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Old 11-27-2004, 10:29 PM   #1
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Firefox incorrectly displaying page

I just completed a few pages of my business website, and I want it to be reasonably compatible with most web browsers. Well, it looks perfect in Internet Explorer (which I LOATHE), but Firefox can't even get the little things right, for example:

1. Objects which are the same length are displayed in different sizes.
2. It can't even get the border color of my tables right.
3. Objects are not in the correct positions.

I'm using FrontPage 2004, and I can't believe Firefox cannot display something as simple as a border color correctly.

Does anyone have any experience with this, please?
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Old 11-28-2004, 01:17 AM   #2
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:46 PM   #3
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MICROSOFT frontpage??

im not sure of the problem but that is just a guess
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Old 11-28-2004, 12:55 PM   #4
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Well duh, I immediately thought that Microsloth frontpage may be the problem. But it's still hard to believe that they can sabotage it so much that Firefox can't even render table color's correctly. Maybe I just need to be more cynical.

Update: So I've been reading on the web, and it seems that all WYSIWYG editors are pretty bad at efficient and compatible html coding, especially Frontpage. So my options are to:

1. Learn to become proficient at raw html coding. Too much time, and too much investment for my purposes.

2. Stick with Frontpage, and suffer my website not being compatible with all browers.

3. Pay a professional.

For my purposes, all three options suck @ss. Oh well.

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Old 11-30-2004, 02:47 PM   #5
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Well duh, I immediately thought that Microsloth frontpage may be the problem. But it's still hard to believe that they can sabotage it so much that Firefox can't even render table color's correctly. Maybe I just need to be more cynical.

Update: So I've been reading on the web, and it seems that all WYSIWYG editors are pretty bad at efficient and compatible html coding, especially Frontpage. So my options are to:

1. Learn to become proficient at raw html coding. Too much time, and too much investment for my purposes.

2. Stick with Frontpage, and suffer my website not being compatible with all browers.

3. Pay a professional.

For my purposes, all three options suck @ss. Oh well.

it's a business website right? JMHO, but personally i would think that it would be extremely important for a business website to look nice in Firefox as well since it's a popular browser. How bad does it look overall?

HTML is not that hard to learn. There's a number of tutorials out there, and you could probably figure out how to fix your borders by the end of the day.

heck, if you were to post a link to your site, i'm sure there's an apexer willing to give the source a quick glance or two.
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:35 AM   #6
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If you want a page to ONLY work in Internet explorer than use Front Page to design it. They do not follow the normal web site design layout conventions. Front Page will inject all kinds of behaviors into the website and they will only work on IE. If you want it to work on multiple platforms you need a different web page editor. Personally I like Dreamweaver as its great for this, but its $$$. There should be something out there for cheap if not free from the open source community.

There are plenty of WYGIWYS web page editors that works great across multiple browsers. I know a few web page designers and they only edit raw HTML when they have to make a really small tweak.
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Old 12-01-2004, 08:49 AM   #7
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If you want to check the strict HTML validity of your page, you could download this plugin for Mozilla/Firefox:

http://checky.sourceforge.net/
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:35 AM   #8
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Thanks for the responses.

Actually, I learned basic html (raw) years ago, and I just brushed up on it. You're right, it's not that difficult. So I look at my website in coding mode, and holy schmoly, they got tons of dessicated code and junk in there. I fixed a few things, and it looks better. I'll just finish my website in Frontpage (almost done), and then reengineer.

The website is local only right now, so I can't post a link.
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Old 12-14-2004, 05:52 PM   #9
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Okay, so I learned HTML and was able to fix all discrepancies between browsers. (IE and quirky mode sucks). So now I have a more simple problem:

1. How to I make firefox display flat borders? By this, I mean no shading of the borders because it lessens the effect.

2. What attribute will change the color of the dividers inside a table?

Here's my code:

<table border="3" bordercolor="#00073" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0">
<tr>
<td>
content
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
content
</td>
</td>
</table>

In firefox, the color of the border is muted because of the shading, and the table dividers are gray.
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Old 12-14-2004, 09:00 PM   #10
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i'd say invest time in learning html...not only will you be able to figure out what's messed up, but it's also good knowlegde to have...

i personally dislike all WYSIWYG editors
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