08-04-2003, 09:41 AM
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riaa subpeonas....
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http://www.techtv.com/news/culture/s...4600%2C00.html "Here's a list of which ISPs and other service providers have received subpoenas from the RIAA, and how many subpoenas each provider has received. Numbers come from a review of the first 257 RIAA subpoenas put online (of a total of at least 911 filed so far) by the US District Court in Washington, DC. Comcast Cable Communications (87) SBC (60) Time Warner Cable (32) Charter Cable (22) Verizon Internet Services (21) RCN (19) Adelphia Communications (3) Bentley College (Boston) (3) Boston College (3) EarthLink (2) DePaul University (Chicago), Loyola University (Chicago), MIT, Northeastern University (Boston), Pacific Bell Internet (1 each)" hmm dont see cox hsi on there  guess im safe for now
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08-04-2003, 10:32 AM
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How can AOL NOT be on that list?
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08-04-2003, 10:33 AM
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far too slow for anyone to do enough illegal activity to piss off the riaa 
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08-04-2003, 10:41 AM
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lol! maybe aol didnt need to be subpeonaed...
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08-04-2003, 11:03 AM
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Or maybe AOL is part of AOL Time Warner... don't they own a recording company also?
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08-04-2003, 02:26 PM
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that's part of the consipracy theory. AOL didn't get served at all because they are actually part of the music industry.  |
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08-04-2003, 02:27 PM
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08-04-2003, 02:52 PM
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supposedly for the riaa to serve every file sharer with lawsuits at the current rate of 75 per day it would take 2001.69 years... hmm lol
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08-07-2003, 05:47 PM
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****, im scared as hell. im using rcn ;(
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08-07-2003, 07:04 PM
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Just after this RIAA thing hit the news, I came home one day to find my teenage daughter downloading on Morpheus (that she had just installed). I went ballistic (and immediately uninstalled Morpheus and all spyware on the system).
This is one reason that the kids can never boot into my Xp partition.
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08-07-2003, 07:09 PM
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It's all good as long as you disable sharing of your files and become a leacher....they can't do anything for takin the music, just sharing it |
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08-07-2003, 07:13 PM
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of course if your totally opposed to file sharing it doesn't matter, but that's besides the point  |
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08-07-2003, 08:53 PM
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well who is totally opposed to file sharing that isnt in metallica and frequents these fourms..lol
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08-07-2003, 09:24 PM
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actually I know quite a few people, that are anti-file sharing. |
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08-07-2003, 09:52 PM
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nija i was just kidding... i am opposed to sharing certain types of files..but others...i am more lenient on
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08-08-2003, 02:01 AM
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good, im so lucky. i just checked my ip at http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/riaasubpoenas/ and no match
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08-08-2003, 07:51 AM
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I know. I was just saying, I actually know people that are opposed to file-sharing as it's currently known. I don't understand 'um.. |
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08-08-2003, 11:12 AM
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bittorrent still safe you think?
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08-08-2003, 11:24 AM
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bt with peergaurdian running should be fine..but there hasnt been much i feel like dling off there latly
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08-08-2003, 11:29 AM
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yeah if you're running BT be sure to have Peer Guardian and the most up to date filtered IP list loaded
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08-08-2003, 06:39 PM
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08-08-2003, 09:41 PM
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yes but if you turn sharing off it won't let anyone take any of them |
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08-09-2003, 06:11 AM
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and then when everyone turns sharing off there will be no real files and the p2p logic has gone to poo. |
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08-12-2003, 02:25 AM
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From what I've read on the KaZaA Lite boards, they might be going after people downloading in addition to those who are sharing now...so if this is the case, no one who uses KaZaA is safe...
I'm not scared about this at all since I rarely have any files in my Shared folder and I don't download much at all anymore because I pretty much have everything I'd ever want...however I still don't know what to think about any of it either (other than hey, this really sucks). |
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08-12-2003, 02:46 AM
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as long as you're downloading music, they can't possibly come after you for downloading because then all you have to do is show them you own a copy of the cd and you're home free. |
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08-12-2003, 11:02 PM
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True, all true, however - obviously the gestapo at the RIAA offices don't care. Their arguments are full of holes the size of asteroids (which I've been saying to everyone I know ever since this subpeona crap started) but of course they'll cry wolf to anyone who listens. The only saving grace in all of this is that recently a DC court threw out a ton of their subpeonas saying that they need to provide more proof, not generalize so much, and there's some other stuff they cited but regardless - the important thing is that the legal system is finding severe faults in what the RIAA is doing, and that's great because it lets THEM know that they're wrong for all of this. I have no shame in saying "hey, I download music and I know it's illegal" however buying cd's now is close enough to ridiculous that it's a bad<>bad situation because I myself (and many other people across the world) are sick of paying $15 for a cd with one track worth listening to. My point is ~ if there is ever a way where I can download mp3s and pay the artist directly and completely bypass the RIAA - I'd do it in a heartbeat. Charge .50 cents a song, I'll purchase a whole album for $5.00 and give the band the money they deserve. My whole thing before all this was if I downloaded something and I liked it - I'd buy it. I don't do that no more and I never will again unless the RIAA is disbarred/broken up/whatever ...I will never put another cent towards those jerkoffs. |
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08-14-2003, 11:51 AM
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I have a question, what exactly does RIAA do for the artists that are signed to them?
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08-14-2003, 12:11 PM
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Chief of Naval Operations
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protects their IP rights. take a majority of their money.
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08-14-2003, 12:14 PM
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Well they've been keeping records since last September so I don't think it matters if you stopped sharing or downloading since they submitted their subpeonas. You're on the list or may be on the list, just not a worse offender.
I do wonder what happened to my check I was supposed to receive from them for overcharging me CDs? Did that just go to some charity or something? It's hard not to download and not think it's ubiquitous and legal. Look at the things you can buy to help you download and burn mp3s on CD. We have CD-RWs for cheap and they are advertised blatantly by DELL, Gateway and any other major retailer through print ads and tv ads. No where have I seen a message that says Oh BTW you should only transfer mp3 of songs you own. I don't think it's even implied b/c they say you can download them off the net but they don't really say what legal venue to do so. We get hammered with ads for even devices like the iPOD and RIO etc to store our mp3's on them. We got DVD's and CD players that blatantly say they are mp3 compatible. So if downloading mp3s are so illegal why are so many companies pushing consumers to buy devices that will help download, store and play these mp3s. Yeah I'm playing devil advocate I think but if I were an alien and I see all these ads and consumer products, why would I think downloading mp3 are illegal when there are so many software and hardware products that are willing to take my money. Anyways that's my two cents and it's based on a conversation I had with a little kid who didn't realize it was illegal and wanted to know the logic behind it all and more or less gave me the above arguement with a little more of my spin on it.
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08-14-2003, 03:25 PM
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You know what's funny...and I forgot to mention this as well...is that the RIAA gets a percentage of the tax charged on all cdr drives and blank cdr media (or so I've been told), so they STILL make money even if album sales go down, because the alternative obviously is home cd burning (which I'd say nearly every computer owner nowadays has a cd burner and I'd almost bet that 3/4 of music downloaders use broadband which is now being taxed as well) and the RIAA has their stakes in that as well. What a bunch of greedy frickin' a-holes  |
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