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Old 12-20-2004, 06:48 AM   #1
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one alcoholic beverage, one non-alcoholic beverage, one alcoholic beverage...

i am thinking about the holidays, especially New Year's Eve, because i have tickets to a party whereby the bar is open from 9pm - 1am. i don't want a freakin hangover, but free booze is too tempting.

so, i just read this idea: alternating alcoholic with non-alcoholic beverages. they said to have water or soda, but preferably a glass of some kind of juice, in between each alcoholic drink.

anyone tried this?
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:55 AM   #2
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how about just alcohol with juice in it?
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:55 AM   #3
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i am thinking about the holidays, especially New Year's Eve, because i have tickets to a party whereby the bar is open from 9pm - 1am. i don't want a freakin hangover, but free booze is too tempting.

so, i just read this idea: alternating alcoholic with non-alcoholic beverages. they said to have water or soda, but preferably a glass of some kind of juice, in between each alcoholic drink.

anyone tried this?

yeah, no magic to it. it just causes you to drink less and therefor have a lesser hangover.

viva la hangover! ( i don't really get them)
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Yeah, it works. Alchohol dehydrates your body, which is what causes the hangover symptoms. Drinking lots of water or juice will lessen these effects, so alternating would be a good idea. At the very least you should chug a big glass of water before you go to bed.
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Old 12-20-2004, 08:03 AM   #5
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hmm open bar and you want to consume less alkehol?

i just get something strong that makes me take longer to drink it. And then if i can i drink 1 or 2 large kozmo.com glasses of water. Those things are huge. that usually helps aleviate the hang over, and actually makes me get out of bed in the morning cause i drank so much water i have to pee.
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Old 12-20-2004, 08:19 AM   #6
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one bourbon, one scotch and one beer.........




ya - alternate alcohol with water, you'll last longer and be less likely to get sick/hungover
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Old 12-20-2004, 09:02 AM   #7
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Alternating alcohol with water would work but why would you want to fill up with water during an open bar. When you go home, just drink a ton of water then and you shouldn't get a hangover the next morning. If you do, then when you wake up, take another couple shots of whisky and that should fix that hangover right up.
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Old 12-20-2004, 09:33 AM   #8
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I vote for a combination of everyone else's idea nd molecularfire's.

Drink one glass of mixed drink and then one glass of water, but no more than one glass or you'll be taking trips to the bathroom every 10-15 minutes once you break the seal, so to speak. Then when you get home, down 2 glasses of water, and you'll be great
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Alternating alcohol with water would work but why would you want to fill up with water during an open bar. When you go home, just drink a ton of water then and you shouldn't get a hangover the next morning. If you do, then when you wake up, take another couple shots of whisky and that should fix that hangover right up.
that is so false - drinking more alcohol doesn't cure a hangover.

and open bar or not -- i can only consume so much before i'm gonna hurl.
what gets me is shots, and i'm a fun girl, if someone is doing a shot - i'm there. then i pay the next day.
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Old 12-20-2004, 10:03 AM   #10
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actually, it's very, very, very true. alcohol, in an amount equivalent to about half a beer, absolutely WILL help a hangover the next morning. i can show you the studies if you want not recommended by doctors for many obvious reasons, but it does work.

the collection of symptoms we call "hangover" are medically referred to as acute ethanol withdrawal symptoms... and of course, reversing the withdrawal (by consuming more alcohol) will reverse the symptoms that are directly caused by the withdrawal. it's not a perfect cure, as many of the symptoms are caused by inflammation of tissues and accumulation of impurities in the alcohol (so cheap booze is bad) and byproducts of alcohol metabolism, but it absolutely DOES help.

google it, and you'll find all kinds of medically inane "facts" all over the place... anti-alcohol agendas will say that DRINKING MORE ALCOHOL WILL NOT CURE A HANGOVER! some places say NOTHING WILL CURE IT; YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE ALCOHOL TO GET OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM! which is rubbish; the hangover persists long after BAC has hit zero. then you find advice to take chaser, or a ginger drink (which will help the nausea sensation a bit, but that's all it does!), or any number of other boneheaded things... on this one, stick to the "real" medical information, not the "educate yourself!" sites.

yeah, alternating with water or a gatorade-like-entity is a good idea... not magic, but it helps. i don't think massive amounts of sugar from several glasses of juice is the best idea, for several reasons. and anything with caffeine would also be counter-productive. but you can also load up on water/electrolytes when you get home; it's just about as good if you can remember to do it, and then stay up for another 1/2 hour or so to hit the bathroom before you crash
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Old 12-20-2004, 10:12 AM   #11
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here, you might be able to find this in a health-food store:

Effect of Opuntia ficus indica on symptoms of the alcohol hangover.
Arch Intern Med. 2004 Jun 28;164(12):1334-40
Wiese J, McPherson S, Odden MC, Shlipak MG.

General Internal Medicine Section and Department of Medicine, Tulane Health Sciences Center, New Orleans, LA, USA. jwiese@tulane.edu

BACKGROUND: The severity of the alcohol hangover may be related to inflammation induced by impurities in the alcohol beverage and byproducts of alcohol metabolism. An extract of the Opuntia ficus indica (OFI) plant diminishes the inflammatory response to stressful stimuli. METHODS: In this double-blind, placebo-controlled, crossover trial, 64 healthy, young adult volunteers were randomly assigned to receive OFI (1600 IU) and identical placebo, given 5 hours before alcohol consumption. During 4 hours, subjects consumed up to 1.75 g of alcohol per kilogram of body weight. Hangover severity (9 symptoms) and overall well-being were assessed on a scale (0-6), and blood and urine samples were obtained the following morning. Two weeks later, the study protocol was repeated with OFI and placebo reversed. RESULTS: Fifty-five subjects completed both the OFI and placebo arms of the study. Three of the 9 symptoms-nausea, dry mouth, and anorexia-were significantly reduced by OFI (all P<.05). Overall, the symptom index was reduced by 2.7 points on average (95% confidence interval, -0.2 to 5.5; P =.07), and the risk of a severe hangover (>/=18 points) was reduced by half (odds ratio, 0.38; 95% confidence interval, 0.16-0.88; P =.02). C-reactive protein levels were strongly associated with hangover severity; the mean symptom index was 4.1 (95% confidence interval, 1.2-7.1; P =.007) higher in subjects with morning C-reactive protein levels greater than 1.0 mg/L. In addition, C-reactive protein levels were 40% higher after subjects consumed placebo compared with OFI. CONCLUSIONS: The symptoms of the alcohol hangover are largely due to the activation of inflammation. An extract of the OFI plant has a moderate effect on reducing hangover symptoms, apparently by inhibiting the production of inflammatory mediators.
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Old 12-20-2004, 10:53 AM   #12
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just stay hydrated and you won't be hung over. that is what i do before and durring beer festivals and i never get hung over. and if you don't get a hang over, there's no need to argue about what does and does not cure it.

alternating with a glass of water is what I do. sometimes i'll have a beer and a glass of water in front of me at the same time. drink a lot of water and you'll be alright. just be prepared to visit the pisser kind of often.

check this out. How To Prepare for a Beer Festival
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:15 AM   #13
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actually, it's very, very, very true. alcohol, in an amount equivalent to about half a beer, absolutely WILL help a hangover the next morning. i can show you the studies if you want not recommended by doctors for many obvious reasons, but it does work.

the collection of symptoms we call "hangover" are medically referred to as acute ethanol withdrawal symptoms... and of course, reversing the withdrawal (by consuming more alcohol) will reverse the symptoms that are directly caused by the withdrawal. it's not a perfect cure, as many of the symptoms are caused by inflammation of tissues and accumulation of impurities in the alcohol (so cheap booze is bad) and byproducts of alcohol metabolism, but it absolutely DOES help.

google it, and you'll find all kinds of medically inane "facts" all over the place... anti-alcohol agendas will say that DRINKING MORE ALCOHOL WILL NOT CURE A HANGOVER! some places say NOTHING WILL CURE IT; YOU JUST HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE ALCOHOL TO GET OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM! which is rubbish; the hangover persists long after BAC has hit zero. then you find advice to take chaser, or a ginger drink (which will help the nausea sensation a bit, but that's all it does!), or any number of other boneheaded things... on this one, stick to the "real" medical information, not the "educate yourself!" sites.

yeah, alternating with water or a gatorade-like-entity is a good idea... not magic, but it helps. i don't think massive amounts of sugar from several glasses of juice is the best idea, for several reasons. and anything with caffeine would also be counter-productive. but you can also load up on water/electrolytes when you get home; it's just about as good if you can remember to do it, and then stay up for another 1/2 hour or so to hit the bathroom before you crash
i can see by administering more of the drug you can reverse the withdrawl, but then you have to come down sometime.
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Old 12-20-2004, 11:42 AM   #14
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some people don't

seriously tho, yes, you do... the half-a-beer gets you through the worst of it, tho. it's not enough to really get you drunk, so you don't have to really recover from it. not a cure, but it helps.
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Old 12-21-2004, 03:38 PM   #15
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never tried this...but then again I only usually drink about 2 alcoholic beverages in one sitting...
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When I go to FL, NH or SD for bike week or any vacation, I do that all the time, you have too, your basically partying from the time you get up to the time you go to bed. I usually alternate with water though.
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