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Old 12-04-2008, 12:52 PM   #1
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Angry S: Hit and Run

Last night, as I was leaving work ~8 pm, I walk out to my car and what do I find? Some hit my car in the parking lot. The driver's side door opens enough for me to slide in and out but that is it. I got building security and the police involved. It took the police ~2 hrs to show up. I am soooo tired today and a bit salty too. Building security said they would check the video footage to see if they could get a plate # from the SUV parked next to me. I am not a happy camper today.
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Old 12-04-2008, 03:34 PM   #2
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That sux man. I hope they catch the creep that did it. Good luck.

Hmm...must be some idiot. How the hell can you damage a vehicle parked next to you like that?
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Old 12-04-2008, 09:39 PM   #3
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didn't that happen to you before? or was it that your car got broken into?
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Old 12-05-2008, 01:33 AM   #4
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Are you saying it was a coworker who did it? Or is the lot shared with customers?

Unfortunately the odds are they won't be able to get a plate, unless the camera is zoomed in pretty tight on where the cars were parked, or unless the CCTV system is much better than the vast majority of business systems.
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Old 12-05-2008, 06:21 AM   #5
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didn't that happen to you before? or was it that your car got broken into?
Are you thinking of mcs328 (S: Neighbors hit my car)
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Old 12-05-2008, 07:18 AM   #6
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My car did get broken into a little while back. I just finished the repairs on it the weekend before Turkey day. This hit and run happened on Wed night.

Hopefully, they will get the car on camera. There are a ton of cameras on the two company owned buildings plus the buildings are literally brand new. I am pretty sure they put good quality cameras in.

YEsterday, I tracked the car down by going through the lot before and after lunch. I looked at every SUV that matched what I thought was the one parked next to me the night before. I found the car (it did match the make/model/color that I recollected was parked next to my car) and matched the fresh damage up to the damage on mine. I reported it to company security and I took pictures. The car is going to get fixed. I will report the person to the company ethics panel if it was someone from the company or I will report it to our customer's chain of command if it was not someone working for my company. If they work for our company they are as good as fired.
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Old 12-10-2008, 08:52 AM   #7
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Man that pisses me off to no end when people disrespect you and your property like that.

I hope you catch the ahole.
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:27 AM   #8
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I did catch her. She made excuses, blamed me, lied, and then admitted it was her fault. I met with her face-to-face and recorded the conversation. She said she doesn't have the money but said she would get it in the next couple of weeks. It was a hilarious conversation. She blamed me because I "was in her parking spot" (it was a company parking lot with no assigned spaces vice the ones for very high level employees (VPs and up). She also said in one breath that she pays more in insurance than my car is worth and then told me a sob story about paying for college expenses for two children. This was after she told me she is retired military which means she is collecting two paychecks plus if her husband is working then that would be three.
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:48 AM   #9
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lol. did she know you recorded it? is her mgr involved? why would it take her weeks to find the money? wouldn't her insurance cover it?
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Old 12-10-2008, 10:53 AM   #10
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Intriguing story, keep us updated plz!
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Does she work for the same company? Even if she didn't, I'd just turn it over to security/police dept. and let them deal with it.
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Old 12-10-2008, 11:56 AM   #12
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I hope you don't get in trouble for the recorded conversation. Do you have to let the other person you're recording the conversation or is that only if it's over the phone?
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Old 12-10-2008, 12:23 PM   #13
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i think that's just over the phone.
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Old 12-10-2008, 03:08 PM   #14
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lol. did she know you recorded it? is her mgr involved? why would it take her weeks to find the money? wouldn't her insurance cover it?

No, she did not know I recorded it and, legally speaking, I am not required to tell her. It was a face-to-face conversation in public not a phone conversation, although many states still allow recording of a phone conversation as long as at least one party is aware of the recording. I consulted with my attorney on this before hand.

Her manager is not involved because they do not work for my company. She does not want to involve her insurance company. If she doesn't get back to me by tomorrow (I gave her 48 hrs) with a detailed plan on how she plans on paying then I turn it in to my insurance company and they can sort it out.

The authorities already told me that unless I got her to admit to hitting my car and running then there is nothing they can really do. She claimed, after denying that she hit my car, that she hit my car and left a note. So, technically, it would be hard to prove a hit and run. She would probably be guilty of some lessor crime.

I tried to get security involved and they decided to take the easy way out and have a hands off approach. I am going to bring this up with someone within our company b/c I think it is BS and it violates two of our company's core tenants on ethics (i.e. integrity and citizenship). Security is in the "on deck" position. As soon as I get done with this lady they are next.
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:04 PM   #15
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Wouldn't the security video prove she didn't leave a note? If so, you've got her on hit-and-run. Or is security not even helping with providing the video?
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Old 12-10-2008, 05:56 PM   #16
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subpoena that video!
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Old 12-10-2008, 09:47 PM   #17
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Security isn't helping. Plus I am not even sure what the video shows. It might show nothing because it was too far from the closest camera. It might have showed everything including who the second gunman on the grassy knoll was. I preferred to not count on any evidence that I did not have in my hands.
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Old 12-29-2008, 12:16 PM   #18
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I talked to her again today after she has been dragging her feet for 2+ weeks and she is now saying that it might be my fault. She says that if I was parked "over the line" and "in her spot" then it is my fault. I tried to point out the problems with those arguments but she lacks logic. I got off the phone with her and immediately called my insurance company. If she didn't enjoy working with me then she will definitely not like working with them.

I hope she lies to my insurance company or hers when she gives a statement. I would love to trap her in a lie and get her insurance company to cancel her policy. Happy New Year !!!

P.S.: This is # 6000
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:02 PM   #19
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The truth is, you have the police report on your side. You have her admitting to the accident. Turn it over to the police. They should be able to get her to cooperate more than your company security team.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:37 PM   #20
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My viewpoint is that I pay my insurance company to take care of the problems if I am involved in an accident. After all, they are on the hook to collect the money from the other party.
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Old 12-29-2008, 09:40 PM   #21
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I hope the police noted the location of your car in the space. I.e., that you were within the lines of the spot. Since you were on private property there is a fairly large chance that they merely noted that you claimed your car was hit. In fact you are lucky that they were willing to even show up to a private lot.
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Old 12-29-2008, 10:33 PM   #22
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The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter where I was parked. She hit my car while it was parked therefore she is liable. I can guarantee that my car was within the lines; I am anal like that.
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Old 12-29-2008, 11:56 PM   #23
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The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter where I was parked. She hit my car while it was parked therefore she is liable.
+1. Of course, as soon as she realizes this, I half expect her to claim that you drove your car into her parked car. Some people!
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:22 PM   #24
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I wish she would have claimed that! I would love to spring the audio recording on her! My insurance company explained to her that it did not matter where I was parked because she hit an unoccupied, parked vehicle.

BTW - she called me back within minutes of my insurance company calling her and she was pi$$ed. She left me a pretty tersely worded v-mail. I just had to laugh.
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:36 AM   #25
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people like this need to be put infront of a judge and given a couple of days in the jail. it's the only way they get to see there ways . i once backed into a park car on a side street. and i informed the girl who owned it.she was so clueless as to it having any damage. my partner at the time thought i was nuts as there was no one around that seen it. i just feel its carma if i didnt inform the owner then it come back and get me in another way and a lot worst.
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Old 12-31-2008, 08:05 AM   #26
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posted this just becouse it along the same lines in away -
just the other day im at the store and a guys talking about how his wife had just been in a auto accident and was hurt. but he was talking more about how pissed he was that the cops towed away there car before he could get to the scene. how much money they are going to make off the other drivers insurance. also how he plans to spend all this money. he said his wife worked 2 jobs and that he claiming all kinds of exspences . but he never seem to care about how his wife was just how much money they were going to rake in from this. and he said he was so pissed at the cops for having the car towed and them not letting him take her to the hospital. also what a hardship he having becouse he has to do the housework /watch the children for now. also he was so happy that he was able to drive the car that got hit and impounded/towed. i just hate scum bags like this that always look to make a quick buck. and im sure if it was him and not his wife who was hurt he be a royal pain on her. wanting her to work her both jobs ,and wait on him hand and foot to.even before the kids needs.
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Old 12-31-2008, 10:51 AM   #27
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BTW - she called me back within minutes of my insurance company calling her and she was pi$$ed.
Crap, you gave her almost three weeks to work it out without insurance getting involved. That's more than I would have done. I would have been on the phone with my insurance company within minutes of seeing the damage.

Good job calling the police and documenting everything. My son was in a minor accident almost four years ago and didn't call the cops. Our lawyers are still haggling over the terms of the passengers alleged "injuries". If the police were involved, I'm convinced it never would have gone this far.
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:38 PM   #28
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that's absolutely nuts! Nice detective work and i think you're handling the situation properly.

I don't know why people are so averse to owning up to their mistakes. It really is incredibly shocking when you think about it. It's like they have a complex that they are so fantastic it couldn't possible fit into their world view that THEY could have done something like that. It must be YOUR fault.

Not related but i was at a movie and a lady was tapping her foot on my chair... of which she was probably unaware it was annoying and i asked her if she would kindly stop. She retorted that "well your head's too big"... my hair was rather large at the time but it didn't have anything to do with the situation at hand... nothing. just a simple retort.

I hope everything works out for you.


oh yeah and because of your guys sage advice i'm now advising my brothers to ALWAYS get a police report. Stories change and aches and pains show up... it's just not worth it anymore (financially) to give people the benefit of the doubt.
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Old 01-01-2009, 09:55 AM   #29
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It is amazing that people will not take responsibility for their actions. Actually, I would have given this lady more time but after 3 weeks she still believes I am at fault. The person at my insurance company called the hit and run lady. She told the hit and run lady that it did not matter where I was parked because the car was parked and unoccupied. She told her that it was her fault and she could contact her insurance company if she needed more clarification.
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Old 01-08-2009, 01:02 PM   #30
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Ok. I have an update. Her insurance company wants to total my car. The car books for about $2500. There was almost $2k worth of damage. Has anyone had any experience with the totalling of a car? I want to try to buy the car back from them because it is in great shape mechanically speaking and the damage is really only to the front fender and front door on the driver's side. I just replaced the radiator and the exhaust system on the car, so they are good for at least another 3 years. I need to change the timing belt and I have an appt for that next Friday.

Any insight into this process and how I can negotiate with the insurance company is greatly appreciated!
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