Nadya Suleman, the California woman who gave birth to octuplets last month, squared off against her own mother in a 30-minute face-to-face debate videotaped last week by the Web site RadarOnline.com, which posted a portion of the face-off on Monday.
"I'm not going to destroy the embryos, period. Done, done, done," Nadya Suleman tells her mother, Angela Suleman, during their often-heated conversation.
"You can't go back and alter the past," says Nadya.
Though their talk frequently becomes an outright debate – with Nadya repeatedly talking over her mother and telling her to "stop stagnating" – Angela stresses that other options were available to Nadya.
"They were frozen and you did not have to do anything," Angela Suleman says in reference to the embryos – prompting Nadya to respond, "They were lives. You either use them or destroy them."
Nadya says she would never have considered donating the embryos to someone else. "I couldn't even fathom the idea of having my own children out in the world … and not know them," she states.
But, her mother says, "You should have considered your six other children." Of the newborns, the grandmother adds, "I feel sorry for them."
Nadya replies that there is no reason to feel sorry for the babies, who are "healthy and thriving."
On Tuesday's Today show, Radar.com senior executive editor Chris Myers was asked if his Web site paid the Sulemans to appear on camera. Myers responded, "We did not pay for the interview."