indecent exposure / maternity

[epoxi]

breast feeding in public? indecent exposure ? so as it stands in washington dc....ridiculous

[irwin]

I saw a lady breast feeding on a mall bench.

[ArkiStan]

cool

[ArkiStan]

dang..maybe I should stop drinking now.

oops wrong thread...

[Edited by ucbstan on 04-11-2001 at 07:22 PM]

[Memo]

depends on how good looking the mother is

[welfareloser]

what are you talking about - people are actually still getting in trouble for feeding babies? fabulous. women needed just one more thing to be ashamed of. i love this fucking country - the same country where complete strangers will walk up to you and tell you you're poisoning your kid if they see you engaging in the unforgivable sin of feeding them formula.

i read about a woman who was kicked out of a mall by a security guard for breast feeding her baby on a bench WITH EVERYTHING TOTALLY COVERED BY A PRIVACY BLANKET no less. so she makes a few phone calls and that weekend TWO HUNDRED mothers show up to sit in the food court and breast feed. that's just too cool.

[jmac87]

Is it just me or does anyone else find ucbstan's accidental post funny?

[coleslaw]

I think Jim Carrey handled this very issue quite well in Me, Myself and Irene. Wouldn't you agree?

[cruelpupet]

I see no need for women to breast feed in public. Besides being able to give it formula, they can always pump it and bottle it in the privacy of their own home.

[Memo]

Pump it in a bottle.....that's a lovely site. I too think that women don't need to breasfeed in public. Sure it's natural, but isn't pissing, shitting, puking and having sex natural too? Hopefully not all at the same time. Yea, you might throw a little blanket over it to cover, but if i laid down on a mall bench and had sex with a blanket over me, i'm still not doing something write. I know my comparison is a bit exagerated, but it's not that hard to walk to your car, or go home to feed the child.

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by cruelpupet
I see no need for women to breast feed in public. Besides being able to give it formula, they can always pump it and bottle it in the privacy of their own home.

wtf is wrong with you people?!?!? pumping and bottling is painful and inconvenient, not every woman is capable of releasing milk into a bottle, it is extremely difficult to get all of the fat out, since the last of the milk is higher in fat and the last of the milk is hard to get out mechanically (and the fat is really important stuff...), the nutrients, immunoglobulins, and other beneficial substances start to degrade the minute they leave the body, and you run the risk of spoilage, not to mention the fact that some babies can get confused by switching from bottle to nipple and start to eat poorly.

formula is not as good as breastmilk. period. there are substances in breastmilk that do important things that are not duplicated in formula. formula is the NEXT best thing, not the best thing.

it's not that hard to walk to your car or go home?!?!? how do you know? babies eat every 45 min - 3 hours. over the five-month period that i breast fed, i was chained to my baby, but i don't think i had any moral obligation to stay chained to my home. no, i don't think i should have to feed my baby in a public toilet or a car, for chrissake. there is no more "need" for a baby to eat in public than there is for YOU to eat in public. i go to the mall, my kid is hungry, i feed him. you go to the mall, you get hungry, you sit in the food court and eat. see the similarities? it is not pissing, or shitting, or puking, or farting, or ass-scratching, or nose-picking, or sex. it is eating. it involves a human nipple, which is structurally identical (yes, identical; histologically the same, with some key features simply undeveloped, not absent or different) to your damned nipple, which i am sure has seen the sunlight many a time. more socially enlightened countries are not frightened by the naked female breast in any context, let alone the context of feeding a friggin baby.

i don't exactly enjoy the sight of someone eating sloppily and noisily at mcd's, but i don't question their right to do it.

grow up. new mothers are bombarded with enough unfounded judgmental crap; they sure as shit don't need this nonsense on top of everything else.

[Edited by welfareloser on 04-12-2001 at 12:03 AM]

[gwilks98]

Did anyone see the Married W/ Children episode where Al confronts this?


It was hilarious.

He kicked a woman out of his store for breast feeding in there, so she calls up Marcey Darcey who does the stages a protest of breast feeders in his store.

So Al gets all of his beer buddies to start dancing shirtless in front of the mothers and after about five big hairy white bellies, the breast feeders retreated.



Okay people, I know breast feeding is natural, and I would much rather a mother breast feed than use formula. But I think it should be done in private, or discretely if in public. The last thing I want to see while I'm in the mall is a mom sitting in the middle of the walkway nursing her kid. It's no different than watching a couple make out. It's something that's a bit too personal for public display.

[revil]

Originally posted by welfareloser
so she makes a few phone calls and that weekend TWO HUNDRED mothers show up to sit in the food court and breast feed. that's just too cool.

How is that cool?! Their force feeding their babies! I can't believe they did such an atrocious thing and that you actually thought it was cool!







just kidding.

[ArkiStan]

Originally posted by welfareloser
... more socially enlightened countries are not frightened by the naked female breast in any context,...

I think we have a lot to learn from these other countries. I wanna see more breasts in public (breast-feeding or just bare) as well as on prime time TV. Yeah baby Yeah!!!

[cruelpupet]

Originally posted by ucbstan

Originally posted by welfareloser
... more socially enlightened countries are not frightened by the naked female breast in any context,...

I think we have a lot to learn from these other countries. I wanna see more breasts in public (breast-feeding or just bare) as well as on prime time TV. Yeah baby Yeah!!!

Im sure that there are many breasts you would NOT want to see.

[oblongmelon]

In almost every other country in this world-breastfeeding in public or otherwise is perfectly acceptable. Even in those "iffy" countries like the UK where they are oh so anal-it is perfectly fine so long as it is done with a bit of dignity. Blanket covering would be fine. The problem is that the US is run by pompous horses ass men who are either jealous of breastfeeding babies or so damn afraid they are gonna get off on it that they may sport a wood in the middle of the mall. Being a Former Neonatal nurse for many many years-I can tell you that there is a HUGE amount of women who long to breast feed their infants but can't due to no breast milk at all or due to having pre-mature infants who cant tolerate being out of isolets for more than a few minutes at a time to bond with their mothers, and get the benefits of breast feeding. The first few feedings is a substance called Colostrum which is not breastmilk but a clear substance that includes all the "goodies" that help infants build up immunities to ward off allergies,illness's etc. While breast pumping sounds so easy-it isn't, and can be down right painful if it's not done right,and since breast milk spoils at a rate so fast-if you pump breast milk and don't use it within 4 hours it must be frozen. Refridgeration isnt enough to keep it from spoiling as fast as it does. While baby formula is a quick and easy way to feed these babies-formula simply does not contain the nutrients that it takes to build up the immunities in these kids-and quite frankly 50% of all babies are intolerant of baby formula (hence all the spitting)-very few breast fed babies puke up sour smelling messes on their mothers shoulders-and while the occasional gob here and their is due to inconsistant burping,spitting up after formula is natures way of telling you, that your baby's system is just to delicate to hold this stuff in. Why would anyone think that breast feeding in indecent? It's so perfectly DECENT that they should make it a national holiday. I suggest that No one ever get into a spat with a member of the LE LECHE league-my god-they will devour you.

[cruelpupet]

Dignity....earlier in the thread it was mentoned that women were doing it in the middle of the mall on a bench, or having massive groups of women do it in the food court. They should at least make an effort to goto a more private area.

[LPMiller]

why? What is so personal and all fired private about lunch?

[apmiller]

What the heak I'm I hearing here? Why is there an argument? Bottom line...you don't want to see it then stop looking! Guys look because they WANT to see SKIN! But when they see what's attached to it and it's not them, that's when it becomes, "Yuck! You can do that here!" Most women know it's natural and better for the child. But then some gals are shy and see feeding in public, it makes them feel akward and they say NO WAY! That ain't happening here! Go do that in your CAR or at HOME.

Let's face the most important fact here, you don't have to LOOK! If I see a large guy stuffing his face with all the food he can, that grosses me out and I look away then suddenly life is better. If I notice a mother feeding her child, I just look away. None of my business. The kid needs to eat but I don't want to see it so I LOOK AWAY.

To kick someone out of a mall or someplace like that is nuts and wrong! Come on is this America or what?

[ironchef]

it's boobies! boobies as objects of utility rather than pleasure! that's sacrelige! milk!? ewwwwwww!

or, so i suspect that's the reasoning behind the reaction some stooges have to it.

jealousy or fear of a chubby? hehe, that's funny! good theory.

here's a tip for guys that are so in love with the nipple that they can't bear to have its image tainted by a child nursing from it:

1. go get yours pierced and leave it in for a good year or so
2. remove piercing - you now have your very own woman-sized nipple! woohoo!

[Memo]

Screw it, feed your child some tit

[fakesurfers]

breasts=good

'nuff said!

[welfareloser]

Originally posted by cruelpupet
Dignity....earlier in the thread it was mentoned that women were doing it in the middle of the mall on a bench, or having massive groups of women do it in the food court. They should at least make an effort to goto a more private area.

there's nothing undignified about doing it with any level of exposure.

some guys are just wierded out by the sex object/maternal object dichotomy. if you are afraid you'll get a woodie with a baby in your field of vision, avert your eyes.

(but there's really nothing sinful about getting a woodie over breastfeeding.)

if you're embarrassed, whatever. but asking a woman to conceal herself during breastfeeding is what is undignified.

my kid, for one, refused to eat with a blanket over his head (wouldn't you?), so that was never even an option for me.

interesting that i've never heard a woman call nonchalant breastfeeding indecent. (and yes, i'm sure if you looked hard enough, you could find a couple, but not many... and they'd almost have to be republicans, wouldn't they?)

rev. evil - i know some babies are picky eaters, but i don't think it's even physically possible to force-feed a lot of kids... like my kid, who until recently looked like jabba the hut in a diaper... ;-)

[Jenny]

Especially breast-feeding. That is virtually inmpossible. It isn't like if a woman sticks the nipple in the babies mouth, the baby will automatically start sucking. The baby has to want to eat (or want to suckle...) and if they do, then they will latch on with their tongue and lips and then start to suck. If they don't latch on, they can't suck. If they aren't hungry or don't just want to suckle for comfort, they won't latch on. Pure and simple.

[apmiller]

Originally posted by Jenny
Especially breast-feeding. That is virtually inmpossible. It isn't like if a woman sticks the nipple in the babies mouth, the baby will automatically start sucking. The baby has to want to eat (or want to suckle...) and if they do, then they will latch on with their tongue and lips and then start to suck. If they don't latch on, they can't suck. If they aren't hungry or don't just want to suckle for comfort, they won't latch on. Pure and simple.

Umm...thanks for that lesson in...um...sucking.

[m0j0]

nuttin wrong with breast feeding in public. maybe an effort should be made to be more private, but if it's not possible, it should be no big deal. we're talkin about babies here. it's not like we're talking about some 5 year old kid or something. like apmiller says...look away if you don't like. in fact, look away if you do like (you pervs)

[bella]

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i don't exactly enjoy the sight of someone eating sloppily and noisily at mcd's, but i don't question their right to do it.

grow up. new mothers are bombarded with enough unfounded judgmental crap; they sure as shit don't need this nonsense on top of everything else.

[Edited by welfareloser on 04-12-2001 at 12:03 AM] [/B][/QUOTE]



Very nicely said! I think there should be a law against people DIGGING in their noses! That is disgusting! There is nothing wrong with breastfeeding in public! I mean what is wrong with a little breast, they show that on TV all the time.... I don't see people complaining too much about that..

[ChIcKeN_HaWk]

Especially breast-feeding. That is virtually inmpossible. It isn't like if a woman sticks the nipple in the babies mouth, the baby will automatically start sucking. The baby has to want to eat (or want to suckle...) and if they do, then they will latch on with their tongue and lips and then start to suck. If they don't latch on, they can't suck. If they aren't hungry or don't just want to suckle for comfort, they won't latch on. Pure and simple.

I love to latch on, it's fun. LOL

[ProPain]

Maybe if more places had a "private" place for nursing, moms wouldn't have to nurse in front of people. I'm not talking about sitting on a filthy toilet in a stall barely big enough for one person either! JMHO. Pro

[hapoo]

All i'm saying is that if she should choose to do that in public, she should at least share.