Google planning IM service, report says

Itsme · 08-23-2005, 07:13 AM

Google planning IM service, report says
Published: August 23, 2005, 5:44 AM PDT
By Reuters

Google is set to introduce its own instant-messaging system, the Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday. Such a move would mark an expansion by the Web search leader into text and also voice communications.

Citing unnamed sources "familiar with the service," the Los Angeles Times said that Google's instant-messaging program would be called Google Talk and could be launched as early as Wednesday.

Google Talk goes beyond text-based instant messaging using a computer keyboard to let users hold voice conversations with other computer users, the newspaper quoted a source as saying.

Free software seems to move the search giant further into Microsoft and Yahoo territory.A Google representative declined to comment on the company's product plans. Rumors also circulated last year that the search giant was planning such a move.

If confirmed, the combined computer text and voice-calling service would put Google in competition with a similar service pioneered by Skype, which has attracted tens of millions of users, especially in Europe.

Separately, independent journalist Om Malik on his blog pointed to technical clues that suggest Google is preparing to run an instant-messaging service based on an open-source system known as Jabber.

Jabber technology would allow Google instant-message users to connect with established IM systems that also work with Jabber, including America Online's ICQ and Apple Computer's iChat, Malik said.

"This is the worst possible news for someone like Skype, because now they will be up against not two but three giants who want to offer a pale-version of Skype," he wrote.

Earlier this week, Google said it was branching out beyond pure search to help users manage e-mail, instant messages, news headlines and music. It introduced a new service called the Google Sidebar, a standalone software program that sits on a user's desktop and provides "live" information updates.

Over the 18 months or so, the company has expanded into e-mail, online maps, personalized news and more.

The product push comes as rivals Yahoo, Microsoft and Time Warner's AOL are all pushing to upgrade existing instant-messaging systems and expand into new Net-phone-calling services.

Google's moves take it beyond its roots in Web search and closer to becoming a broad-based Internet media company.

With instant messaging, Google would be breaking into a market in which its major competitors boast tens of millions of subscribers to their established instant-messaging services.

America Online, with its AIM and ICQ brands, counts more than 40 million IM users in the United States alone. Yahoo has around 20 million and Microsoft's MSN Messenger numbers some 14 million users, according to recent data from ComScore Media Metrix.

modena · 08-23-2005, 08:05 AM

they are taking over the world

mcs328 · 08-23-2005, 08:31 AM

Just another program to add to Trillian. It's like email...if it's going to be popular you have to camp for your username.

bachviet · 08-23-2005, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modena

they are taking over the world

Cheesypuff · 08-23-2005, 10:01 AM

speaking about taking over the world =)

earth.google.com check it out...FREAKING COOL!!!

modena · 08-23-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheesypuff

speaking about taking over the world =)

earth.google.com check it out...FREAKING COOL!!!

There was another program like this about 2.5 years ago i used that I thought may have been better, cant really remember though.

They are def trying to take over the internet at very least.

PrObLy · 08-23-2005, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by modena

There was another program like this about 2.5 years ago i used that I thought may have been better, cant really remember though.

They are def trying to take over the internet at very least.

Are you thinking of "Key Hole"?

If so, it's the same thing except now completely free and not only for Nvidia cards. I believe Google Earth is powered by Keyhole.

Everyone was crapping their pants like "OMG look what Google did", but you're absolutely right, essentially that same exact thing with the same interface has been around for some years, it just cost money for a full subscription fee after a free trial.

Don't get me wrong, I love what Google does, but I had the same thoughts as you when I heard about this 'new' Google Earth.

As for theIM software, I might give it a try but I have too many friends on AIM to abandon it.

modena · 08-23-2005, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PrObLy

Are you thinking of "Key Hole"?

If so, it's the same thing except now completely free and not only for Nvidia cards. I believe Google Earth is powered by Keyhole.

Everyone was crapping their pants like "OMG look what Google did", but you're absolutely right, essentially that same exact thing with the same interface has been around for some years, it just cost money for a full subscription fee after a free trial.

Don't get me wrong, I love what Google does, but I had the same thoughts as you when I heard about this 'new' Google Earth.

As for theIM software, I might give it a try but I have too many friends on AIM to abandon it.

Yea, that the program! I couldnt remember the name. It was a free month trial or something like that.

Anyway, I just thought when I heard on like CNN and MSNBC like all the commotion about google earth and all this jazz, i was like, um, yea, i did like like 2.5 years ago. Still cool, just amazing what good marketing and name recognition does for you.

wung · 08-23-2005, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcs328

Just another program to add to Trillian. It's like email...if it's going to be popular you have to camp for your username.

i'm hoping we can just use our gmail names instead of "camping for username".

Showtime · 08-23-2005, 01:00 PM

wung · 08-23-2005, 10:37 PM

it's OUT already!!!!

www.google.com/talk/

cocojambo · 08-24-2005, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheesypuff

speaking about taking over the world =)

earth.google.com check it out...FREAKING COOL!!!

word! that combined with google maps... hell google is good

Jeffbx · 08-24-2005, 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wung

i'm hoping we can just use our gmail names instead of "camping for username".

That's what I was hoping too... ask & ye shall receive -

From the Google Talk install page:

Quote:

Google Talk is in beta and requires a Gmail username and password.

wung · 08-24-2005, 04:00 PM

yeah, glad i was able to simply login with my gmail login.

i like the clean interface, and how if your chat window is not the active window (behind another window), the IM replies from your friends will show up at the bottom right of the screen for a couple of seconds. the voice chat is fairly good also ...

kimchicowboy · 08-24-2005, 06:29 PM

i won't do it. NOPE.

Jeffbx · 08-25-2005, 06:00 AM

HAHAHAHAHA! You must! Resistance is futile.

Your processor will be Intel
Your OS will be Microsoft
All of your information will be from Google

Then all we need is a *tiny* bit of your DNA and we'll put this barcode on the back of your neck real quick....

StonedWheat · 08-25-2005, 12:54 PM

Darn it...one more thing on my taskbar.

The chat thing is pretty clear!

Airencracken · 08-25-2005, 01:06 PM

I like it so far.

modena · 08-25-2005, 01:23 PM

You know that moore's law thing (The observation made in 1965 by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel, that the number of transistors per square inch on integrated circuits had doubled every year since the integrated circuit was invented). And there are other similar ones out there, we all know them so I wont digress into any others.

I am making Modena's Law.

Modena's Law states that:
The number of new icons on a taskbar (or however you set it up) grows by 25% per year (this taking in consideration unistallation of programs and deletion of icons through the year as well). However only, at maximum 40% of the added icons are unique programs (programs that are different enough from others installed, installing yahoo messenger when you already have aim is not unique, installing excel when you only have word would be). Thus the growth of new unique program icons is at most 10%, while the growth of new icons with similar programs is atleast 15%

apexbyte · 08-31-2005, 11:56 PM

google talk has been crashing my computer (to the point of not even being able to bring up task manager)
there is some sort of conflict somewhere (I think it doesn't get along with firefox...?)
What goo-gives?

08-23-2005, 07:13 AM	#1
Itsme Vice Admiral Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Southern California Posts: 4,813	Google planning IM service, report says Google planning IM service, report says Published: August 23, 2005, 5:44 AM PDT By Reuters Google is set to introduce its own instant-messaging system, the Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday. Such a move would mark an expansion by the Web search leader into text and also voice communications. Citing unnamed sources "familiar with the service," the Los Angeles Times said that Google's instant-messaging program would be called Google Talk and could be launched as early as Wednesday. Google Talk goes beyond text-based instant messaging using a computer keyboard to let users hold voice conversations with other computer users, the newspaper quoted a source as saying. Free software seems to move the search giant further into Microsoft and Yahoo territory.A Google representative declined to comment on the company's product plans. Rumors also circulated last year that the search giant was planning such a move. If confirmed, the combined computer text and voice-calling service would put Google in competition with a similar service pioneered by Skype, which has attracted tens of millions of users, especially in Europe. Separately, independent journalist Om Malik on his blog pointed to technical clues that suggest Google is preparing to run an instant-messaging service based on an open-source system known as Jabber. Jabber technology would allow Google instant-message users to connect with established IM systems that also work with Jabber, including America Online's ICQ and Apple Computer's iChat, Malik said. "This is the worst possible news for someone like Skype, because now they will be up against not two but three giants who want to offer a pale-version of Skype," he wrote. Earlier this week, Google said it was branching out beyond pure search to help users manage e-mail, instant messages, news headlines and music. It introduced a new service called the Google Sidebar, a standalone software program that sits on a user's desktop and provides "live" information updates. Over the 18 months or so, the company has expanded into e-mail, online maps, personalized news and more. The product push comes as rivals Yahoo, Microsoft and Time Warner's AOL are all pushing to upgrade existing instant-messaging systems and expand into new Net-phone-calling services. Google's moves take it beyond its roots in Web search and closer to becoming a broad-based Internet media company. With instant messaging, Google would be breaking into a market in which its major competitors boast tens of millions of subscribers to their established instant-messaging services. America Online, with its AIM and ICQ brands, counts more than 40 million IM users in the United States alone. Yahoo has around 20 million and Microsoft's MSN Messenger numbers some 14 million users, according to recent data from ComScore Media Metrix.

08-23-2005, 08:05 AM	#2
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08-23-2005, 08:31 AM	#3
mcs328 Admiral Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 6,578	Just another program to add to Trillian. It's like email...if it's going to be popular you have to camp for your username. __________________

08-23-2005, 10:01 AM	#5
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08-23-2005, 10:37 PM	#11
wung Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 435	it's OUT already!!!! www.google.com/talk/ Last edited by wung : 08-23-2005 at 11:52 PM.

08-24-2005, 04:00 PM	#14
wung Lieutenant Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 435	yeah, glad i was able to simply login with my gmail login. i like the clean interface, and how if your chat window is not the active window (behind another window), the IM replies from your friends will show up at the bottom right of the screen for a couple of seconds. the voice chat is fairly good also ...

08-24-2005, 06:29 PM	#15
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08-25-2005, 06:00 AM	#16
Jeffbx Fleet Admiral Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 9,390	HAHAHAHAHA! You must! Resistance is futile. Your processor will be Intel Your OS will be Microsoft All of your information will be from Google Then all we need is a tiny bit of your DNA and we'll put this barcode on the back of your neck real quick....

08-25-2005, 12:54 PM	#17
StonedWheat Commander Join Date: May 2000 Location: Bay Area, Ca Posts: 1,268	Darn it...one more thing on my taskbar. The chat thing is pretty clear! __________________ "Cynicism is knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing." -Oscar Wilde

08-25-2005, 01:06 PM	#18
Airencracken Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,681	I like it so far. __________________ "I remember my first orgasm, I just wish someone was there to share it with me..."11-05-2003 05:33 AM - Topane They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, & the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opiate of the masses. - Karl Marx Hell is other people - Jean-Paul Sartre

08-25-2005, 01:23 PM	#19
modena Captain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: pa Posts: 1,741	You know that moore's law thing (The observation made in 1965 by Gordon Moore, co-founder of Intel, that the number of transistors per square inch on integrated circuits had doubled every year since the integrated circuit was invented). And there are other similar ones out there, we all know them so I wont digress into any others. I am making Modena's Law. Modena's Law states that: The number of new icons on a taskbar (or however you set it up) grows by 25% per year (this taking in consideration unistallation of programs and deletion of icons through the year as well). However only, at maximum 40% of the added icons are unique programs (programs that are different enough from others installed, installing yahoo messenger when you already have aim is not unique, installing excel when you only have word would be). Thus the growth of new unique program icons is at most 10%, while the growth of new icons with similar programs is atleast 15%

08-31-2005, 11:56 PM	#20
apexbyte Lieutenant Junior Grade Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 51	google talk has been crashing my computer (to the point of not even being able to bring up task manager) there is some sort of conflict somewhere (I think it doesn't get along with firefox...?) What goo-gives?

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