**DEAL**???? for California residents only....

[Talk2raffi]

Well, not really a deal...but I just *think* I heard on the news that due to the california surplus money they are giving EVERY califonia taxpayer an additional $150 regardless of how much tax they paid...

Can anyone verify this??? Was I just imagining it??

Thanks..

[SDIBO10]

I think im moving to California. I think I bought some gum there and there was a sales tax on it...does that count?

[ProMinx]

you weren't just imagining that report. I saw it on the news yesterday also. California has a $1.76 billion surplus, and rather than doing something good with it (education system, education system, education system!!!!), davis is giving it back. I would gladly give up 150 bucks to help us get out of 49th place for education. What was Davis thinking? I'm a republican, but education is still important. Nobody from Missouri or Arkansas can outthink a Californian, but forsome reason we're still ranked lower than those i-dots.
ProMinx

[Talk2raffi]

Ummm....no...real taxes...like you know, when you fill out those incomprehesable forms..and you have a job and every 2 weeks they take a big chunk from it??....well..i only paid $40 last year..and im gonna get a $190 tax return???

AWESOME!!!

hey..check that out, I broke 100 posts...didnt even notice.

[ProMinx]

i got 200 dollars back (from 200 withheld), so i should get 150 on top of it, but oh well.
ProMinx

[jiahau]

Is the ENTIRE surplus being given back as refunds?
regardless...........yeah.....the money should go to the schools.... ALL of it should.

I mean, it just makes sense.

[MisterNexTag]

I paid nearly $50,000 in taxes this year, including to California :-(

I should not be reporting all my income (like from trading at NexTag.com), but noooo I am too honest (and am afraid of going to prison)

While I would welcome the money, it is not that big os a deal (it will probably cost close to that just to administer this program - if true)

[ProMinx]

yes, all 1.76 billion is going back to the taxpayers. well...1.76 billion is going back, so maybe the surplus was actually more than that. who knows?
ProMinx

[pop-eye-]

better than 50% of the money given to schools has gone to raises for the teachers
i for one think if they are not doing the job then i should have the money to put my kid in a school where I CHOOSE the teacher and the quality... 2cents and WAYYY of topic

[AmRivlin]

Wow, that does sound ludicrus (sp???), I know Alaska pays back similary yet they have the pipline and get a refund of atleast 2 grand a person. Although it would be better in education, put it towards the 150 of the purchase at Staples 200 -50 (coupon) -150 (CA refund). What a great country!

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[Renski]

LOL... Sounds like AmRivlin has a plan!

Renski

[ProMinx]

the reason that alaska gives so much money (not a tax refund) is because they allowed the construction of the pipeline and the resultant destruction of the environment. Also (love to be the bearer of good news), the Alaskan "refund" is not 2K, but...catch this (my grandparents lived there for a year), 50K. My grandparents made 50,000 for just living in the state for one year, not even counting the money they made form Social Security and stocks and stuff like that.
ProMinx
ps - i'm not sure that that is the average amount, but i know that that is what they made from the pipeline.

[speedracer120]

Hey Talk2raffi, can you find a link or something? I can't believe my eyes. That means that I get $150 on top of the $1 I already got from the State of California.

[sbp]

Its great to see this money, small amount it may be, back with the people who have worked hard for it and who know what is best to do with it. No doubt about it taxes are way too high. Just throwing money at the public educational system (or many other governmental run institutions) doesn't mean we see the results we should see and should demand for all the money spent on it.

For example here in Montgomery County, Maryland the per student spending is over $8,500. Yet many students who were born and lived their entire lives in Montgomery County and went to the Montgomery County public school system still need remedial education at Montgomery College and University of Maryland. DC $pends over $10,000 per student and is near dead last in the nation for education.

The problems of public education are myriad. The main problems are:
<UL><LI>The stunning lack of displine. Students can literally get away with murder before anything is done to remove these disruptive, destructive and unruly influences.

<LI>Parental disinterest. Some parents (assuming some of these kids have parents and that's a subject for another thread) just don't care about what their kids do. Their attitude is its someone else's problem to deal with not theirs.

<LI>Incompetent teachers who never should have been hired. Some were hired because of distasteful discrimatory quota systems.

<LI>and finally is the NEA. A fearful BIG union that shrilly decries desperately needed education reform thereby holding children hostage to its failed policies. A union which is much more interested in money and preserving its power while giving nary a thought to the concerns of children.
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All of these truly add up to cause America's mediocre educational system not lack of funding.

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[Talk2raffi]

Speedracer, I would love proof...but I guess i'll have to just wait for the check....

New 128MB RAM on the state of california...yay!

[speedracer120]

Right on!!!

[loup]

california here i come...wait i am in california.... $150 lets hopeeeee....

[ProMinx]

wow, there are still some people alive. i'm impressed. i thought that maybe america (and canada) were nuked and my roommate and i werw the only people still alive.
ProMinx

[Speedfreak]

Woohoo... ya I got $1 back from Federal. But had to pay $60 to state. I guess I will be more than double what I paid, back.


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[tupacboy]

yes!!! i can finally pay all the damn ucla parking enforcement tickets!!!

[ProMinx]

i have a friend who has come down to visit twice; the first time, she got a 20 something dollar ticket. the next time she was towed and had to pay about 200 bucks. She wanted to come back again today (saturday), but E3 takes priority now that i haev a ticket. She was pissed when i told her that.
ProMinx

[tupacboy]

hahahahahahahahahaha.. they freaking tow cars so damn fast!!!.... i mean i hate the fact that you can see the darn tow trucks just chillin at the chevron waiting.... damn punks.... and i'm assuming that the girl isn't cute at all!! are u south campus??

[ProMinx]

i was south campus; i was a chemical engineer, but i'm thinking of switching over to economics because i'm really more interested int hat sort of stuff, but most of my classes are still south campus. ProMinx

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[JIWC]

hahahaha

[sbp]

Post pictures please.