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    Doctor warns consumers of popcorn fumes

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    Consumers, not just factory workers, may be in danger from fumes from buttery flavoring in microwave popcorn, according to a warning letter to federal regulators from a doctor at a leading lung research hospital.

    A pulmonary specialist at Denver's National Jewish Medical and Research Center has written to federal agencies to say doctors there believe they have the first case of a consumer who developed lung disease from the fumes of microwaving popcorn several times a day for years.

    "We cannot be sure that this patient's exposure to butter flavored microwave popcorn from daily heavy preparation has caused his lung disease," cautioned Dr. Cecile Rose. "However, we have no other plausible explanation."

    The July letter, made public Tuesday by a public health policy blog, refers to a potentially fatal disease commonly called popcorn lung that has been the subject of lawsuits by hundreds of workers at food factories exposed to chemicals used for flavoring.

    In response to Rose's finding, the Flavor and Extract Manufacturers Association issued a statement Tuesday recommending that its members reduce "to the extent possible" the amount of diacetyl in butter flavorings they make. It noted that diacetyl is approved for use in flavors by the federal Food and Drug Administration.

    One national popcorn manufacturer, Weaver Popcorn Co. of Indianapolis, said last week it would replace the butter flavoring ingredient because of consumer concern. Congress has also been debating new safety measures for workers in food processing plants exposed to diacetyl.

    The FDA said in an e-mail it is evaluating Rose's letter and "carefully considering the safety and regulatory issues it raises."

    Fred Blosser, spokesman for the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health, said it is the first case the institute has seen of lung disease apparently linked to popcorn fumes outside the workplace.

    The occupational safety arm of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said it is working on a response to the letter.

    William Allstetter, spokesman for National Jewish Medical, confirmed the letter was sent by Rose, a specialist in occupational and environmental lung diseases and director of the hospital's Occupational and Environmental Medicine Clinic.

    "There have been no other cases that we know of other than the industrial occupational ones," Allstetter said.

    Rose acknowledged in the letter that it is difficult to confirm through one case that popping buttered microwave popcorn at home can cause lung disease.

    However, she said she wanted to alert regulators of the potential public health implications.

    Rose said the ailing patient, a man whom she wouldn't identify, consumed "several bags of extra butter flavored microwave popcorn" every day for several years.

    He described progressively worsening respiratory symptoms of coughing and shortness of breath. Tests found his ability to exhale was deteriorating, Rose said, although his condition seemed to stabilize after he quit using microwave popcorn.

    She said her staff measured airborne levels of diacetyl in the patient's home when he cooked the popcorn. The levels were "similar to those reported in the microwave oven exhaust area" at the quality assurance unit of the popcorn plant where the affected employees worked, she said.

    David Michaels, of the George Washington University School of Public Health, who first published Rose's letter on his blog, The Pump Handle, said the finding is another reason for federal regulators to crack down on diacetyl exposure by workers and consumers.

    "This letter is a red flag, suggesting that exposure to food flavor chemicals is not just killing workers, but may also be causing disease in people exposed to food flavor chemicals in their kitchens," Michaels wrote on his public health policy blog.

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    I avoid it just because it smells awful. Real butter FTW.
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    "Several bags a day"? Wow, I have maybe several a year. Beware popcorn junkies.

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    Yeah, I hate to be a scaremonger but after reading up on the dangers of microwave popcorn, I haven't had any since.

    If the Diacetyl doesn't get you, maybe the PFOA will:
    Microwave popcorn bags are made of paper, but the inside of the bag has to be coated with something that will repel grease and moisture to prevent the bag from becoming a soggy mess while it’s whirling and popping in your microwave oven. When the mix of chemicals used to coat microwave bags is heated, some compounds are known to break down into a substance called perfluorooctanoic acid (PFOA).
    Here’s the bad news: According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, PFOA has been identified as a “likely carcinogen”.
    http://www.thehealthierlife.co.uk/ar...r-popcorn.html

    Not to mention artery clogging.
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    I avoid artificial stuff and prepared foods as much as is practical for exactly this reason.

    I actually prefer air popped popcorn without anything on it. Can't stand the greasiness and saltiness of crap put on it, or the fakeness of the microwave stuff.
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    hasn't killed me yet . i keep popping my extra butter popcorn in the micro till the day i die . or they stop making the stuff.
    im sorry but im a firm beleaver in. sooner or later they find. everything you eat or love to eat will kill you
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    Well, it's true that we are all dying and should live life to its fullest but isn't there something to be said about quality of life. I like my lungs nice and healthy.
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    I can't stand butter on popcorn anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by renovation
    hasn't killed me yet . i keep popping my extra butter popcorn in the micro till the day i die . or they stop making the stuff.
    im sorry but im a firm beleaver in. sooner or later they find. everything you eat or love to eat will kill you
    But it probably has indeed killed your taste buds. If you eat a lot of that stuff all the time but were able to cut it out for a while I bet all food would start tasting better and more flavorful to you.
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    To heck with the nuked stuff.....bring on the Kettle Korn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon54
    But it probably has indeed killed your taste buds. If you eat a lot of that stuff all the time but were able to cut it out for a while I bet all food would start tasting better and more flavorful to you.
    could'nt say eather way i may zap a box every 3-5 months .when i buy the carton most of it .ends up going to work with the wife so she and the other nurse's she works with . snack on it at night. 12 hour shifts and only one 1/2 lunch if that. lots of time there to bizzy to even get break .so they can zap a bag and grab it while writing reports !
    some popcorn facts
    Corny Facts
    Americans consume some 17 billion quarts of this whole grain, good-for-you treat. That’s 54 quarts per man, woman, and child.


    Compared to most snack foods, popcorn is low in calories. Air-popped popcorn has only 31 calories per cup. Oil-popped is only 55 per cup.


    Popcorn is a type of maize (or corn), a member of the grass family, and is scientifically known as Zea mays everta.


    Of the 6 types of maize/corn—pod, sweet, flour, dent, flint, and popcorn—only popcorn pops.


    Popcorn is a whole grain. It is made up of three components: the germ, endosperm, and pericarp (also know as the hull).


    Popcorn needs between 13.5-14% moisture to pop.

    Popcorn differs from other types of maize/corn in that is has a thicker pericarp/hull. The hull allows pressure from the heated water to build and eventually bursts open. The inside starch becomes gelatinous while being heated; when the hull bursts, the gelatinized starch spills out and cools, giving it its familiar popcorn shape.


    Most U.S. popcorn is grown in the Midwest, primarily in Indiana, Nebraska, Ohio, Illinois, Iowa, Kentucky and Missouri.


    Many people believe the acres of corn they see in the Midwest during growing season could be picked and eaten for dinner, or dried and popped. In fact, those acres are typically field corn, which is used largely for livestock feed, and differs from both sweet corn and popcorn.


    The peak period for popcorn sales for home consumption is in the fall.


    Most popcorn comes in two basic shapes when it's popped: snowflake and mushroom. Snowflake is used in movie theaters and ballparks because it looks and pops bigger. Mushroom is used for candy confections because it doesn't crumble.


    Popping popcorn is one of the number one uses for microwave ovens. Most microwave ovens have a “popcorn” control button.


    “Popability” is popcorn lingo that refers to the percentage of kernels that pop.


    There is no such thing as “hull-less” popcorn. All popcorn needs a hull in order to pop. Some varieties of popcorn have been bred so the hull shatters upon popping, making it appear to be hull-less.


    How high popcorn kernels can pop? Up to 3 feet in the air.


    The world's largest popcorn ball, as measured by the Guinness Book of World Records: 12 feet in diameter, containing 2,000 pounds of corn, 40,000 pounds of sugar, 280 gallons of corn syrup and 400 gallons of water.


    If you made a trail of popcorn from New York City to Los Angeles, you would need more than 352,028,160 popped kernels!

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    My Aunt used to work for gilster-mary lee she would bring home popcorn or cakes or 5 lb bags of cookie mixs. Today, she is on oxygen with a lot of health issues. Doctors believe it is from working at Gilster's. Not only the popcorn, but breathing in the flour and other ingredients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrissy
    My Aunt used to work for gilster-mary lee she would bring home popcorn or cakes or 5 lb bags of cookie mixs. Today, she is on oxygen with a lot of health issues. Doctors believe it is from working at Gilster's. Not only the popcorn, but breathing in the flour and other ingredients.
    I sort of posted this as a lighter side thread. I didn't realize that the effects are as real as it states.

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    I used to drive by the Gilster- Mary Lee plant when I was a drug runner (legally for a pharmacy ) and the butter smell was VERY strong in the valley the company resided.

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    OK, I loves me some good microwave popcorn, but several bags a day is a little much....

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    I say several bags a year is too much. There are well documented cases of popcorn factory workers getting sick.
    Popcorn Lung
    At the very least, the lives and the saftey of the factory workers are worth quitting microwave popcorn. This is how the free market is supposed to work right? I don't mean to come off as dramatic as I do.
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    Guess I'll stick to the "Smartfood" and "Cape Cod White Cheddar" popcorn sold in snack bags at my local convenience store.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon54
    But it probably has indeed killed your taste buds. If you eat a lot of that stuff all the time but were able to cut it out for a while I bet all food would start tasting better and more flavorful to you.

    So does getting shot at and living... Everything is brighter and tastier... Doesn't mean thats the road i'm going down.

    I think whats her name said it best... Avoidance of risk in the long run has the same dangers of outright exposure...

    But Jenny has a point that living and breathing the stuff day in and out will most likely harm you badly. All things in moderation.
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    Eating microwave popcorn leaves my throat feeling coated afterwards- and not in a good way. I don't eat it anymore.
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    All this really proves is that anything in excess is bad for you. If you eat microwave popcorn like a normal person (once a week or once a month even) You won't be seeing any problems from it.

    If you are eating it 3-4 bags a day, of course you could have a problem.


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    microwave butter popcorn goes through my colon like a freight train on fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LPMiller
    microwave butter popcorn goes through my colon like a freight train on fire.
    How many frieght trains on fire have been through your colon LP? Hmmmm... sounds serious.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LPMiller
    microwave butter popcorn goes through my colon like a freight train on fire.
    I could have gone my whole life without that nugget of information and been no worse for the wear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LPMiller
    You never know what you might need to know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LPMiller
    microwave butter popcorn goes through my colon like a freight train on fire.
    LOL

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