After 4 weekends of test driving different makes and models, finally bought a car. 8 hours of grueling negotiations. So tired now.
After 4 weekends of test driving different makes and models, finally bought a car. 8 hours of grueling negotiations. So tired now.
8 hours?? Great googly moogly. What took so long??
He had other customers while we were negotiating and my wife was on the phone with a sales guy for a Toyota dealership. So we were negotiating on price mostly. I wasn't budging unless he threw in stuff. 1 hour was for signing paper work after we agreed to a price.
congrats! what was your other option when you were on the phone with toyota?
The other option was a Toyota Camry XLE V6. The TL has an 8" non-touchscreen and the Camry had a 6" touchscreen. Performance was about same.
Did you have to walk out or threaten to walk at all?
Just curious. I bought my truck in October '10 and it was a fairly painful negotiating process as well, but nowhere NEAR as long as you spent. I was firm on my price as well but gave in $300 for "$1000" in options (backup sensors and hitch. Who sells a truck without a hitch???)
What REALLY pissed me off about the transaction was that it include "Lifetime oil changes" as long as I owned the vehicle. The dealership is a little out of my way to work and adds about 15-20 mins of drive time to swing by there but I figured I'd see how this oil change business was because free is free. Right?
Well, "free" oil changes only include 5 quarts of oil. Ohhhhh, sorry; your truck takes 7 quarts of oil. We're going to have to charge you for those 2 extra quarts and also charge you extra for synthetic on all 7 quarts. I left and never looked back. I thought that was one of THE most BS things I'd ever encountered at a dealership.
/rant
Curious, why is anyone "negotiating" on a new car. Plug the info into truecar.com and you can see exactly how low they will generally go. I ended up canceling my order (delivry date kept slipping) on my VW Golf TDi, but the site was spot on.
Am I alone here? Is that it?
Am I the only one who sees.
Maybe we can learn to be just like him.
Wear a little uniform.
Yes, sir.
No, sir.
Thank you, sir.
I did research the truecar price but didn't use it to order and I got it under $1000 less from the target price. So YMMV. I threatened that I would buy the Camry the next day if I couldn't get the TL that day. We told them we've been looking for 3 weeks or more and tested all the cars we were interested in. Narrowed down our choices and looking to buy that weekend or the following month when we come back from vacation. I told the guy I didn't think the TL was worth $8-9 premium over the Camry that was specced out the same. I think if I actually got up out of my seat then I could have gotten a few hundred more off.
are last 3 new cars were Saturn- 1999 3 door Sport coupe,2 Saturn Vue's a 2002 and 2008 . (still own both Vue's ) we got GM employee discounts (sister in law GM employee) there really was no dealing . it was pick the car with the package you like and this is the price .no haggling on Saturn . unless you got some over priced deal install option and that was not in are case.
I still love my 2002 Saturn vue . the 2008 Saturn Vue if the wife was not so attached to it .plus were trying to keep from having a car payment. i'd trade it in for a replacement. when saturn stop being its own car company .it was the writing on the wall that it was done. the 2008 has been to the shop a lot . the 2002 been great needing very little repairs and a lot of warn parts i have replaced on it was my fault from over loading it. 1999 saturn was problem free but we felt it was to small for us .
Last edited by renovation; 05-25-2012 at 10:35 PM.
You could pick up Lindsay Lohan for less than a intel 990x, and still have money left over to bail her outta jail
Oh I miss Saturn! I had an SL for a few years, an Aura (which was amazing) & just got rid of the Vue. They should have spun them off to Penske like they were proposing. :-(
Although I have to say, when I got rid of the Vue it was one of the best dealership experiences I've had. I wanted to go back to a sedan (I didn't like driving an SUV every day), but I do need AWD in the winter. So my only requirements were an AWD sedan from a US mfr (since I get discounts at all of them). That kind of narrowed it down to a Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger, Buick LaCrosse, Ford Taurus or Fusion (within my price range). This was in November, so end of the year discounts were happening as well.
I wasn't about to drive a Buick (I'm not THAT old), but I get the best discount at GM so I started looking at them. What I REALLY liked, though, was the Cadillac CTS - but that was $5k+ more than the Buick, so I just assumed it was out of my price range (I wanted a lease that was ~$350/mo).
So just for kicks, I went to the dealership to look and holy crap did they want me to take a car home. Special rebates, end of the year discounts, extra discount because I was turning in another GM lease. Came out to $347/mo w/$800 out of pocket for taxes, plates, 1st month, etc. I was like SOLD, but I have to turn my lease in 1st & had not gotten an inspection yet. Well, that was another whole issue to deal with (never lease through US Bank, BTW - huge pain in the rear). So it was almost a month before I had that mess straightened out. I went back to the dealer & the sales guy says , "Let me just run the numbers again to make sure we're still at the same price...", and I'm like OK, here we go. Now he's going to come back at $400/mo.
"Well, they're not EXACTLY the same as last month." I KNEW IT. "It seems there's an extra incentive this month where GM is paying the destination charge plus some other small things for you, so that drops your price to $317/mo. Oh and this was for a 24 month lease." I could not get the paperwork signed fast enough. Sticker price on the car was almost exactly $40k and I'm paying less than 1% of that each month for a lease, which is unheard of, and I've been leasing cars for a LONG time. Oh, and free maintenance (ACTUALLY free, non Prngr44's experience above) - free oil changes, tire rotations & general maintenance for the first 40k miles, which is a Cadillac standard for all of their cars. No negotiations or haggling involved, and the amazing thing was that I didn't even have to use the GM discount certificate - all of these incentives were available to anyone. They must want a lot of these cars on the road.
Smells like GM is bloated with gubment subsidies and they need to meet their assigned sales metrics.Originally Posted by Jeffbx
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