of us want anything bad to happen to anyone. I wish Laura all the strength she needs. But, she's going about it all the wrong way. I'm disappointed with the show, and I'm disappointed with the station, for taking this 'star' treatment with Laura. Unfortunately, I can understand why they did it - the demographics they are after love Laura, and she's a hero to that demo.

For the rest of us - we're better off tuning into our iPods, our MP3 players, or the many other better morning shows that are out there in San Diego.

[LisaP]

Originally Posted by Ritchie

I think this is just rumor at this point.

Most of the time when marriages break up, the husband is assumed to be the one cheating. I wouldn't put it past Laura at this point though.

My opinion is that Dave just got tired of it all. He quit his job to be there for his kids because she wasn't able to take care of them.

Also it seems that Dave is the one taking care of the kids. It sounds like Laura doesn't get to see them every day from what she has written.

Ritchie -

I agree with you 100%. The only other person taking care of the kids [besides davecain] was their "nanny". I would bet money that he quit his job [which Laura referred to his "dream" job, for his kids]. He made the sacrifice.

As much as Laura "painted the picture of the perfect family", it was nothing more than a "painting".

I do know of one mom sacrificing being with her child due to the military, but can guarantee you, if she were in the same town [heck, the same state or county] she would be with her kids, especiallly after 100 days away.

I have been too busy to look back, but on Tommy giving Laura her '90 day pin', am I doing the math wrong? She was in rehab for 100 days, and has been out for 12 days. Why is he now getting a 90 day pin?

[OneKidOneDogMom]

I agree with those that have posted about the e-mails on the website being all pro-Laura/Tommy. Did anyone else notice that http://www.sdradio.net deleted the three comments that were originally on their post about Laura coming back to the show? http://sdradio.net/2007/06/26/welcome-back-laura-cain/

I was one of three people that commented about how sugar-coated and sanitized Laura's return was...the comments lasted on the website for about 24 hours before they were pulled. I, too, wonder if Dave Cain or Star threatened legal action if the comments stayed online...???

I've talked to a lot of people about the whole fiasco and most are really disappointed in the show for NOT laying it all on the table. Sure, Laura is entitled to her privacy - but if she didn't want to air her "dirty laundry", she should have quietly resigned and concentrated on her family and her recovery.

I found this thread by Googling "Laura Cain" - and spent hours and hours going back reading all that has transpired. I had *NO* clue how staged and fake the show really is....

Also, I find it really interesting that Laura is just now getting her 90 day token. I cannot believe that someone that has worked "so hard" for her sobriety wasn't counting the hours until she hit that milestone! And I also agree with the poster that surmised that Laura probably relapsed at some point in her recovery - hence the delayed award of her 90 day token.

Oooh, I have so much that I've wanted to comment on over the last few weeks...but I'll end by saying that I'm glad I found this place (and that others did, too!) Cheers!

[mel41099]

I've been a lurker here for the past month or so and have found all of you to be hysterical...I had no idea how staged everything is and have so enjoyed reading the threads all the way back and allthe good gossip you guys have!!!!

Laura has bugged me for years, now so even more. She thinks she's so cool b/c she's been to rehab, and throws around rehab buzz words mockingly. Now not only does she work 4 hours a day but she doesn't even take care of her kids anymore, and can't even make it to meetings??? She obviously isn't taking this seriously and is making a joke out of all of it. Calling her patio check in a "pain in the ass"? and how she's going to drive up to see her "rehab homies"? And telling Tommy "thank you so much for getting my sober butt to all those meetings. I really appreciate the push"
You need a freakin' push? C'mon....

Why does Chip go everywhere with them????

On the showgram Laura will say something about rehab and then 10 minutes later Jeff is making jokes about Jerry's "meditation room" saying it has black lights and exhaust fans, and Jerry is saying he's starting the 4th of July at 9am...what the hell kind of mixed message is that???

The show is like a train wreck...I can't stop listening

Off the Laura topic for a minute - I wonder if Jerry is a tyrant and a total jerk...he has a huge power trip and doesn't sound like he'd be fun to work for.
And what was up with that totally lame call this morning from the girl who wanted to uninvite her friend as a bridesmaid...totally staged and she kept mixing up her story. Too funny...or not.

[Jammie J.]

Did anyone hear when Jerry was playing that jazz music this morning (part of his favorite things), he then asked the theoretical question if the artist were playing in a local locale would someone accompany him. Everyone said "no" except Delana, she said she'd go, which I thought was sweet. In turn, someone asked Delana why she'd go and Laura butted in (before Delana could reply) and said Delana had said yes because she was a "butt kisser". Delana then did say it was because she liked that kind of music, but I thought, "Hmmm, a little jealousy there, Laura??"

I guess it was ironic to me, because most companies require their employees to be drug free -- that whole "drug free work environment" thing. With random tests and all. Guess that passed clear channel by?

You know, Laura used to serve a purpose on the show (kind of) with traffic and weather and miscellaneous stuff like that. Since that's been removed from her job duties, perhaps the only thing left is to "laugh manically and appear happy"? Thus explaining the annoying laughing?

And, holy hell, I had no idea rehab centers were so expensive? At $25k-ish per center that she went to? That's a ton of money.

[Longtimelistenr]

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up

[Daisy CA]

I'm a lurker, too, and I'm addicted to this thread! Due to the same "glitch", this is the first time I've been able to post. Some thoughts on ...
...Laura - my hypothesis is that this addiction to "nose candy" has been going on for quite some time. I remember one of the "11 listeners" calling in asking Laura to please blow her nose, and Laura blamed it on a cold or allergy, and that was at least 3 or 4 years ago. Dave probably gave her the ultimatum many times and Laura freaked and begged for another chance. Remember all the great things he did for her? Quitting his pilot job, taking the family on a surprise trip to Hawaii, etc. I'm no advocate for extramarital relations, but I'm sure it must have rough for him being married to an addict and feeling like she is not the person he married. It sounds like everything came to a boil when Charlie hit the flagpole...she may have OD'd from the stress of that and the affair thing and was forced into rehab to save herself and her job.

...Tommy - I always thought I was a good judge of character, and thought Tommy was a egotistical womanizing pig. After reading the Jeff & Jer email blogs, I started to doubt my opinion. Like Young American said, it's all about "Tommy, you're such a great friend...son...dad...dieter"...rah, rah, rah! Thank goodness I found this site! He loves to portray himself as this "sensitive guy" who loves his family and is a supportive friend so he can help the ratings and attract more women. Too bad more people don't see through his act...

...the Showgram - I can only listen to a few minutes a day before I have to move on to something else. It seems staged and not at all funny. I understand they are aiming their "family-values" and touchy-feeling stuff towards their "soccer mom" demographic, but it's nauseating, and I AM their demographic!

Finally, we need to invite "Insight by Jake" and "Carl" to this thread!!!

http://sdradio.net/2007/04/16/laura-...ne-more-month/

[WhoMe]

I am another that has been lurking and caught in the "glitch".

My husband has been clean and sober for 22 years 6 mos 24 days. You get the 90 day token on day 90 because it's THAT important. Your friends do not drag you to meetings, you go because they are THAT important. He went to a meeting every day for the first two years he was sober. He doesn't go now...but he doesn't drink or use and there were never any excuses.

Laura is doing what she has to do to LOOK like she's with the program. She's been out of rehab 12 days and has missed meetings 3 days. If Tommy wasn't "dragging" her I'll bet that number missed would be higher. He can't do it for her...and him trying doesn't make him a great friend...it means he NEEDS AlAnon to understand the disease.

I could very much echo what so many of you have said...but as it's my first post, and I'm not sure I'm doing it correctly...let me just say Hello and LBMBT (Laura bugs me big time).

[OneKidOneDogMom]

"Finally, we need to invite "Insight by Jake" and "Carl" to this thread!!!"

I totally agree with this, Daisy CA - anyone that hasn't taken the time to read the comments on the sdradio.net site should go over and take the 10 minutes...lots of good info and insight there!

I'm so glad there are so many other newbies out there that also got caught up in the activation glitch - I was so frustrated that I could only read here and not comment!

[eyeseeyou]

Longtime lurker...finally registered.
The showgram is not the same anymore. They preach about opening up there lives with us "there family" but are holding back so much now that Laura is back. She sounds different...maybe I was just used to her candy nose voice. Jerry sounds pissed, I thought it was me at first...but reading your posts, you picked up on it too. "Don't do anything bad"...
Tommy...I think he has a genuine part of him that wants to HELP Laura. I think he is more so thinking about "saving-the show" part of helping Laura...not anything romantic. He's the producer ...he fixes things. I feel that's why he is going overboard about talking about "positive" Laura in his blogs. He know we read them, he knows how bad EVERYTHING looks from the outside. He wants to save his job, and if that means making Laura go to those meetings, he will do it.
When Laura was gone...Delana bugged me. Not anymore...Laura does. It REALLY pissed me off her blog about the cute outfit she put together before she was shipped off. First of all I hated all of her outfits, and second of all she hasn't come to the point where she thinks she had a problem. She sounds bitter that she was caught like a little kid & punished. I remember when her and Tommy had the purse bet. She said she HATED being told what to do, even about showing up to work on time. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD LAURA...its YOUR job!!!She had to go to rehab to try to save her marriage, her job...NOT her life in her eyes.

[longtimereader]

Hi everyone! I've been a lurker on this site for a LONG time. I too was held up by the "glitch." You guys are truly much more entertaining than the entire Jeff & Jer Showgram! I'm so glad I can post now!

I started listening to J&J when I was in junior high - this year I turn 30. I was a big J&J fan up until Star 100.7 turned into Jack. That's when it all went downhill. I kept listening to J&J for a while hoping that they would start doing the same funny and entertaining show that I used to like so much. As we ALL know, that never happened. Shortly after the switch to Jack I found this thread and was happy to find so many people who felt the exact same way!

I agree - "Carl" and "Insight by Jake" need to make their way to this thread. "Insight by Jake"s post on SDRadio, which BecinCA posted here, was hysterical!

[listener13]

Originally Posted by Longtimelistenr

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up

Hi New Reader!

[surfing_texan]

Welcome back New Reader! (Should we start calling her "New Name"?)

Anyways..somebody asked how I know she checked out of the marriage. I don't know that as fact, I'm just saying...a person who cares more about drinking, doing drugs, shopping, hair extentions, and all the other superficial things Laura focused on is not so into their marriage. Plus all her comments about "poor DaveCain had to work all day and then take care of the kids because I was just SO DANG TIRED", or "Poor DaveCain hasn't gotten any in so long because I've been SO DANG TIRED", etc. She hasn't been there for him, or for her kids. I don't assume that he was the 1 to cheat. I actually believe that women cheat more often than men (and I am a woman myself, no I have never cheated). I was just saying I wouldn't be surprised if Dave had moved on with an almost "new life" a long time ago, as he and the kids were basically living life without her. She may have been around physically, but definitely not mentally.

[pax]

EyeSeeYou wrote, "Jerry sounds pissed, I thought it was me at first...but reading your posts, you picked up on it too. "Don't do anything bad"..."

Has anyone else picked up on Jerry's anger? I get a feeling is "over" the daily grind at this point in his game.

[10snancy]

Originally Posted by Longtimelistenr

Hi all. A friend directed me to this website and I wanted to say a few things.
You guys sound like a bunch of "haters"..I just don't understand why you care so much about people you don't seem to like! If I were y'all I would just change the station and be a little happier since Jeff&Jer and all the showgram members seem to bring out soooo much negativity in you all!

Personally I like the showgram and everyone in it. Whatever is going on in their personal lives...WHO CARES?! ITs cool if they talk about personal things, but I don't feel like I am "owed" any explanations about anything.

As for the show being "staged"...hate to break it to you all but much like the news, television, radio, etc....it is ENTERTAINMENT. I can't think of anything that is 100% real and unstaged. Everything is regulated to an extent, wake up

Hey, I agree with most of what Longtimelistenr had to say and I'm definitely not New Reader (whoever that is). I never listen to the show, but I am a Star listener and came upon this thread by accident. I hear the clips during the day from the J & J show, and it has no appeal to me so I don't turn it on. I find reading this thread interesting, but also wonder why all of you continue to listen to the show when you don't seem to like it. Does anyone listen to the Rick and Jen show? I think Rick is really funny and I like that they play more music than what I've been told is played on the showgram. I'd also like to hear more positive comments about the station.

[OneKidOneDogMom]

Originally Posted by 10snancy

I'd also like to hear more positive comments about the station.

If you want positive stuff about the show, just read the E-mail blog and Tommy's blog on the Star website. Of course, everything you read there is censored by the Star staff (Tommy) and is not a bit real-life, but.....

I think those of us that comment here are wishing for the "old" J&J show to come back...it's gone downhill the past couple of years and now with all the rehab stuff, I think it's even worse.

When they are good (and original), they are very good. When they're mediocre and copycat, they're just plain bad. I just keep hoping that something will click again and they will get better!

[pax]

Frankly, I enjoy picking these guys apart. Why? Well, they have made a career out of inviting us into their lives. I say - do it authentically or don't do it at all. Don't hold back the bad stuff when it suits you. So I come here to read the "negative" (i.e. part of real life) stuff the Showgram has going on since they don't talk about it on air. I don't listen the show very much anyway. And I'm a stay at home mom at the moment and this board is, quite simply, entertainment.

[Trixie]

Sign me up! I will have to do my research by reviewing the previous months and years of posts. I'm new to the Drama Club, but a San Diego Native for >40 years.

I feel that provides me with more authentic real life experience than the on-air crew of J&J combined. (Let's see, they 'experience' San Diego about 4 hours a day (minus commercials), 5 days a week (minus holidays), 20 days a month (minus vacations), 12 months a year (give or take some sick days and Best Of Shows).

This thread is the best thing since Dr. Demento. Humor, honesty, humble truths. For those of you brave enough to post, I applaud you. Probably for every one poster, there are 11 people who lurk but don't post. I'm happy to be one of the posters.

Trixie - Poster Child of the J&J MSDCT

[Longtimelistenr]

OK, while I do disagree with the "attitudes" of some people here, I will say this: I have listened to Jeff and Jer since I was in elementary school. I am now 26 years old (hence the name "longtimelistenr") and I agree that the show really isn't the same. I maybe listen an hour a week now, if that. Maybe I am just jaded, or maybe the showgram members are jaded...but I just remember the show being a lot funnier, a lot more "involved." But maybe I just don't listen enough. I miss the days when they would do the silliest things...where is
Randy? Is it just me or is he missing from the showgram. Oh well, have a good 4th everyone!

[caligirl30]

Did I miss a step? Has it been discussed yet exactly HOW rehab was paid for? My theory: Tommy is soooo involved and proud of Laura, because he paid for it....???