Results 1 to 22 of 22

Thread: How soon is too soon?

  1. #1
    Admiral Kevster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    6,133

    How soon is too soon?

    How soon is too soon to start introducing your little one to the classics? (you know: Tchaikovsky, Holst, Bach, Beethoven, Frampton, etc)

    I like to have the classics playing while I'm working or playing with little Annarchy, heck I even got her this little dude to help her musical skills (though I seem to be the one playing the tunes on it right now - I can play over 10 tunes on it's C-Major octave). At 3 months old, little Annarchy likes looking at him right now and watching me play something.

    Mrs. Kevster is not much a fan for the classics and she and I have had several small battles about them on the CD player already. Any ideas, comments or opinions?
    I think over again
    My small adventures, my fears.
    The small ones that seemed so big,
    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


    -old Inuit song

  2. #2
    Admiral renovation's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail
    Posts
    5,105
    the classics they say are great for young ones .now me i run and hide when there played! so i understand were the wifes coming from. i bet she is into music your not fond of to.
    You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail

  3. #3
    Admiral Kevster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    6,133
    Quote Originally Posted by renovation
    i bet she is into music your not fond of to.
    Actually, she and I have similar musical tastes, but I have a much wider range than she does. She generally likes listening to the local Jack FM station, if that gives you any clue as to her musical tastes. When we lived in LA she and I loved KROQ too.
    I think over again
    My small adventures, my fears.
    The small ones that seemed so big,
    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


    -old Inuit song

  4. #4
    The younger the better I say. If kids start at a very young age listening to what their parents like, as long as they like their parents, it usually tends to rub off on them and they will listen to some of the same things later on.

    My dad had a very wide range of musical tastes, and I have carried that on also.


  5. #5
    Fleet Admiral
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    In a nutshell
    Posts
    9,678
    WOW! I'm impressed!...what you should do (as not to aggravate Mrs. Kevster) is to set aside one day for nothing but classics..When my grandparents were alive, NO ONE was allowed to speak English on Sundays when we were all at their house and the only music allowed was my grandpa's mandolin or Enrico Caruso playing on their record player. It was kind of a bitch because in our house, the only Italian we used was when we didn't want the neighbor kids to know what we were saying...otherwise it was English. However, On Sundays, we kept the tradition of Italian classics playing on the record player. When I grew up, in my own house, with my own kids, we did the same thing..big family dinner, only Italian or Classical music playing..absolutely NO TV..it was the one day tha my kids hated because they couldn't listen to black sabbath, etc...but now that they are grown..they do the same thing in their own places..
    It's a good tradition to keep. While the Italian has slipped away and is only brought out when my brothers or aunts and uncles are over..it's still a tradition to have the one day a week for the "special music" that meant so much to my Grandparents and Parents. So the answer to your question is..it's NEVER too soon!
    Last edited by oblongmelon; 08-28-2007 at 03:51 PM.

  6. #6
    Rear Admiral Upper Half Maarchk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Where the east meets the west.
    Posts
    3,067
    I was going to say it, but obby was on top of it. Just pick a time or a day and go with one, and then go with the other. If she goes shopping on saturdays or some how is away for a long period of time, thats probably the best time to go with stuff she doesn't like.

    Classics are supposed to be good for pre-born children, so you are already late! hehe but i think playing that music at any age can be beneficial. Those songs actually have a flow of more than 30 seconds. good for curing the ADD we all have as young people.. And when i say we, i mean i.
    "The girl is crafty like ice is cold."

    "I left my heart in san francisco... And my liver at Moe's Tavern."

    A real friend is one who listens to you as much as they talk to you.

  7. #7
    Admiral ArkiStan's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2000
    Location
    Recession Central
    Posts
    5,898
    I don't believe it's ever too early. But I'd be cautious of producing a musical snob. It will be priceless for a child to appreciate the expressive depth of classical music, but make sure to teach her to be open-minded and that there are many other wonderful genres of music out there, even if they don't immediately seem to be as sophisticated as Beethoven. I personally believe there is no inherently good/bad music. There is only music that you enjoy/don't enjoy.

  8. #8
    Rear Admiral Lower Half The Happy Squirrel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    the castle beyond the goblin city
    Posts
    2,914
    its never too soon. PUt headphones on the wifes tummy while shes pregnant if you can. the music is wonderful for all ages.
    Lion face / lemon face!

  9. #9
    Rear Admiral Lower Half uncledaddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    With Me, Myself, and I...wondering why we can't get along!
    Posts
    2,583
    Quote Originally Posted by The Happy Squirrel
    its never too soon. PUt headphones on the wifes tummy while shes pregnant if you can. the music is wonderful for all ages.
    Was gonna say the same. Wasn't there a study done where Classical was played while mother was still pregnant showing "improved" taste in the arts?

  10. #10
    Admiral Memo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    East Village
    Posts
    5,659
    I would not set aside a time or anything to force feed her classical listening. I think the best route would be to just listen to classical music while you're at home and just enjoy it yourself. If she is inclined to liking that sort of music she will pick up on it and even if she isn't, everyone has some classical piece they enjoy. At worst, she'll associate some happy moments with certain pieces. Force feeding a child classical music is a good way to make them hate it.

  11. #11
    Chief of Naval Operations brainsmile's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2000
    Location
    woah... why is welfareloser here with me so early in the morning and more importantly why am I wearing her clothes?!?
    Posts
    13,761
    My 6 year old knows all the composers but then he's been a violinist for 2 years now
    **********************************
    DCM #1 (Founder)





    "Nobody beats Vitus Gerulaitis 18 times in a row." - Vitus Gerulaitis on beating Jimmy Connors after 17 failed attempts.

  12. #12
    Chief of Naval Operations Nija's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    City of The Dead
    Posts
    13,561
    As soon as the doctor says it's ok for you guys to bump uglies I say go for it.

    Wut?

    "Nija is the dark soul of gotapex. We don't like to talk about him." - LPMiller

  13. #13
    Rear Admiral Lower Half The Happy Squirrel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    the castle beyond the goblin city
    Posts
    2,914
    Quote Originally Posted by uncledaddy
    Was gonna say the same. Wasn't there a study done where Classical was played while mother was still pregnant showing "improved" taste in the arts?

    yes ther was.
    it was shown to improve overall development in all areas language, mtor skills, and fine arts taste. <except all the kids came out with a predisposition to liza minelli, an unfortunate side effect >
    Last edited by The Happy Squirrel; 08-30-2007 at 04:44 AM.
    Lion face / lemon face!

  14. #14
    Rear Admiral Upper Half Maarchk's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    Where the east meets the west.
    Posts
    3,067
    I keep waiting for this tread to read "How soon is now" by the smiths...

    Start that music already, why are we still in discussions... This should be action time.
    "The girl is crafty like ice is cold."

    "I left my heart in san francisco... And my liver at Moe's Tavern."

    A real friend is one who listens to you as much as they talk to you.

  15. #15
    Rear Admiral Lower Half uncledaddy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    With Me, Myself, and I...wondering why we can't get along!
    Posts
    2,583
    Quote Originally Posted by The Happy Squirrel
    yes ther was.
    i was shown to improve overall development in all areas language, mtor skills, and fine arts taste. <except all the kids came out with a predisposition to liza minelli, an unfortunate side effect >

  16. #16
    Disney's Fantasia. That is all.

  17. #17
    A Friend of a Friend yippiekiyeh's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2001
    Location
    WESTSIDE!
    Posts
    1,673
    It is never too soon to share culture with your kids. They may not understand it too much when they're young. But when they are older, they will appreciate it.
    Distributed.Net
    I'm Trying this blogger thang...

  18. #18
    Rear Admiral Upper Half WhiskeyPapa's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2000
    Location
    45° 11' 35" North Latitude, 95° 8' 37" West Longitude
    Posts
    3,432
    I introduce my kids to the classics as soon as they can hold the Atari 2600 joystick.

    Super Breakout, Pong, Yar's Revenge. The classics.

  19. #19
    Admiral Kevster's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2002
    Location
    NorCal
    Posts
    6,133
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiskeyPapa
    I introduce my kids to the classics as soon as they can hold the Atari 2600 joystick.

    Super Breakout, Pong, Yar's Revenge. The classics.
    You know, I was thinking about this too. I was wondering how old she'd have to be to start her first classic RTS (C&C, Starcraft), since I'd probably start her on analog turn-based strategy games (checkers and/or chess) or maybe even an analog multi-player turn-based strategy game (monopoly). So many possibilities....
    I think over again
    My small adventures, my fears.
    The small ones that seemed so big,
    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


    -old Inuit song

  20. #20
    Optimus Prime Freelance Superhero's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2002
    Location
    in bed
    Posts
    4,116
    Quote Originally Posted by ray
    Disney's Fantasia. That is all.
    Speaking of which, my first introduction to many classical masterpieces were the old Disney and Warner Bros. cartoons. Maybe that would be a good way to introduce them to your little one, Kevster.

    EDIT:
    Here's an interesting site that lists several classic cartoons and the musical pieces featured in them:

    http://www.thomasvillecentral.com/musWB.htm
    Last edited by Freelance Superhero; 08-31-2007 at 02:51 PM.
    "I can't believe you can eat that; it looks like abortion." - Augusta, of the Tard-Blog

  21. #21
    Chief of Naval Operations Markel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2001
    Posts
    11,874
    Infants should be introduced to classical music no more than 9 months before they are born.
    stay low... keep moving...

  22. #22
    Commander thresher's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    St.Augustine FL. Plymouth Rock is a newbie!
    Posts
    1,223
    By the age of 3 I was a HUGE Beethoven fan. Still am some 30-something years later. Cat Stevens was the first "Classic" I introduced to my neices/nephew. Now, at ages 6/5/4 they know all the words to all his songs. My folks (who are raising them) are thrilled that the kids like one of "the classics". Next: the Beatles. It's gonna be a while before they get some Pink Floyd. Like maybe 10 more years.

    But, I agree with Markel 100%!
    Wait a second... you're telling me Sixpac Shakur is a CHICK?

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •