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    I have decided that the adage about all car salesman being the scum of the earth is true. There is nothing lower than a car salesman. Nothing. Not even pond scum.

    I spent the entire weekend looking for 2 cars, for me and my girlfriend, and finally we found 1 for her. It was a '96 Acrua Integra RS but fully loaded. It was "priced" at $14,238 (supposedly blue book) and slashed to $13,500.

    The car was in good condition with only a few things that needed to be repaired, such as the passenger side door had the leather peeling off, some minor paint chips, there was some condensation in the headlights, the leather was pulled out from under one of the seat releases and head rests, and the back seat was pulled up a bit. Other than that it was in good condition. The salesman told us that he would easily drop another $1500 off ot the car and give us wholesale value on her car. That being on the table we had to leave but said we would be back the next day.

    We came back the next day and went to find the salesman. He was out on a test drive with another customer, so another salesman offered to take us for the test drive and then hand us off. Not only did he never hand us back, but he wouldnt get anywhere near the price that the other salesman promised. He would only take the car down to $12,700 and give no more than $1500 for the trade in. (the car wholesale books out for $2250, and retails for $4225) Plus the reason we didnt grab the car the first night was because it was dark, we had to get somewhere, and I wanted to get the true book on the car. The was booked high at $14,500 (if perfect) and booked low at right around $10,000. Thus in the condition that it was in it should have gone for no more than what the first salesperson offered.

    We told the salesman that we were both full time students in law school and for whatever reason he couldnt keep that fact in his head, tells us that is why we arent reaching a deal, trys to explain community property to someone who got a 3.8 in the damn class, and says it completely wrong. Then he reacts like an idiot when my girlfriend explained that she didnt work because she didnt need to work, she had a co-signer available and could make the payments without any problems. The guy became a complete jerk and we finally walked.

    Every other car salesman we have dealt with has been similarly idiotic. I figure it has to do with the fact that if you have a college degree you are not allowed to sell cars. There might also be an IQ requirement of 100 or lower. I dont get why if you tell them that you wont fit in a car, they argue with you and make you prove them wrong. The same goes for me saying, I dont like the looks of that car, I would never buy it. That should let them know that I am not interested so dont waste your time trying.

    I dont get the logic there. I just dont get it. I am so annoyed that I would honestly knee cap every single one that I dealt with over the past few months for either being dumb, having an attitude, or just judgmental.

    That is just my experience.

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    Amen, brother. There's nothing worse than a car salesman. Well, I'm sure there are a couple of things worse, but not many.

    I've bought about 10 new cars in the past 12 years, and I've met maybe one or two salesmen I would go back to. The thing that kills me is the fact that I have to talk to a sales guy at all. Why can't I just enter the specs I want for my new car somewhere and go pick it up? Noooo - I have to hear about how I'm a moron if I don't pay an extra $1000 for rust proofing. Or about how much of a wuss I am because I have to talk with my wife before making a purchase. Buncha morons, the lot of them!

    My next car's going to be a Saturn, just so I can order it on the website and not talk to a frigging salesperson!

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    Can't you buy new cars over the 'net via Amazon.com?

    Or are they closing off that division too?

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    Can't you buy new cars over the 'net via Amazon.com?

    Or are they closing off that division too?
    Yes you can, I just did it a month ago. It was fast and painless. I had shopped around at local dealers and got pricing and then checked Amazon, their pricing was better and it was much easier that dealing with a salesman.

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    If you are going to be buying used, make sure you check the history on a place like Carfax.com.

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    my sister got her new subaru from priceline.com, but that was last year. she actually got one first directly from a dealer, and then she couldn't get financing so she had to bring it back. anyway, the salesman was an ass, thats why she got the car. he told her she would get the financing with no problem, and i guess she got to take the car before she was actually accepted with the stipulation that if she didn't get the loan, then she had to bring the car back. so she got to drive a brand new car for two weeks for free

    anyway, a month later she decided to try her luck on priceline.com, and she got a really good price, and didn't have to deal with a salesperson.

    also, i just got my saturn two months ago, and my saleswoman was nice, but FLAKEY!! and they did sorta try to pressure me to get a "demo" that was on the lot instead of waiting for the car that i wanted to come in. but they weren't nearly as bad as the "what do i have to do to get you to take this car home tonight?" nissan guy. he was an ASS!
    i'd rather be down the shore
    OH SNAP! guess where I am?

    I was living down the jersey shore before Jersey Shore.

    How does anyone even watch that show???

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    Yeah, I actually already own a Saturn & the salesperson was one of the few that were decent. Not like the bastards at Oldsmobile who wouldn't look at or talk to my wife when we were looking at cars for HER! Apparently only men understand how to buy a car....

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    Originally posted by styleee
    my sister got her new subaru from priceline.com
    What kind of Subaru? The new WRX is pretty fast, though some would consider it ugly...




    http://www.caranddriver.com/xp/Caran...02_impreza.xml

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    i was actually reading about that car in one of my brother's car magazines this weekend. it looks so cool

    anyway, no, she just has an outback sport like this one only blue


    that car is so cool, i love it. if i won the lottery, i would get one and then make it into a real rally car. heeheeehee.

    i'll be a race car driver, one day, i hope.
    i'd rather be down the shore
    OH SNAP! guess where I am?

    I was living down the jersey shore before Jersey Shore.

    How does anyone even watch that show???

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    Originally posted by Jeffbx
    Yeah, I actually already own a Saturn & the salesperson was one of the few that were decent. Not like the bastards at Oldsmobile who wouldn't look at or talk to my wife when we were looking at cars for HER! Apparently only men understand how to buy a car....
    Must be a new guy. Most salespeople know that although men are more prone to impulse-purchases, women are the ones who control the purse-strings...

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    Originally posted by Leon
    Originally posted by styleee
    my sister got her new subaru from priceline.com
    What kind of Subaru? The new WRX is pretty fast, though some would consider it ugly...
    For some reason it seems that Subaru got all their styling people from Korean auto-makers or something. Look at them huge fog lights!

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    Got Fog Lights?


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    Originally posted by Leon
    Got Fog Lights?


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    Originally posted by styleee
    that car is so cool, i love it. if i won the lottery, i would get one and then make it into a real rally car. heeheeehee.

    i'll be a race car driver, one day, i hope.

    If you won the lottery, you would buy the Subaru WRX STi Type RA, which is already a real rally car. America, as usual, gets the neutered version of the WRX.

    WRX STi Type RA:




    OR you could get (my personal favorite) the Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII:




    drooooooooooooooooooooool

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    that Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII has kind of a Mustang inspired design, dont you think?

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    Hmm...




    Come to think of it...

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    I've always thought the Lancer was out before the (current generation) Mustang.

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