cruelpupet 03-07-2012 10:00 AM
2012 Delegate Snapshot

With 33% (743 of 2286) of the delegates assigned, here are the numbers

Romney: 56% - 415
Sanatorum: 24% - 176
Newt: 14% - 105
Paul: 6% - 47

So at this point I think we can call it for Romney, and despite the medias insistence, I dont think he will need any back room deals to secure other nominee's delegates.

With the current numbers Romney can drop to only securing 48% of future delegates, and just make it over the required 1144.

cruelpupet 03-07-2012 10:03 AM
What I find more interesting, though I may be wrong since I dont watch cable/broadcast tv, is that it seems people are tired of the GOP Primary.

"Super Tuesday" passed and it wasn't until around 11PM that I finally heard something about it when I checked twitter. Not one person at work has mentioned it, I saw nothing on FB either.

mcs328 03-07-2012 11:22 AM
In Va, there were only 2 candidates. I was surprised Ron Paul got 40% and so many people were at work.

I would like Romney to be the GOP nominee but my bet is still on Obama in November.

cruelpupet 03-07-2012 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mcs328
I would like Romney to be the GOP nominee but my bet is still on Obama in November.

That's a pretty smart bet. I really dont see how any republican can win, especially now.

If the base isnt excited with anyone, how can you expect moderates or independents to be?

Thesifer 03-08-2012 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by cruelpupet
That's a pretty smart bet. I really dont see how any republican can win, especially now.

If the base isnt excited with anyone, how can you expect moderates or independents to be?

Honestly, while it would be delusional to think Republicans will vote for Obama if they don't like their candidate, I think the more likely scenario is that we just have a really low voter turnout, at least on the Republican side of things. Barring any currently unforseen major shifts in the way things are going.

mcs328 03-08-2012 10:25 AM
If Romney wins in November, then I think the bullseye will me healthcare modeled after his own in Mass. Next will be his religion lumped into other ones that aren't traditionally Republican.

If Obama wins, it'll be more of the same.

Thesifer 03-08-2012 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by mcs328
If Romney wins in November, then I think the bullseye will me healthcare modeled after his own in Mass. Next will be his religion lumped into other ones that aren't traditionally Republican.

If Obama wins, it'll be more of the same.

Hopefully. Overall I'm happy with most of Obama's first term. There are some things he has done that I disagree with. But those were all supported by Republicans, so it wouldn't change or would get worse with a Republican President.

Also hoping to pick up seats in the House and maybe even the Senate if things keep going the way they are going with Republicans. The "Kick out anyone that has slightly different views" mentality will continue to hurt Republicans.

Republicans have moved right on a larger scale than anytime in history. Democrats have moved .. well.. Right as well, just not nearly as much or as quickly. Some of them did move a little more left, but on a really small scale.

Obama is ranked as the most moderate Democrat in the last 60 years, would like to see him get more liberal.



mcs328 03-09-2012 07:46 AM
The only thing that irks me is the mandatory health care Obama has. I *mean* I should read it but like most people I get my info filtered down by newspapers and the Daily Show.

My issue is the same as before in 2008. We got problems and no talk/actions of solutions. This is case especially for Republicans who like to point out the fires but no one is grabbing a bucket or a hose. my perception anyways.

cruelpupet 03-09-2012 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mcs328
hose

Really? Did you not learn anything from Limbaugh? That's not a nice word to use to describe our gov't officials. The PC term is "Legislative volunteer who happens to accept donations."

Thesifer 03-09-2012 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by mcs328
The only thing that irks me is the mandatory health care Obama has. I *mean* I should read it but like most people I get my info filtered down by newspapers and the Daily Show.

My issue is the same as before in 2008. We got problems and no talk/actions of solutions. This is case especially for Republicans who like to point out the fires but no one is grabbing a bucket or a hose. my perception anyways.

I would have much rather had a single-payer or Public option system honestly. And the system we have (Republican Idea) will eventually lead to that, if they get their way. Irony.

The "Mandatory" purchase of healthcare was a Republican plan that would make it 'acceptable' to Insurance Companies to remove Lifetime Caps, and Pre-existing Conditions.

If the Republicans (who are suddenly against it, because the Democrats seem to be for it) actually get their way, and get it overturned, it will be the end of insurance companies as we know them.

And then the government will be forced to step in.

They won't be able to get the entire Health Care legislation overturned in court, and they won't be able to repeal it - no matter how much they scream they're going to. So when they remove the mandatory purchase (which could theoretically be possible through the Supreme court) they will just bring about what they fear the most. Government Healthcare.

Prngr44 03-12-2012 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by mcs328
If Obama wins, it'll be more of the same.

I don't think it really matters WHO wins, it's going to be more of the same. As long as one party doesn't control both the Senate & House, their only common denominator will be gridlock with little progress.

Where Obama failed was during the years he had that control. He decided to try and be the great Compromiser and eventually had it stuck right up his...