San Diego - 94.1 FM J&J Morning Show Drama Club Thread

[zodiac]

She's getting full custody?? ^^^^^^
Did I miss something?

[GirlfromOR]

She mentioned full custody in one of her blogs. She said that she looks forward to them living together again. I don't know if she meant full custody, but it seemed like she was hopeful of this.

I'm not saying she is molesting them. I completely understand the family bed concept, but I think it is weird given that she's talked about them all running around naked together, naked tickle time, etc. I just think that there is an age where that is no longer appropriate. That is my opinion. You said you let your kids sleep w/ you when your husband isn't home. That is different than them sleeping w/ her all of the time IMO.

[Layla]

Originally Posted by GirlfromOR

She mentioned full custody in one of her blogs. She said that she looks forward to them living together again. I don't know if she meant full custody, but it seemed like she was hopeful of this.

I'm not saying she is molesting them. I completely understand the family bed concept, but I think it is weird given that she's talked about them all running around naked together, naked tickle time, etc. I just think that there is an age where that is no longer appropriate. That is my opinion. You said you let your kids sleep w/ you when your husband isn't home. That is different than them sleeping w/ her all of the time IMO.

Naked tickle time is strange...I'll give you that Personally, i don't think Nudity is a big deal, at that age. i think it becomes a big deal when kids realize what sex is, etc. It's one of those things that it depends on your child, you know? Anyway, that's just what I think. And if there was no daddy in the house, they may very well sleep with me all the time, if they wanted to. I say as long as a kid has that innocence and wants to sleep with momma, that's fine, it's when he DOESN'T want to and gets forced to, that it becomes a problem.

[boris85]

Originally Posted by Layla

Lot's of people have "family beds". I don't care how bad a mother she is, to even insinuate something sexual is going on there, it's really just not right. I am a mother. I love my kids. I cuddle them all the time. If daddy's not home, I've got no problem letting them climb up in bed with me and fall asleep. Sure, not all parents do this, but just because you wouldn't doesn't mean it's "innapropriate". Now, if they were all sleeping together nude, that'd be different.

It's not so much that it's a kinky love-fest, but that she just is so pathetic and needy and has no life so she has to sleep with her kids.

[Layla]

Originally Posted by boris85

It's not so much that it's a kinky love-fest, but that she just is so pathetic and needy and has no life so she has to sleep with her kids.

Ahh...I get it now!

[Carol]

Personally, I really think that the kids sleeping in bed with Laura is not a big deal (unlike her) and in this instance I feel that trying to make Laura sleeping in the same bed as her children out to be a bad or weird thing is kinda pathetic. Also, I think almost every time she has talked about naked this or that it is for the most part the kids that are naked, I do believe there was an instance when the kids were younger that they all surprised her naked but I was under the impression naked tickle time was with the kids...

That sounds much more harsh than I want it to, Sorry!

However, everyone has their own opinions, I am not trying to stir the pot in any way, just voicing my opinion.

[Sapphie]

Originally Posted by cattychathy

From Tommy's Blog

"You know what question I can’t answer?"


Hmmmm, let me guess....

Why the other dwarves named you "Sleazy"?

Lmao Catty!

Insightbyjake...hilarious diary entry from Laura!

[Sapphie]

Originally Posted by boris85

Dave Cain should demand a paternity test. I bet there's a little Keebler Elf somewhere with a big smile on his face....

...and we all know his name and number, don't we boys and girls?

[pax]

I concur with Layla regarding sleeping with kids. It's how the majority of the world does it.

[GirlfromOR]

Lots of kids sleep w/ their parents when they are babies. The kid is almost 8 years old though. Weird. I think that he should at least have the OPTION to sleep in his own bed. From what she makes it sound like, she will have one bed in her new house. I respect that you guys think that sleeping in the same bed is fine. I do too. Maybe my opinion is jaded by the way Laura conducts her life... constantly needing others to reassure her, comfort her, etc. I don't know. For any other parent, it is probably fine, but Laura has a lot of issues. I think Boris got it right when he said it is about her neediness, not molestation. I don't think that Laura is a molestor, so please don't take my words wrong. Maybe bringing the naked tickle time into it was wrong (though I still think her family surprising her naked and then her getting naked also, if I am remembering right is weird. I think that only happened a year ago...).

[SDReadhead]

Originally Posted by Sapphie

I think the only reason he is doing nothing about it is that he found out there's nothing he can do...why go to all the trouble of finding out names, numbers and "everything"? I'd like to know exactly what he's praying for them...."Hello God...it's me Tommy again...listen, those mean people are at it again...could you just smite them all for me? And while I'm here, could you see fit to send me a mathemagical scale for Christmas that won't reflect the weight I'm about to receive?"

You have a great way with words, Sapphie! Oh oh, I called you by name. Now Tubby is going to find you.

Boris, you are so right about the pathetic neediness of LBM and how her kids become surrogate adults in her life.

Jake, funny diary.

Now, who started the game of what the spewgram is getting one another for Christmas? I can't find the thead, but kudos to that person. Here's my offering:

LBM to Tubby: Oh, wait, according to Amused, LBM already gave Tubby a gift, if you know what I mean!
LBM to Jeff: Some testosterone. I was going to say this should be from Randy or Jeff, but they have so very little of their own they can't spare any.
The Spewgram to Delana: A one-way ticket to anywhere but 94.1 in the morning.
Moochie to herself: Some self respect and dignity. If there is any left, she can share with LBM.
Moochie to Tubby: Lumpia, tacos, rice, beans -- anything to clog his arteries with lard so that the life insurance policy kicks in to "payout" mode as fast as possible.

[Wabbitsd]

I don't have any problem with family bed situations. The problem that I am "hearing" is that it's Lauara's wish to have them with her. Not even thinking the sexual aspect, but she's sounding a lot like she is trying to make them really really dependent on her--for HER OWN REASONS, not for their sake.

They probably need their own rooms, their own beds, etc. etc. If they don't sleep there every night, that's fine, but they should probably have spaces of their own. Charlie may enjoy the family bed, but he may be an object of ridicule among his friends...or even unwittingly among their parents if this all is innocently mentioned. Evie seems to be pretty independent, but I worry about Charlie, and all I know is what she has written here. He seems so dependent on her emotionally, it would concern me.

One of the most important parts of raising children (to me, at least) is to resist the temptation to cave in and satisfy your own insecurities as an adult (this is the worry I have about her kids as well as FH's--not from Amused pt. of view, but his) instead of leading them to be independent and strong persons within themselves. The only identity FH and Laura have is their "bigdealness" and their need for their kids to think they are "Bigdeals." Control Freaks.

andohmygod..jake. I was about to call child protective services when I read the refrigerator game line....LOL!

[pax]

"(though I still think her family surprising her naked and then her getting naked also, if I am remembering right is weird. I think that only happened a year ago...)."

_________________________________________________________________

WTF??????

[pax]

WabbitSD - excellent post regarding parents satisfying their own issues by using their children. It takes willpower to raise kids so that they are able, in every sense of the word, to leave the nest and fly when the time comes.

[Carol]

Originally Posted by GirlfromOR

Lots of kids sleep w/ their parents when they are babies. The kid is almost 8 years old though. Weird. I think that he should at least have the OPTION to sleep in his own bed. From what she makes it sound like, she will have one bed in her new house. I respect that you guys think that sleeping in the same bed is fine. I do too. Maybe my opinion is jaded by the way Laura conducts her life... constantly needing others to reassure her, comfort her, etc. I don't know. For any other parent, it is probably fine, but Laura has a lot of issues. I think Boris got it right when he said it is about her neediness, not molestation. I don't think that Laura is a molestor, so please don't take my words wrong. Maybe bringing the naked tickle time into it was wrong (though I still think her family surprising her naked and then her getting naked also, if I am remembering right is weird. I think that only happened a year ago...).

Oh, in no way did I think you were puting it into a sexually deviant context. I just disagreed with it being an awful thing.

However you made a very good point, that it would be nice for the children to have a choice.

[MomCat]

"The weekend ended with the me video-taping Charlie zipped up in a giant pillow case sliding down Tommy's stairs. We called it the "Butt Slalom" and he continued to do this for two straight hours."



Don't let your son do this! I did something very similar when I was 12 and fractured my tailbone. The exam to discover it, is very painful.

[BigAl]

Tommy is watching all of you and then reporting back to Santa. He will cancel your Christmas too. Tommy is watching.

[BigAl]

Tommy is watching you like the "Evil Monkey" watches chris griffin on family guy.

[des1969]

My kid occasionally gets in bed with me and she's 13 but I digress....

My take on Laura sleeping with her kids is a) given her living situation right now, they really have no other choice and b) this is her attempt at at "bonding" with her kids. I don't think Laura is a bad mother necessarily, but she's at best an indifferent one and at worst, an extremely careless one. By no means should she be given full custody. The kids need a mother but they also need a positive role model. She is nowhere near that and probably won't be for a LONG time

[GGmami]

Originally Posted by Layla

Lot's of people have "family beds". I don't care how bad a mother she is, to even insinuate something sexual is going on there, it's really just not right. I am a mother. I love my kids. I cuddle them all the time. If daddy's not home, I've got no problem letting them climb up in bed with me and fall asleep. Sure, not all parents do this, but just because you wouldn't doesn't mean it's "innapropriate". Now, if they were all sleeping together nude, that'd be different.

I agree. We love to sleep with the kiddos sometimes. I have more of an issue with the other poor choices she makes for her kids. Somehow all of her decisions are always about her.

[Wabbitsd]

Thanks, pax...that being said, I have a high school senior making plans to fly the nest for college next fall. ohmygosh! I'm always finding myself saying "Wow. this time next year, she won't be here...." but it's what we have been working toward for so long. I'm banking frequent flyer miles now in preparation.

[TJLuv]

Originally Posted by Transplant

here's LBM's diary for today

Laura's Diary - December 3rd, 2007
Monday, December 3, 2007 at 12:42pm

Dear Diary,

My kids are the best. I had such great weekend doing a whole bunch of nothin' with those two. On Friday, I picked them up from school and took them with me to a photo shoot. The shoot was for San Diego Family Magazine and it was at a studio in Sorrento Valley. That was the day that it POURED…and guess who doesn't have an umbrella? Yep, that would be me. So, my perfectly blow-dried hair got all frizzy and stupid, like it always does when it rains. I'm hoping those pictures do not reflect the weird dents in my hair, but oh well.

The woman from the magazine brought a bag full of toys for the kids to play with while I was getting my picture taken. Isn't that sweet? They got to keep 'em too. We played Jenga all weekend and we watched the Care Bears movie and the Goosebumps movie she gave them at least 3 times each.

The next morning, Charlie said the sweetest thing to me. I'm pretty sure he was still asleep when he said it because it was really early and his eyes were closed. He said, "I can't believe you're my Momma."

"Why do you say that?" I said to the sleepy boy.

"Because you're on the radio and you're going to be on the cover of a magazine." Then he turned over and went back to sleep. I love that kid SO MUCH it hurts sometimes. Dangit!

Since we all sleep in the same bed wherever we are together, we go to sleep and wake up together, too. If I just had Charlie, I would be sleepin' in until 9am every weekend. He's the kid who sleeps long and hard. But, I have Evan, and that little ball of energy doesn't like to go to sleep and she doesn't like to sleep in. So, there is no sleepin' in when I have the kids. What I'm trying to say is that I'm a bit tired this morning, so forgive me if I'm not makin' sense.

The weekend ended with the me video-taping Charlie zipped up in a giant pillow case sliding down Tommy's stairs. We called it the "Butt Slalom" and he continued to do this for two straight hours.

Here's a tip for all you parents out there who have young kids and many miles to drive each day: Go to The Dollar Tree store and look in the book and paper aisle for the kids books on tape. Stories like "The Emperor's New Clothes," "Sleeping Beauty," and "The Princess and The Pea" are all available for a buck! Evan loves them because she can read along with the book while she's listening to it. We also found a Christmas Book on tape with a bunch of songs included.

Last night, on the way to meeting Dave for "the hand-off," I was left with a beautiful image: Evan singing "Oh, Christmas Tree" in the backseat. She didn't know I was watching her. I love watching her. In fact, I truly think I know every single curve, freckle, spot, pore and hair on my babies faces. I really do.

See you tomorrow, Diary.

This may not be a popular opinion.. I just think that once Laura moves out of FH's house she will be much better off and easier to like. I'm already seeing her as more of a "mommy" in her more recent diary entries.... I really do hope she's able to come out of this a better mom.. there are no do-overs in that job.

[TJLuv]

Originally Posted by cattychathy

From Tommy's Blog

"You know what question I can’t answer?"


That "no" means "no", even in Guamanian?

hahaha that was hilarious

[Wabbitsd]

TJLuv, I don't think she's becoming more of a Mom, but I do think she is looking forward to having kids to play with. It's kinda wierd, she doesn't "Mom" them, it's like they are her equals in maturity, and she plays along with them. I really think her inner issue is she cannot be alone, and refuses to acknowledge that she is an adult, and needs to be in a parental role rather than a playmate role.

I can totally see her getting up in the morning, goofing off with whomever is up at the time, then about 11 or noon, one of the kids will say, "Mom, I'm hungry, can we go to XXX restaurant?" and off they will go. They will have breakfast, and there will be some intervening event, and when one of them is hungry, it will be "Mom, I'm hungry. Can we go to XXX restaurant?" and off they will go. Nothing planned, no regularity, no schedule for the kids...I imagine it's ok for now, but routines and study habits. I sure don't see that in the big game plan for her. God forbid one of the kids enters into some level of commitment to a sport or say, music or some other activity. They'll never get to a practice or rehearsal on time, or with clean, unstained or rain-soaked clothes.

[TJLuv]

Originally Posted by Layla

Lot's of people have "family beds". I don't care how bad a mother she is, to even insinuate something sexual is going on there, it's really just not right. I am a mother. I love my kids. I cuddle them all the time. If daddy's not home, I've got no problem letting them climb up in bed with me and fall asleep. Sure, not all parents do this, but just because you wouldn't doesn't mean it's "innapropriate". Now, if they were all sleeping together nude, that'd be different.

I agree with you.

I'm a mother of 2 as well and I have a hard time judging other moms as I am sure there are a number of things I've done that would have me nominated for the Laura Cain Mom of the Year award... the obvious things we judge are when people put there children in actual harms way (leaving them somewhere, doing drugs, etc.. etc... )however... sleeping in the bed together or even naked tickling... you know, as long as it doesn't cross the line... let's not all get too holier than thou.

Laura's diary entries are all about her kids now.. where before they were about what she had to buy and where she was going out... to me that's a big change inthe right direction

[TJLuv]

Originally Posted by Wabbitsd

TJLuv, I don't think she's becoming more of a Mom, but I do think she is looking forward to having kids to play with. It's kinda wierd, she doesn't "Mom" them, it's like they are her equals in maturity, and she plays along with them. I really think her inner issue is she cannot be alone, and refuses to acknowledge that she is an adult, and needs to be in a parental role rather than a playmate role.

I can totally see her getting up in the morning, goofing off with whomever is up at the time, then about 11 or noon, one of the kids will say, "Mom, I'm hungry, can we go to XXX restaurant?" and off they will go. They will have breakfast, and there will be some intervening event, and when one of them is hungry, it will be "Mom, I'm hungry. Can we go to XXX restaurant?" and off they will go. Nothing planned, no regularity, no schedule for the kids...I imagine it's ok for now, but routines and study habits. I sure don't see that in the big game plan for her. God forbid one of the kids enters into some level of commitment to a sport or say, music or some other activity. They'll never get to a practice or rehearsal on time, or with clean, unstained or rain-soaked clothes.

That's a good point Wabbit (so ackward to call an adult that LOL)... She surely hasn't shown any moments of parenting her children in her diary. I just get the impression that she is doing what many divorced parents do... try to be the fun parent so the kids will want to hang out with you... But the most important piece of parenting is... you have to love your children and I believe she does. She is immature and maybe not very bright... but she loves her children and I think she does want what is best for them...

sheesh I'm starting to sound like I like the woman LOL Ya'll will kick me off the board for that!

[TJLuv]

Originally Posted by Wabbitsd

Thanks, pax...that being said, I have a high school senior making plans to fly the nest for college next fall. ohmygosh! I'm always finding myself saying "Wow. this time next year, she won't be here...." but it's what we have been working toward for so long. I'm banking frequent flyer miles now in preparation.

Great attitude about it! I know our job as parents is to prepare our little ones for an independent life... but dang, I miss my little boy when he goes to bed at night. LOL

[GirlfromOR]

Tuesday December 4, 2007 2:25am: I went to bed shortly after the Ravens choked against the Patriots. I can't believe they couldn't end the game and win. You watched it and just knew somehow or something was going to happen for the Pats to win. Even when it was 4th down a few times at the end, you just knew something was going to happen.

The 1972 Dolphins in my opinon is the best team ever. I was 7-8 years old that season and watched them all the time. I knew everyone on that team and I used to pretend to be Mercury Morris the RB. I was #22 just like him. Back then it was all about street football with other kids and we used to pretend to be each person on that team. I remember names like Larry Little, Jim Kiick, Manny Fernandez, Paul Warfield, the list goes on. That was the year when Garo Yeprimeam #1 of the Dolphins flubbed the field goal in the Superbowl and ran right and tried to pass and instantly became a forever guest on a blooper highlight reel.

I met the 1973 Dolphins! I was 8 years old and we were playing a Pop Warner game immediately after the Chargers played the Dolphins at the stadium. The stadium back then was just called THE STADIUM. Not the Murph, Not the Q, but THE STADIUM. At the end of the game, we sat on the Dolphin side of the field and then lined up to get ready to play as we lined up we were suppose to just look straight ahead and just stay focused on the helmet in front of you, but for 30 little boys from Chula Vista, it would be impossible, because almost every single Dolphin came up to us and gave us 5. High Five's weren't invented yet. They slapped us 5 and the really nice ones gave us 10. It was like a dream. All of them were smiling at us. It was a Charger game, but we lucked out and had the immortal Dolphins right there.

Then we started to play and not that I'm bragging or anything like that, but on the 2nd play of the game, I went 73 yards for a touchdown right in front of Don Shula. The crowd was leaving, but I do remember the roar from the people as they were leaving their seats. When the game was over, we beat 30 other kids from Kearny 40-0 and I scored 3 touchdowns that day.

So, when people talk about the 72 Dolphins or the 85 Bears or the 07 Pats, I still root for those Dolphins in 1972 for being the best team ever and I hope that there record of going 17-0 (back then it was a 14 game schedule) never gets duplicated.

Give me 5!

[GirlfromOR]

My family was very involved in Pop Warner and it has always been an organization where individual score was not kept. They did not tally individual yards, touch downs or defensive moves. They do not keep individual records, so what he mentioned about one of his druggie brothers holding a pop warner record is a load of crap. If I remember correctly, in his age group, they only played on 70 or 80 yard fields. I'm not sure if that is the case still or not, but it definitely was about 10 years ago.

[SDGirl87]

All I can say to Tubby's blog this morning??

WHATEVER. Here, I'll give you 5. Do you want them across the face or upside the head? (compassion dictates that I give him the choice)