Adding Hard Drive

zippyjuan · 05-31-2006, 06:34 PM

My 80gb Maxtor harddrive is starting to get full with my pictures (15,000 at last count!) so I decided to stick in an 80gb Western Digital I had around as additional storage. I connected it to the same cable as my other one, using the slave connection and set the jumper on the new drive to slave too. When I rebooted, it showed up as new hardware added and it also shows in the divices manager as a disc drive. Does it need to be formatted and if so how should I do that? I certainly do not want to reformat over my original drive and lose everything. When I try to find out how much space is availible on my harddrive, it shows the amount on the primary drive only. Is there anything else I need to do or will the computer automatically take care of things from here? The connections seem to be fine. Never done this before obviously. Thanks for any tips!

DarkFury · 05-31-2006, 07:53 PM

First, I would suggest using "cable select" instead of Master/Slave

Second... if the drive is formatted, then do you have a drive letter for it? I'd look into Disk Management to see if the drive is recognized. (If you don't know where that is... go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, then Disk Management.

If you don't see your drive there... then it might not be marked for Windows to recognize it. One way you can do this is.... unhook your current primary disk (the Maxtor) and only hook up the WD... and let Windows XP format it and create partitions. After that, just cancel the install and rehook up your Maxtor at the end of the cable and then just format your WD normally.

Or.. I'd go to Western Digital and download their "Data Lifeguard tools" that preps a new disk for install into a system. That should allow your XP to see the drive and then you can format it normally. Here is a link to the DLT files: http://support.wdc.com/download/inde...pid=999&swid=1

Airencracken · 05-31-2006, 08:14 PM

Or if you have xp pro go to administrative tools in your control panel and select "computer management" and then select the disk management and you can format it from there in windows.

DarkFury · 05-31-2006, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Airencracken

Or if you have xp pro go to administrative tools in your control panel and select "computer management" and then select the disk management and you can format it from there in windows.

Please see the "second" suggestion in my post above.

But yeah, you can format and adjust partitions from there as well if the drive is recognized by Windows XP.

Hoser · 05-31-2006, 08:26 PM

You have to use a special cable for cable select.

Markel · 05-31-2006, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoser

You have to use a special cable for cable select.

Any modern cable and drive should work with cable select.

With most tools that come with a new drive, they want you to hook up the old drive as slave and the new as master, then run their clone utility. Or, with cable select settings, put the new one one the end connector and the old one on the second connector.

zippy - have you enabled the drive from your BIOS?

zippyjuan · 05-31-2006, 08:44 PM

I went to Western Digital's site to see what they recommended and used "Computer Management" to format the drive. It is now formatted and labeled "Drive E" (my DVD drive is "D"). Under My Computer it lists it as "New Volume". Both were done with NTSF formatting and interestingly the Maxtor shows a bit more capacity than the WD, even though both are called 80 gb drives. I will shortly be installing Norton Systemworks including Ghost (I already use Norton but it is about to expire and got a free after rebate on what used to be Systemworks Pro- I still need a copy of firewall). Any suggestions for using that or for the new drive? Thanks for the responces.

Markel · 05-31-2006, 09:02 PM

Like I said, go into the BIOS and make sure that both IDE-0 channels are enabled (set to AUTO).

For your size drive and extra storage, I would probably just make 1 partition on the new one (E). You can do that through the disk management (right click on My Computer, select Manage, click on Disk Management.

zippyjuan · 06-07-2006, 06:09 PM

Things are working fine. I just installed Norton Ghost and when it did its backup, it put it on the second drive. Problem is that it is the same size as the other drive and the backup took about the same space as the other one used so I really didn't gain any storage capacity from what I had before, but now I have a backup. Maybe I will have to get a bigger drive after all. At least prices are better than they were. It was about $1 a gb when I bought these. I have about 28gb left on an 80gb drive.

DarkFury · 06-07-2006, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyjuan

Things are working fine. I just installed Norton Ghost and when it did its backup, it put it on the second drive. Problem is that it is the same size as the other drive and the backup took about the same space as the other one used so I really didn't gain any storage capacity from what I had before, but now I have a backup. Maybe I will have to get a bigger drive after all. At least prices are better than they were. It was about $1 a gb when I bought these. I have about 28gb left on an 80gb drive.

Did you use the highest compression setting? If you did, you normally don't get a 1:1 ratio on the backup.

zippyjuan · 06-08-2006, 01:32 PM

Compression setting? The booklet that comes with Systemworks does not even mention Ghost or any other programs on it- let alone tell you how to use it or options for it. I just opened Ghost and clicked on backup. I have no information on what it or I am doing with it.

DarkFury · 06-08-2006, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zippyjuan

Compression setting? The booklet that comes with Systemworks does not even mention Ghost or any other programs on it- let alone tell you how to use it or options for it. I just opened Ghost and clicked on backup. I have no information on what it or I am doing with it.

Oops.. maybe that's just a setting that Ghost 2003 can do and not Ghost 9.0.

zippyjuan · 06-09-2006, 11:44 AM

THey are up to version 10.0 now. I guess they wanted to keep it simple and reduce the ways users can mess with it. The online manual is 157 pages and a quick scan didn't see anything about compressing. Thanks anyways! http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/hom...0/manuals.html

ArkiStan · 06-11-2006, 08:42 AM

80 is silly. Get a nice 300-500 Gigger.

zippyjuan · 06-11-2006, 12:14 PM

I was just using what I had. My original drive was 80gb, went bad and I had to RMA it. I bought another one to get my computer going again (also 80gb) so I had an extra 80gb when the RMA came back. Until I started with digital photography it was more than enough. I think I will wait longer before I do get a larger one for now though.

05-31-2006, 06:34 PM	#1
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	Adding Hard Drive My 80gb Maxtor harddrive is starting to get full with my pictures (15,000 at last count!) so I decided to stick in an 80gb Western Digital I had around as additional storage. I connected it to the same cable as my other one, using the slave connection and set the jumper on the new drive to slave too. When I rebooted, it showed up as new hardware added and it also shows in the divices manager as a disc drive. Does it need to be formatted and if so how should I do that? I certainly do not want to reformat over my original drive and lose everything. When I try to find out how much space is availible on my harddrive, it shows the amount on the primary drive only. Is there anything else I need to do or will the computer automatically take care of things from here? The connections seem to be fine. Never done this before obviously. Thanks for any tips! __________________ I add new pictures to my photo gallery pretty regularly. You can see them here if you are interested: http://www.pbase.com/jeffryz

05-31-2006, 07:53 PM	#2
DarkFury Secretary of the Navy Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Chillin' N Da 'Hood Posts: 34,997	First, I would suggest using "cable select" instead of Master/Slave Second... if the drive is formatted, then do you have a drive letter for it? I'd look into Disk Management to see if the drive is recognized. (If you don't know where that is... go to Control Panel, Administrative Tools, Computer Management, then Disk Management. If you don't see your drive there... then it might not be marked for Windows to recognize it. One way you can do this is.... unhook your current primary disk (the Maxtor) and only hook up the WD... and let Windows XP format it and create partitions. After that, just cancel the install and rehook up your Maxtor at the end of the cable and then just format your WD normally. Or.. I'd go to Western Digital and download their "Data Lifeguard tools" that preps a new disk for install into a system. That should allow your XP to see the drive and then you can format it normally. Here is a link to the DLT files: http://support.wdc.com/download/inde...pid=999&swid=1 __________________ DarkFury's Pimptopia - Don't Hate the Playa, Hate the Game! Home of the Original OG Pimp (accept NO imitations)

05-31-2006, 08:14 PM	#3
Airencracken Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: California Posts: 6,681	Or if you have xp pro go to administrative tools in your control panel and select "computer management" and then select the disk management and you can format it from there in windows. __________________ "I remember my first orgasm, I just wish someone was there to share it with me..."11-05-2003 05:33 AM - Topane They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, & the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opiate of the masses. - Karl Marx Hell is other people - Jean-Paul Sartre

05-31-2006, 08:44 PM	#7
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	I went to Western Digital's site to see what they recommended and used "Computer Management" to format the drive. It is now formatted and labeled "Drive E" (my DVD drive is "D"). Under My Computer it lists it as "New Volume". Both were done with NTSF formatting and interestingly the Maxtor shows a bit more capacity than the WD, even though both are called 80 gb drives. I will shortly be installing Norton Systemworks including Ghost (I already use Norton but it is about to expire and got a free after rebate on what used to be Systemworks Pro- I still need a copy of firewall). Any suggestions for using that or for the new drive? Thanks for the responces. Last edited by zippyjuan : 05-31-2006 at 08:46 PM.

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05-31-2006, 08:26 PM	#5
Hoser Commander Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Omaha, NE, United States Posts: 1,275	You have to use a special cable for cable select.

05-31-2006, 09:02 PM	#8
Markel Chief of Naval Operations Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 11,733	Like I said, go into the BIOS and make sure that both IDE-0 channels are enabled (set to AUTO). For your size drive and extra storage, I would probably just make 1 partition on the new one (E). You can do that through the disk management (right click on My Computer, select Manage, click on Disk Management.

06-07-2006, 06:09 PM	#9
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	Things are working fine. I just installed Norton Ghost and when it did its backup, it put it on the second drive. Problem is that it is the same size as the other drive and the backup took about the same space as the other one used so I really didn't gain any storage capacity from what I had before, but now I have a backup. Maybe I will have to get a bigger drive after all. At least prices are better than they were. It was about $1 a gb when I bought these. I have about 28gb left on an 80gb drive.

06-08-2006, 01:32 PM	#11
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	Compression setting? The booklet that comes with Systemworks does not even mention Ghost or any other programs on it- let alone tell you how to use it or options for it. I just opened Ghost and clicked on backup. I have no information on what it or I am doing with it.

06-09-2006, 11:44 AM	#13
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	THey are up to version 10.0 now. I guess they wanted to keep it simple and reduce the ways users can mess with it. The online manual is 157 pages and a quick scan didn't see anything about compressing. Thanks anyways! http://www.symantec.com/techsupp/hom...0/manuals.html

06-11-2006, 08:42 AM	#14
ArkiStan Admiral Join Date: May 2000 Location: Recession Central Posts: 5,898	80 is silly. Get a nice 300-500 Gigger.

06-11-2006, 12:14 PM	#15
zippyjuan Picture of the Day Guru Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 8,756	I was just using what I had. My original drive was 80gb, went bad and I had to RMA it. I bought another one to get my computer going again (also 80gb) so I had an extra 80gb when the RMA came back. Until I started with digital photography it was more than enough. I think I will wait longer before I do get a larger one for now though.

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