Free Videos on depression & panic disorder

[mysterX]

http://www.zoloft.com/request1.htm

[TheLoneGunman]

OMIGOSH!!

OMIGOSH!!


OH MY GOSH!!!

I was just in a total panic. I didn't know where I would find a free video. I figured it would never happen, I just thought I would kill myself...
no one loves me enough to give me a free video...
I just can't go on....

But now I can.

Thanks

[Mike7]

I know that TheLoneGunman is just trying to be funny, so I'm not going to take too seriously what was meant as a joke, but the truth of the matter is that panic disorders and depressive disorders really do afflict many people. And cause an enormous amount of pain -- ranging from failed marriages, to chronic unemployment, to suicide.

BTW, simply being scared about something does not a panic disorder make. Nor is occasionally being sad about something evidence that one has a problem with clinical depression.

If a free video makes the difference in convincing someone to seek help for a serious problem, I'm all for it.

[andytseng]

yea... sorry that wasn't really funny Lone

[TheLoneGunman]

These videos are distributed by the company that produces Zoloft (Pfizer). Pfizer spends millions to convince people that they need their drugs. If you are in the medical field or have friends/relatives there, you will see all the paraphenalia from them and their competitors. This is big business.

They are not suggesting that people get counseling, they are not offering free remedies to the poor, they are asking you to buy drugs.

It sucks to be depressed, but there are many types of medicine, including both drugs and humor. Perhaps someone read my comments and was able to look at their situation and laugh and maybe that gave them a better perspective. If someone wanted to take drugs, they wouldn't really need a video to sell them on it.

I have personally known many people on Zoloft and none of them claimed to be "cured" by the drug. If it was such a wonder drug, why would they need to sell it so hard? After all, you don't see hard sell videos for penicillin.

P.S. I have actually worked for Pfizer before. (I was a lab subject who tested a new medication to prevent brain damage during a stroke). Hopefully my assistance has helped many people (It was a number of years ago and I think the drug is available now. I have also never seen a free video or a Bob Dole commercial promoting it)

[Mike7]

Yes, Pfizer produces Zoloft, and has a vested interest in Zoloft sales. But before one can buy Zoloft, one generally has to go to a doctor. And this doctor may prescribe Zoloft, or may suggest another drug, or may recommend psychiatric/psychological counseling, or may find some physical cause for the depression. (I'm 100% certain that the pamphlets and videos Pfizer puts out state that if you believe you have a panic or depressive disorder, you should see a doctor, and not simply try to score some black market Zoloft.)

Yes, Pfizer is Big Business. So what? It doesn't invalidate any of the above. No, Pfizer isn't offering free remedies to the poor -- but this is completely irrelevant in determining whether offering free information on panic and depressive disorders (even information that may emphasize the value of Zoloft) will help people.

Yes, it does suck to be depressed. And humor can be a good thing in life. But your suggestion that someone suffering from depression will read your comments, laugh, and gain a better perspective on his situation is specious reasoning to the point of absurdity.

The fact that you don't know anyone who claims to have been "cured" by Zoloft is, again, essentially irrelevant to the question of whether literature and videos on panic and depressive disorders (even those produced by the manufacturer of Zoloft) are of value in convincing some people to seek professional help for their problems. I would add however, purely as an aside, that many people do benefit from taking Zoloft -- a medication which is probably over-prescribed, but whose clinical value has been confirmed in many studies. (Nor is Zoloft meant to be a "cure," so much as it is intended to help keep certain symptoms of the underlying disorder under control.)

TheLoneGunman, why can't you just admit that you made an insensitive, ignorant comment, and apologize? Or at least refrain from laughable attempts to justify your remarks?

In any case, this forum is supposed to be about deals, and I don't intend to wander any further off-topic than I already have. So if anyone wants to continue this thread, go ahead -- but I won't be offering any more posts on this matter.

[andytseng]

Actually, noone probably cared to tell you about taking zoloft, most likely cuz they'd get an insensitive response. I took zoloft in the latter years of my high school career, and I'd have to say that it did its job. It didn't make me happy or zealous, but it made the lows not so low. Depression is actually sometimes caused by a chemical imbalance that science can help.

They aren't asking you to buy drugs; they're sending you videotapes to help you determine what kind of situation you may be dealing with if you think you or a friend is suffering from the disease.