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Old 01-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #17701
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I understand your points jake. Haven't put a lot of thought into what will happen when I die, but don't really think I want anything. Then again, these things seem to be for the people that are here, and sadly at times, these are the only times that they gather. And really, you only have so much control over what people do while you are alive, and you don't gain much more when you are dead.

Here ye, Here ye,....

I want people to hold a celebration of who I am while ALIVE!!!

Bring stories of my "wins" AND my "losses."

Tell me how to be better while LIVING -- rather than pretending I was better, now that I am DEAD!

The worst piece of sh*t on the planet dies...and people say, "He had good intentions!"

Long-term memory diffuses fact.

It's funny, every baby is the "greatest baby around." Okay, so where do all the as*h*les come from?

Every dead adult was " a great person." Okay, so where did all the as*h*les come from?!?!?!
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:48 PM   #17702
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And Wonk hasn't been checking on us since Sunday. C'mon back, Wonk, I miss your contribs!

I'm glad he is at least checking in. He hasn't posted since November. Come back out of lurkdom, Wonk!

If you don't log in, does GA still record you as having visited? I only log in if I'm posting, but I read everyday.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:49 PM   #17703
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I just figured out how to check the member list. << rubbing knuckles on chest, proud of accomplishment >>

But what is Carl Jr's member name?
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:49 PM   #17704
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How do you check the member list? I'd give it the old college try, but I'm a little 'puter 'tarded.

It's easy! Look up above - there's a toolbar-type thing that lists: User CP, FAQ, Member List, Calendar.....

Click on Member List and then you'll see a bar with all the alphabet. You can either search by the first letter of the screen name or you can go over to the far right and there is an option called "Search Member" (right under all the page numbers available).

If you click on "Search Member" you can enter a screen name and search from there.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:51 PM   #17705
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I just figured out how to check the member list. << rubbing knuckles on chest, proud of accomplishment >>

But what is Carl Jr's member name?

Congratulations!

And Carl's screen name is SoCalAttorney....
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:54 PM   #17706
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Congratulations!

And Carl's screen name is SoCalAttorney....

Or, as I would nick name him : SoakAllAttorney
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:54 PM   #17707
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Long-term memory diffuses fact.

It's funny, every baby is the "greatest baby around." Okay, so where do all the as*h*les come from?

Every dead adult was " a great person." Okay, so where did all the as*h*les come from?!?!?!

I agree, Jake. My other question is, why is it that every time some juvenile delinquent kills people, everyone says "Oh my goodness, I can't believe s/he would do this, they've never been in trouble before, blah blah blah."

Yeah RIGHT. I taught eighth grade, and trust me, you can tell which kids will be starring on Cops in a few years.
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Old 01-03-2008, 09:58 PM   #17708
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:10 PM   #17709
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Eeeeuuuuuwww, Trixie, my burning eyeballs! Nooo!!

Exploitation of the elderly is never kind. Just post the link, for goodness' sakes.
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:11 PM   #17710
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Eek

Is it me?

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STILL waiting for "THE" shy person. Though I must admit, I'm grinning from all of the many of you who have timidly owned up to it in PM...lol.

There is but ONE person at this juncture from whom I have not heard, but who made the promise to attend a January function, if it fit into their schedule.

I shall continue to wait, breathless. Come out come out wherever you are...

If you THINK it's you, it could be....
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:13 PM   #17711
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My new best friend Carl is probably trying to collect ISP numbers. When construction in the area slows down, and god knows, by the skin of his teeth, Mr. "I'm an attorney, if you are possibly looking for an in-house attorney, i can send my resume with my Dad as my primary character witness" could use a side line to bring in some chump change. FH probably didn't even comp him Jingle Ball tix. Times are tough in this construction office/wish I were a big time attorney office in Santee.

Carl...you never call, you only pm, you never post, you never e-mail, you never serve writs or deliver lawyerly diatribes. I'm starting to think our romance is going sour.

I was just wondering...we have a shy one amongst us?
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:14 PM   #17712
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I agree, Jake. My other question is, why is it that every time some juvenile delinquent kills people, everyone says "Oh my goodness, I can't believe s/he would do this, they've never been in trouble before, blah blah blah."

Yeah RIGHT. I taught eighth grade, and trust me, you can tell which kids will be starring on Cops in a few years.

I work with educators. I redesign curriculum, write textbooks, and test learning strategies. I teach 12 to 15 year-olds on a daily basis.

So many of these kids are willing to do anything to "be smart."

I've a PH. D in Instructional Design and have done this work for more than a decade in Compton, Inglewood, and South-Central ....but all I "know" is worthless against a gang-bang family that is convinced, "our kids need to support the family."

There are so many kids out there that "represent" the family's "code," it becomes impossible to educate them. One can only hope to remove them from the influence of their ignorant parents.

"STUPID lasts forever."

I just want to save a few, special, little ones that think they can "do it." I just want to let these children know, they are not defined by their parents.....they are afforded the opportunity to go beyond their parents.

Maybe I should have done a radio-gig that pays $2 million a year......Maybe I'm a loser and these guys are "STARS!"

No.....I don't think so........I'd take my life over their "life" any day....

Happy New Year my friends!
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:18 PM   #17713
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:40 PM   #17714
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I HATE "time-out." Do we really want to teach our kids that being "alone" in a quiet state is "punishment?"

I want my kid to cherish being alone and contemplating life.

I want my kid to treasure time with herself...void of interruption.

I want my kid to value solitude.

So, in an effort to do the "modern" parenting game,....I'll "punish" my kid by making her spend time "alone," "in silence."

WRONG!!!!

Time alone is a gift we give to our children. It teaches more than words teach.

To make time alone a "punishment," is a weak form of parenting.

I HATE TIME-OUTS!!!
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:41 PM   #17715
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I've a PH. D in Instructional Design and have done this work for more than a decade in Compton, Inglewood, and South-Central ....
No.....I don't think so........I'd take my life over their "life" any day....

Happy New Year my friends!

Jake, I just knew you were a doctor (now, all you ladies on the board, settle down! I don't mean that kind of "doctor" ). You know what's classy -- that you've been dating all us ladies for months and didn't brag about your educational status. That's why we luvs us some Dr. Jake.

When I die, I want a big old Irish wake with Irish dancing and plenty of whiskey. It's not so that people will talk about how great I was (I already know how great I am it's to keep my kids and relatives busy for a few days while they get over the shock and ease themselves into the idea that I'm gone. Whenever I've lost loved ones, even those who I knew had very little time left, there was a sense of shock and finality when they did pass. Now, it would be sad indeed if I didn't get plenty of Irish dancing and whiskey drinking in with my family before I fly the coop, but when I do fly away I say, "Party on Wayne! Party on Garth!"
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Old 01-03-2008, 10:55 PM   #17716
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I HATE "time-out." Do we really want to teach our kids that being "alone" in a quiet state is "punishment?"

I want my kid to cherish being alone and contemplating life.

I want my kid to treasure time with herself...void of interruption.

I want my kid to value solitude.

So, in an effort to do the "modern" parenting game,....I'll "punish" my kid by making her spend time "alone," "in silence."

WRONG!!!!

Time alone is a gift we give to our children. It teaches more than words teach.

To make time alone a "punishment," is a weak form of parenting.

I HATE TIME-OUTS!!!
Jake, at the risk of falling out of like with you, please DO TELL what "punishment" you use?

We don't Punish. We discipline.

A short time out is used when a child in our home is "out of control". They are not locked away in a room. They are told to sit down, in the family room, quietly for a few minutes until they are ready to behave. That is what *I* meant by time out, when I first through out the "like rehab for kids" line. Our home is not a prison, there is no solitary confinement.
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:03 PM   #17717
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I thing there are times for "Time out..." if you or your kid are the kind who goes up and over the top in anger saying stuff or going for the gold ring in arguments...sending them out of your sight for a period of time to cool down is not a bad idea.
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Old 01-03-2008, 11:18 PM   #17718
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When I die, I want a big old Irish wake with Irish dancing and plenty of whiskey. It's not so that people will talk about how great I was (I already know how great I am it's to keep my kids and relatives busy for a few days while they get over the shock and ease themselves into the idea that I'm gone. Whenever I've lost loved ones, even those who I knew had very little time left, there was a sense of shock and finality when they did pass. Now, it would be sad indeed if I didn't get plenty of Irish dancing and whiskey drinking in with my family before I fly the coop, but when I do fly away I say, "Party on Wayne! Party on Garth!"

I couldn't agree more. There is nothing like an old Irish wake. The only bad part is the hangover that some get after the fact! I also agree that it gives your loved ones something to do during those inital days. Not that they won't have weeks, months, and years full of loss but there is something soothing about it. I have also found that it is a time that you hear stories that you have not heard in a long time or share something about that person that maybe some people did not know. When my grandmother passed, she had requested that there be no funeral etc... That was also the plan for my grandfather. Soon after she died, he changed his mind. He felt it was important that the family come together to "celebrate" their life. When he passed, we honored both. There was finally some sense of closure for her and one heck of an Irish wake for the both of them.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:38 AM   #17719
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Jake, at the risk of falling out of like with you, please DO TELL what "punishment" you use?

We don't Punish. We discipline.

A short time out is used when a child in our home is "out of control". They are not locked away in a room. They are told to sit down, in the family room, quietly for a few minutes until they are ready to behave. That is what *I* meant by time out, when I first through out the "like rehab for kids" line. Our home is not a prison, there is no solitary confinement.

Please! I would never presume to tell any of you your parenting is "wrong."

My point is, too many parents "react" to behavior and fail to "predict" behavior.

"Time-out" seems to be a contemporary "reaction" to a child's behavior. The child talks back, or cries and has a tantrum.....as if we are shocked by this?

A child wants one thing: His/her way.

Tell me how sitting alone in a chair teaches a child to relinquish this? "You sit there alone Johnny, until you figure out what mommy wants from you!" Johnny will NOT figure it out.

What "punishment" do I use?

I sit WITH my child and say, "We're going to sit here together, until you can calm down. After you calm down, we're going to figure out what to do, to not be upset. And we're going to talk about daddy's anger about your actions"

"Punishment" (also known as discipline), is all about changing behavior -- not penalizing behavior.

A 4-year-old, requires a teacher of new behavior -- not a punisher of past behavior. Too often we treat our kids as if they are adults that lack skills -- rather than humans without skills.
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Old 01-04-2008, 01:56 AM   #17720
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I'm feeling as if I've offended many good parents. Please allow me to explain in greater detail.

When I was young, my parents would shout, "Go to your room!"

My room was not the site of punishment -- it was a place to avoid further punishment.

I think it is vital that children be taught, one level of punishment is avoidance of further punishment. My "room" was a sanctuary of comfort and peace. My parents would send me there whenever they were too upset to deal with me.

I learned, my room was a place of security -- a place where I could be "me" void of punishment. When things calmed down, I would be called out of my room for a "talk."

The "talk" was, or included the subsequent punishment.

I have a passion toward believing children behave in a selfish manner because that's what serves them best. Our job, as parents and adults, is to teach them, selfishness is not wrong -- it is limiting. It prevents the joy of others. It prevents us from experiencing the joy of others. And, it makes us believe we are better than others.

Selfishness is not a "punishable" behavior -- it is a "correctable" behavior. Does your "time-out" teach this? If so, I stand corrected.
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Old 01-04-2008, 06:42 AM   #17721
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I have a passion toward believing children behave in a selfish manner because that's what serves them best. Our job, as parents and adults, is to teach them, selfishness is not wrong -- it is limiting. It prevents the joy of others. It prevents us from experiencing the joy of others. And, it makes us believe we are better than others.

Selfishness is not a "punishable" behavior -- it is a "correctable" behavior. Does your "time-out" teach this? If so, I stand corrected.

WOW!!!!!!!! to you, Jake!!
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Old 01-04-2008, 07:36 AM   #17722
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Hmmm. You have some good points, Jake. I've always felt the ten minutes to half an hour that my daughter spends in her room lets both of us NOT say stuff we don't want to say out loud to each other. And you haven't offended me, in the least. It's a different way of doing things, and you have a great point.

I can only congratulate myself in that I DON'T do what my parents did...My Dad would "Spank" us with a three foot long, two foot wide board for infractions. And if one of us (4 girls) did something and didn't own up to it, we ALL got spanked until the guilty party admitted to it.

The "Selfishness" thing is something I've always figured was normal, too. but I consider myself Ayn Randian in a lot of ways, and that the selfishness in my daughter would take a turnaround as she matured and saw that her "selfishness" or her win situation could be better served by making "Win" situations for those around her.

But I tend not to be able to take the straight line when there's a meandering path, even in this.

Practically speaking, I'm now kinda miffed at you, Jake. Why didn't you get out here and tell me all this about ten years ago? You stinkpot. (he he)
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:02 AM   #17723
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Jake, I'll repeat my previous offer. Will you marry me?
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Old 01-04-2008, 08:06 AM   #17724
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Thus far "THE ONE" has not come forward...but I'm loving this guessing game...lol. I'm getting quite a few PMs from all sorts of folks wondering if it's them, and promising to join us! By the way, for planning purposes, we are looking at early afternoon on that Saturday. That may help some of you decide if it will fit in your schedules! Kids, pets, spouses, neighbors are welcome. By the way, if you'd like to come to the get together but you'd rather us not know your DC identity, you can just use your real name, or a made up name. (Sally Lou instead of JJHater4Life) I'll have name tags available and you can put whatever you want. That way, anyone who is concerned about THEM finding out who WE are may have a bit more peace of mind. It may also protect you from us if you don't want us to know that "you" were there!

"THE ONE" knows who they are and I can actually visually see the little cat/mouse game going on. It's...a smile.

No, it's not Boris, but now that you mention it, WHERE has he been?? YOOOOO HOOOOOO Boris?????????

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