08-31-2005, 11:45 AM
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anti-P2P+Microsoft destroying music
So yesterday I bought the new 30 Seconds to Mars CD, and much to my surprise upon opening it, I noticed there was none of that sticky crap along the edges of the case... awesome I thought!.. untill I put the CD in my cd player, and NOTHING.
Being the pesimist I am.. I immediately tried a different cd and everything worked fine. So what the heck is wrong with the cd.. it's brand new.. Later on last night, I put the cd in my computer, and everything was explained. Not only did I have to agree to some agreement via a gui... but the entire CD was encoded in 'lossless' (bs) wma. All of the tracks are also packaged somehow onto the cd such that when I look at the cd via explorer, it appears similar to what a DVD would.. with all tracks coming up as data tracks on the cd. Winamp verifies this.. it only sees a single data image (unplayable). Worse yet, you get an aweful gui media player to play this crap, which uses ~50MB of system memory vs. the ~4-8MB that I love winamp for. there is an option for extracting the tracks.. but you're only given a wma (192kbps max) encoder, I personally prefer 192kbps MIN mp3/mp3pro (no flaming, its what I use).. but yeah.. I'll have to go through the data tracks and see if I can hack it somehow, or at least discover how to properly decode the data. Oh yeah... one more AWEFUL thing.. when you're are asked to accept some agreement when the gui thing first loads up.. it actually creates/uses an internet connection to verify something of some sort. It claims that it is 'authenticating' something. This has got to be illegal.. (though I admitadly didnt read the agreement, oh well.. next time I put the cd in, it will come up) /edit: I tried listening to the CD w/out an internet connection. It fails. Anybody else come across this sorta thing? *flails* ~Kyle
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08-31-2005, 12:41 PM
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anyone scratching their heads...
title? content? title? content? what they got to do with each other... |
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08-31-2005, 01:07 PM
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Kyle,
I'm not 100% positive, but I think this should work: Try ripping that ****er with Exact Audio Copy ( http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/ ) Also try disabling autorun when you put the CD in so it doesn't pull that verification bull****. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to rip from the original CD audio to a LAME encoded MP3 (you may have to download the LAME plugin or something for EAC, I'm not positive) of settings that you prefer (192+ bitrate, etc). It sucks that it wouldn't work in your standalone CD player though...so you'll probably have to make yourself two separate rips of the CD on your computer: One in the highest bitrate you can...then transfer that to an audio CD. And the other with your preferred MP3 settings, for storage.
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08-31-2005, 01:20 PM
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It seems like calling it a CD is false advertising. Send it back... reverse charges... tear stuff up.
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08-31-2005, 01:58 PM
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Does the label give you any warning that you can't play it in a regular CD player? If not I would take it back as defective.
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08-31-2005, 03:42 PM
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 But I guess I kind of see the point. Because of P2P music sharing, CD makers have resorted to this sort of crap. Unfortunately, it gives all the P2Pers another reason to keep on doing what they're doing. A word to the big companies. Just remember...whatever you coded to lock up the files....there is always a solution to the code. And most of the time, the guy programming it is going to make the cash by telling the CD ripping tools how to un-program it.
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08-31-2005, 07:55 PM
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Also if its one of the "Dual Discs" there are warnings that those dont work in a "some cd players" they mean "A lot of cd players" Dual Disc is Garbage.. with a G.
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08-31-2005, 08:40 PM
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Took it back and got a refund after saying I'd file a lawsuit.
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08-31-2005, 08:48 PM
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The ones making the real money are companies like Macrovision that keep coming out with newer, better protection every year or so. I wish I bought stock in *that* company ten years ago. Stupid publishers.
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08-31-2005, 11:54 PM
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drm is teh suxor.
Seriously, why are they so hell bent on preventing us from digital freedom! Fdaman! |
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09-01-2005, 05:55 AM
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You really want to blame the label & the RIAA on this one, Kyle. I'm with you, tho - I would have returned it too. |
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