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Old 08-07-2004, 09:14 AM   #1
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Windows XP Service Pack 2

When is WIndows XP service pack 2 ready for download???
I heard is Released to Manufacturing but I couldnt get a copy...
The MS website is gonna get pounded when its gets released for downloading...
Does anyone know any site where it is ready for download?? Its about 265mb
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Old 08-09-2004, 05:10 AM   #2
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Should be publically available tomorrow (Aug 10th)

http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040806-4077.html


Looks like the Beta as well as MSDN download sites have it posted already - full .iso of the update is 475MB! Downloading it now....

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Old 08-09-2004, 02:55 PM   #3
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so there are 2 versions: 1 for single computer only, and 1 for multiple computers on a network.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...20124121120120

the single-use version wont be out til tomorrow. but the SP2 version for IT and developers IS available NOW (monday), from the way it looks on that link (im downloading it now as we speak...)

heh, i turned OFF auto-update for my systems. if its for single systems, MS wants you to turn it on so they can install it for you.

wow, talk about service!








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Old 08-09-2004, 07:49 PM   #4
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Network install link: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Also at MajorGeeks: http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4323

Installed it about an hour ago on one of the home boxes - all's well so far. I like the wireless config update, and the popup blocker...
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:26 PM   #5
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slipstreaming...



(wonder if itll worky...)
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Old 08-09-2004, 08:27 PM   #6
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Are the effects of the different patches different? Can the enterprise install be used on a single comp w/o issue?
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The 'enterprise' version is just a full download of everything - about 475MB. If you get it through Windows Update, it'll be much smaller (since it'll only grab the components you need) - maybe 100-150MB, depending on your config.

So yes, if you have the full download you can install it on any XP computer.
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Old 08-10-2004, 07:44 AM   #8
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im gonna wait a day until we see if there is any major bugs
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Old 08-10-2004, 08:26 AM   #9
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I'm runnign now. It adds this weird security feature which I disabled. OTher than that everything seems fine.
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Old 08-10-2004, 03:30 PM   #10
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Thanks for the link guys...

I think it fixes all the bugs and ants LOL
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Old 08-10-2004, 09:50 PM   #11
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I may have found something that makes SP2 a pile of #$@%#$^%#@$^@$%^$%^$^!

I have swf files that I once was able to run, than no longer run. When I attempt to change the security level it changes. I close the IE session. But when I open a new IE windows, the security level and all my changes are gone. And, since these files (chemistry animation-demos) open their own window...I can't use them them.

Gee...thanks for protecting my security, MS.

Sometimes it won't even let me choose "Low"!


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Old 08-10-2004, 11:26 PM   #12
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Update: After trying, unsuccessfully, to get my flash file to play correctly I downloaded Swiff Player and for good measure, downloaded and installed Firefox.

Too bad I wasn't on MS's beta team...The textbook people are going to crap a load this fall when they find their companion CDs won't work correctly for many people running Windows XP.
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Old 08-11-2004, 07:02 PM   #13
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I just downloaded the IT version (it only too about 13 minutes) and saved it in my D/L folder. Since I'm planning on doing a fresh install of XP Home on a new HD I may wait a while to see if any other surprises come up. I have one question, though. Can I install SP2 over my XP install, or do I have to install SP1a before I can install SP2?
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I just downloaded the IT version (it only too about 13 minutes) and saved it in my D/L folder. Since I'm planning on doing a fresh install of XP Home on a new HD I may wait a while to see if any other surprises come up. I have one question, though. Can I install SP2 over my XP install, or do I have to install SP1a before I can install SP2?

no need for the 2-step process - it will install right over the original XP install.
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ok, i just finished slipstreaming it to my original XP disc - just burned a new one. im gonna try and install it and see if it works without a hitch. so far, when i put it in my optical drive, it launches the XP install window. looks promising.
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Great. Thanks for the quick reply.
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Old 08-12-2004, 11:03 AM   #16
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did slipstreaming work?
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Old 08-12-2004, 07:12 PM   #17
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If anyone's looking, you can get it here...

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did slipstreaming work?

yes, it worked!


what i did was 2 things:
1)ghost my current SP1a XP install, then install SP2. that was ok, things worked fine, except for the graphics driver. ill explain that later on. I decided i like it, but also didnt want to mess around with my current settings plus all the programs i wanted already setup the way i wanted it. So i ghosted THAT too.
2)THEN i formatted the drive, and installed the slipstreamed CD. Worked without a hitch!

im typing in IE right now, bravely going about surfing without any popup blockers installed or spyware protection to see how it will perform. it has its own popup blocker now, and supposedly it can detect if any spyware that somehow gets in you tries to change anything.

feels like having sex without any condom on... ok, its nothing remotely close to sex at all.
please.
but you get the idea.

it has its own security center now, for firewall and automatic update, even a recommendation for antivirus if you dont have any. i turned off the firewall - never had the need for it. but supposedly its more robust than ICF - windows firewall quite configurable, but nothing as configurable as NPF, McAfee, or ZoneAlarm.
but Im still not using it.
Automatic updates is by default turned off, but only partially. i choose my own updates at my own time, so its turned off all the way now.

Not much else has changed, except it has native bluetooth support now (i see it when i try to install drivers). Windows Messenger is now turned off, like SP1a, and so is MSN messenger - usually its one of the first things i disable. Now it doesnt even startup with windows. One move i defintely approve. ALso, to make sure it doesnt get tripped or turned on, i removed it totally via uninstall programs.

what i didnt like though was how the installation messed up the driver for my Dell 17" LCD monitor. not sure if this is the same for other monitors, but my 1280x1024 desktop became VIRTUAL, right after the SP2 install.
I have an 8500 radeon in this machine, and XP recognizes it and installs the WHQL drivers automatically. on its own, it sees a samsung monitor, limited only to 1280x768 desktop. when i install the dell monitor drivers, thats when im able to get up to 1280x1024 res.
Im still able to get that resolution after the SP2 upgrade, but its now virtual. Now i have to install the 8500 catalyst drivers to get the control panel from it to correct the virtual desktop i get. In not a fan of unnecessary extra programs, if/when it still works on its own, previous to any other installations.

i probably will sit on this installation for maybe a week, add my usual essential utilities and programs, and see if it has any other quirks. From my SP1a upgrade to SP2, none of my then-programs installed had a quirk (other than the virtual desktop). if i like THIS installation ill keep it, if not, its a simple ghost back to the previous installation.
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I just installed it within the hour so I haven't noticed any difference in performance on anything yet. It did take a while. The download from faither's link took about 12-15 minutes with a cable modem. I saved it first and then installed it. Once I started the install, what took the time was a massive list of backup files it created- that took about 20 minutes. Then the reboot. I have Norton Firewall so I disabled the Windows one and I already have a pop-up blocker with my Earthlink internet service so I don't know how good Windows does on this. I haven't noticed any problems with my monitor like redcolors experienced. They claim uninstall is easy if you don't like it. I did activate automatic updates. So far so good!
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Anyone have Netgear stuff? I've been hearing that SP2 doesn't play nice with netgear stuff..Of course Netgear's website SUCKS and doesn't help at all..
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Anyone have Netgear stuff? I've been hearing that SP2 doesn't play nice with netgear stuff..Of course Netgear's website SUCKS and doesn't help at all..

Just installed the network version on my test machine and had no problems with a netgear R614 router and fa311 nic.
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does anyone know if norton released an update to make sp2 and norton play nice???
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does anyone know if norton released an update to make sp2 and norton play nice???

http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/sp2/faq.html
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Just slipstreamed it into a bootable CD.
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"Norton AntiVirus
Installing Service Pack 2 will not affect Norton AntiVirus. The Windows Security Center will be aware that you have Norton AntiVirus installed, but it will not be able to determine its working status due to Symantec's tamper-protection technology.

Norton Firewall/Norton Internet Security
Installing Service Pack 2 will not affect Norton Personal Firewall or Norton Internet Security. The Windows Security Center will be aware that you have one of these products installed, but it will not be able to determine their working status due to Symantec's tamper-protection technology"

The new SP2 will show Firewall or Antivirus protection as "Uncertain" whether it is working or not if you have Norton installed. I do and to avoid possible conflicts I have disabled the Windows verions of both.
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Quote:
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The 'enterprise' version is just a full download of everything - about 475MB. If you get it through Windows Update, it'll be much smaller (since it'll only grab the components you need) - maybe 100-150MB, depending on your config.

So yes, if you have the full download you can install it on any XP computer.
where's the full 475MB download? the microsoft website only has some 277MB file. thanks
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I turned off the annoying "Windows Security Center" and the built-in firewall.
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One other change I've noticed- the green dots that go across the screen as Windows loads have now turned blue.
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In case it hasn't been posted yet, here's a list of what Microsoft says runs "differently."
http://support.microsoft.com/default...t=windowsxpsp2

Red Alert 2 won't run? WTF? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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hang on it has office xp listed...wtf lol
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