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Old 12-21-2007, 10:28 AM   #16951
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Charity is fine. Gluttony is not. They could've changes numerous families' lives, rather than just one. They don't know the family's story either - not the real story. What is someone is a drug addict and will sell all of the stuff. Probably not, but you never know. Who's going to pay for their storage unit that they'll need now!!!! It just shows that a gluttonous mind (Tummy) was behind it all.

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Old 12-21-2007, 10:28 AM   #16952
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One last thing I'll say is, no one in Tommy's family is afraid of him. I've been around for six months (not years, I know) and can promise you that.
I just keep thinking about this weird comment; so if anyone WERE afraid do you think they'd feel comfortable telling a new girlfriend without fearing FH's retaliation? And is that a measure for a future husband and stepfather to your children? "Well, no one in his family is afraid of him". (another item for the eHarmony checklist?)
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For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..
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Charity is fine. Gluttony is not. They could've changes numerous families' lives, rather than just one. They don't know the family's story either - not the real story. What is someone is a drug addict and will sell all of the stuff. Probably not, but you never know. Who's going to pay for their storage unit that they'll need now!!!! It just shows that a gluttonous mind (Tummy) was behind it all.
I had a thought this morning on that I forgot to mention. TAXES. Who pays the TAXES on all of this, especially that new car??
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"...obviously. I didn't respond to very hurtful things that were posted about me and my innocent children (even as inaccurate as they were.) There is only one person on here bthat I'm disturbed by, other than Tommy's ex-wife, who is bitter like many divorced people are. I can accept her anger, even if it is all about money (how ironic, huh?)"

So which of our invisible friends is she pissy with? The one that was having unpleasant interactions with FH and had to involve counsel for advice? hmmm One would think that would give a person reason to pause...

I'll bet it's Boris! Sorry Boris, but sometimes your posts are *disturbing*. ha ha!
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For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..

I have two little intials for you all: BS!!

This is not sincere - if she were sincere, she would have said this stuff months ago, instead of trying to create some "The Hills" scripted sign-off. Too much "Gossip Girl." Dave did not get her into rehab - that was her doing. No one is to blame but Little Miss Big Butted Loser herself. She does not have a computer because she chooses not to have one. She has the cash to buy one. Trying to make us feel sorry for her again. The entire entry is a ploy to get sympathy. And guess what - if she did have a computer, there's no way she write over vacation. She's as lazy as she is an addict. Her words do not coincide with her actions, and therefore, I disregard the garbage that her mouth creates.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:40 AM   #16958
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For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..
Must admit, I'm impressed. She takes responsibility and actually thanks DC (she referred to him as Davecain) for getting her the help she needed! Okay. Good for her. Hope she can hold on to this and take it with her on her walk into the New Year. Peace.
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:42 AM   #16959
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Must admit, I'm impressed. She takes responsibility and actually thanks DC (she referred to him as Davecain) for getting her the help she needed! Okay. Good for her. Hope she can hold on to this and take it with her on her walk into the New Year. Peace.

You must be reading the limited brail edition....
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:44 AM   #16960
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For once...I think Laura's diary entry has a measure of sincerity and honesty...


Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..

You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:45 AM   #16961
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Layla: I gotta say that I loved reading all your posts from last night and this morning...you have great insight and put forth a lot of wonderful observations... I admire the fact that you really do "say what you mean, and mean what you say"...Happiest of holidays to you and yours
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:49 AM   #16962
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You must be reading the limited brail edition....
Sorry, I do wanna give her the benefit of the doubt; mostly I want those kids to have the mom they deserve; and maybe even the family they were created in. Maybe it is just showgram drivel, but I don't think she's like Tummy in that respect; I think she puts out what spills from her non-filtered, impulsive head usually. Maybe I'm just sentimental for the holidays. But I see her as being more repairable than FH by far. She's truly attached to her kids. FH is attached to FH (and the nearest drive-thru window).
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Old 12-21-2007, 10:52 AM   #16963
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You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....

If Laura did it because Mooch told her to, it would not be sincere. Laura must be reading that new book "Smoke, Blame, Deny"
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You know last night I told Moochie Laura should keep her life well not so public because then we couldn't pick a part her bad parenting maybe Mooch told her something because this does sound like a very sincere and heartfelt entry. This is the kind of entry where all we can do is hope the best for her and be thankful that maybe she is starting to see the big picture and learn that life isn't all about her...it sounds very mature...but with Laura for ever one mature post there are 2 or 3 that make her come across in a bad aspect...maybe she will use her journal in 2008 as a healing tool, to help her get through this new chapter in her life...to be real and not be real sometimes and other times sound like an immature parent...maybe she will take 2008 to grow up and be a mature responsible adult, and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life....

There's only one thing I see wrong with this entry Sheens. I don't think she should find a new man. I think along the same lines as Dr. Laura. If your marriage failed. Focus on being a mom. Raise them until their 18. Make them your entire life. When they are grown, go out and find a new mate and live it up.
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"and maybe in 2008 she will meet someone new and learn to wish Dave Cain well in life...."
Gosh I hope she just learns to live well with herself and raise her kids with whatever custody she has and does not bring in other men into their lives. Give herself and her children time; lots of it.
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Laura's Diary - December 21st, 2007
Friday, December 21, 2007 at 12:11pm

Dear Diary,

This is my last entry of the year. I would write during vacation, but I don't have a computer, so this is it.

What can I say about this year? It's been huge. It's been devastating and beautiful. It's been shocking and serene. It's been scary and joyful. My life has completely changed and I have finally accepted it. It's been hard, but I just have faith that as long as I keep doing the right thing, good things will happen.

Last year at this time I was skinny and tired and I looked bad. I didn't realize how bad I looked, but that's what people tell me. I had some elements in my life, that almost ruined my life. I've lost a lot because of the bad choices I made, but I have gained so much because of them. Does that make any sense at all? I got a little sad last night when I remembered the decorations I hung on the tree last year. I had these ceramic ornaments made with our family Christmas pictures throughout the years printed on them. I put them away so carefully because I thought I'd be putting them on our tree for years and years and years

This year, I have not one piece of furniture in my rented house, but I am so calm and so sure that I'm going to have a great Christmas with my kids. Last night, we ate macaroni and cheese in our 99 cent bowls on the floor of my kitchen and it was fun. Charlie hooked up my Ipod to the docking station and blasted "Rollover DJ" by JETT! He asked me to help him make a guitar out of cardboard so he could jam with the music. So, there was Charlie, rockin' out with a cardboard guitar. He was literally bouncing off the walls.

I think that's the one major thing I gained this year, aside from my sobriety, a deeper relationship with my babies. I love talking to those little beings, I love playing with them, I love every inch of their sweet bodies. I look forward to picking them up from school and hearing about their day. These things sound so obvious…things that a mom should love…but, when you're not all there, those things slip away.

Since December of last year, I've lived in three different cities with eight different people. I've gone from having everything, to having pretty much nothing. I have no house, no husband and no money, but I have a greater sense of self, more than I ever have in my entire life. I know who I am again.

Through all the shock and all the pain, I do have to thank Davecain for getting me into rehab, therefore, to this place I'm at right now. I had no idea that the hard part was to come AFTER rehab, but, still, I thank him. I hope that soon I'll be able to wish him nothing but happiness and peace in his life. I'm almost there.

I'm going to use the time off to move and get settled into my new life. I'm also going to visit my Momma and my sis and her family.

I know 2008 will be good, great, in fact. Hopefully the tough times are winding down.

I am so grateful for my sobriety, my children, my family, my friends and my job. I am so very lucky and I never ever forget that.

See you next year, Diary..





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Sheesh. I take one night to go to dinner with my friends, and look what you folks get your beehinders into this time. And all without me.

Honest to God. Moochie, or whomever you be. Put a cork in it. You and your little dog, too.

Moochie, baby. So much so much....So are you trying to say that your kids are with you full time, then? Crock alert. Oh, and nice threat to Conceptis. you are one class chick. If you are a chick. I'm not at all convinced you are anything but a figment of an anonymous angry soul, one we have heard from before.

And if you believe LBM is a sweet person, then there is something tragically wrong with your perception of reality. If you think Charlie is not damaged goods, you are sadly mistaken. He and his poor sister are going through the same cycles as many children of drunken and destroyed households...IF Laura is such a sweetie....who the heck was it who raged against the poor kid for not enabling her to stay at that JingleBall Concert long enough for her to have ALL THE FUN to which she was ENTITLED! Must have been one of her nannies, right?

So, I'll address this anonymous persona you wish to push here....Your tale of woe about your ex just caps my impression of you...you thought you were going to remarry, after divorcing the same guy....buying a house, then split again. My goodness, aren't we into snap judgements without considering the effect on the kids! Remember them? Those innocent ones you think it is cool to pretend you give a rats ass about. And then you've had relationships, we can call them, with some other famous personalities...hm...while they were still married. right? Great. No wonder you don't get the concept of adultery, cheating, lying and abuse that FH is giving you. I don't know jack about any of your kids. I hope I don't get to know too much, because I'm sure they are probably used to this kind of stuff from you.

All joking aside, have you gotten any professional counseling to determine why you have to jump in and out of these kinds of relationships like this? Where you are merely an object to be traded out? If you were truly a concerned parent, you wouldn't let yourself be manipulated into a quick engagement...and YET ANOTHER HOME PURCHASE and snap wedding...

You are condemned to repeat your same patterns til you find out what ails the soul inside you. And if you have young girl children, you are setting them up for a long life of misery with the lessons they are learning from you. But hey, if you have all boys, relax! They will just continue the tradition of regarding women as merely objects to be traded up and out at their convenience, or when they no longer project the image they feel they are entitled to.

Let me ask you--when did you come to view YOURSELF as a responsible parent? Was it before you started having FH come spend the night at your house with your kids there before you even knew him 6 months?? Maybe while you were dating B-list San Diego celebrities...Of course, since FH and the others are all BIG DEALS, it's ok to toss another new man into the mix. No problem. Mama gets what Mama wants, no?

Raising kids is not an accidental thing. In fact, surprise pregnancies are ok when you are, what--18? When you are nearing 40, you ought to have your ducks in a row and know that if you have a history of bad choices in men, you don't continue to jump in and out of relationships while your children are young. You bite the bullet, go into "retirement" and focus on their needs, not your dating schedule.

Dahling, I don't give a rat's patoot about your wrinkles, and if that floats your boat thinking people are impressed with your physical appearance, well, I hope you get to hang out with Dennis Conner--or maybe an important Retired Admiral soon. (Big Boat people, big boat people, doncha know.) I think your little blog about yourself on your myspace page tells more about you than you realize...you want to travel with your kids...cute little accessories to your life that they are. You want a luxury car...you want you want you want...You think LBM is sweet because she is a lot like you...self-focused, vain and trite.

So go one, now that you know what I think, tell me what you think about what I think of you. And don't break a nail.
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Probably the best gift she can give her children is to move into the new place and get them out of FH's flophouse. I mean that has got to be the weirdest for all those kids; coming and going from one set of parents to the next (there are like 6 sets involved at least); no one's married; FH is over at Moochie's sometimes; Moochie's staying at his place sometimes; LBM is living upstairs. What kind of message/stability does that provide? Are there any family meals? What does homework time look like? I can't imagine any semblance of "normal" family living/routine in that kind of environment.

She'll do best to get her little ones out to her own place, sparce as it may be, and set up a place they can feel is their home and not an amusement center.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:01 AM   #16969
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I was a little surprised by LBM's latest diary entry. It actually sounds decent and halfway sincere. We all know she probably won't ever be Mother of the Year but any change for the better is a very good thing seeing how low she's been. I'm into the Christmas spirit right now since today is Christmas Luncheon/get off early day at work so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and actually wish dear ole LBM a Merry Christmas and a better New Year!
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:01 AM   #16970
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I appreciate that she's taking some responsiblity for losing everything (finally!). But WHY does she say she has no money? I KNOW this has been asked over and over on this board, but I just can't help but still wonder why she's "poor?"

How long did she live with Tommy? Did she pay rent? NO. Did she continue to pay her share of the SDSU mortgage with Dave? I mean, tht's the only thing I can think of. She kept getting paid in re-hab, we know that much. She continues to receive a fat check to this day, where is the money going towards now?

I'd love for our newest member to step in here and perhaps clarify why Laura is so desperately out of money, that she'd let her children sleep on the floor and eat mac and cheese out of cheap bowls that may or may not test positive for lead.
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Old 12-21-2007, 11:07 AM   #16971
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Damn Wabbitsd! I'm wiped out!
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