The most overrated cars ...

**KoalaFD** · 03-07-2001, 01:08 AM

What do you guys (and gals if any are around) think are the 5 most overrated cars? And underrated if you want... I'm gonna get heat for this...

Overrated (not in any particular order):

1. Ford Mustang/Toyota Supra (mostly by the owners) - These cars in and of themselves are not overrated by the vast populus. But the owners of these cars think that their cars are the fastest thing on the planet. And while this may be a generalization... you know it's true.

2. Honda Civic Si - Boy racer car #1. Sorry Kebs.

3. Acura Integra GS-R - Boy racer car #2.

4. Honda S2000 - Rich boy racer car #3. It may make 240hp but 151 ft-lbs? C'mon.... some serious oopmh is in order.

5. PT Cruiser - I'm sorry. I really hate these cars.

Underrated

1. Porsche Turbo S (1997) - Watch for the I/C openings on the side of the car. Only a handful were even made. And most of the owners are of the type that aren't afraid to use it.

2. Buick Grand National - I saw one the other day that said, "I eat EVERYTHING for breakfast." Damn, these cars are fast. If you don't have to turn. And, no offense if you have one, the thing is so ugly that it makes itself underrated.

3. MR2 - Kind of the "forgotten" Japanese sports car among the Supra/NSX/RX-7 genre.

4. Mazda 323 GTX - This little machine is great!

5. E30 M3 - Especially those damn Evo I-IIIs (these were never sold in the US). Cranking out 200+ hp from a 4-banger back in the 1990s (pre-VTEC aka "the poor man's turbo") on a kick-ass suspension too.

**Ice-9** · 03-07-2001, 09:49 AM

Heheh, excellent list. I'd just like to agree with the overrated list, and add another Porsche to the underrated, since I don't know anything about the Buick.

6. '89 Porsche 944 Turbo S - Looks like a slightly cooler Dodge Daytona, out-accelerates everything else but the 911 Turbo, for WAY less money. Out-handles the 911, too.

Oh, and...

7. Audi RS4 - 0-60 in 4.9. But here's the catch: it's a freaking station wagon. I'm gonna get one for my mom so she can take the high school kids in their Supras and Mustangs off the line.

**hapoo** · 03-07-2001, 12:49 PM

Originally posted by KoalaFD

5. E30 M3 - Especially those damn Evo I-IIIs (these were never sold in the US). Cranking out 200+ hp from a 4-banger back in the 1990s (pre-VTEC aka "the poor man's turbo") on a kick-ass suspension too.

Damn straight!!!!!!

**~~pennypinch~~** · 03-07-2001, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Ice-9
6. '89 Porsche 944 Turbo S - Looks like a slightly cooler Dodge Daytona, out-accelerates everything else but the 911 Turbo, for WAY less money. Out-handles the 911, too.

And looks far worse. Call me a purist, but I like the slope nose and big fenders.

And I simply assume you're talking about the '89 911's, right? Even so, wasn't that the first year of the C4? Oh, silly me, that was the year the C4's had massive understeer. Forget it...

Only problem with the 944's and 924's is their resale values are second only to that powerhouse, the 917. How's yours holding up, maintenance-wise?

**mp19fan** · 03-07-2001, 11:14 PM

Gotta give props to the 944, especially the relatively unknown 944S2. Good, clean, NA fun with handling that's second to none. Think it and the car is there...

Yeah, resale is crappy, but that's why if you can find a good used one w/ maintenance records, it'll be a steal. Lot's of fun to drive!

**hapoo** · 03-07-2001, 11:32 PM

no offense to anyone but for some reason whenever I think of Porsche's I picture the owner as some pansy ass rich man, focus is on the pansy ass.

**nhbilly** · 03-08-2001, 12:53 AM

D@mn your right on about the Mazda 323 GTX, KoalaFD.
These car handle so well.....when modified of course.
But you for got about the '86 >>>Trevino >>>> AKA Corolla GTS

**eSDee** · 03-08-2001, 01:15 AM

Im sorry fellas and/or gals, but would you mind if I added a SUV to the list? I think that the new Aztec is the ugliest hunk of metal to EVER hit the streets!! What were the designers thinking? Sheesh!

**cheapo** · 03-08-2001, 01:32 AM

yea that aztec is one of the ugliest...and not far from the ugliest is the hyundai tiburon

**Leon** · 03-08-2001, 03:59 AM

Originally posted by KoalaFD

4. Honda S2000 - Rich boy racer car #3. It may make 240hp but 151 ft-lbs? C'mon.... some serious oopmh is in order.

Plus, they break easy.

**~~pennypinch~~** · 03-08-2001, 08:49 AM

Originally posted by hapoo
no offense to anyone but for some reason whenever I think of Porsche's I picture the owner as some pansy ass rich man, focus is on the pansy ass.

And when I think BMW, I think someone who's trying to look like a pansy ass rich man, but failing miserably. That, or their pansy ass rich man father (who drives a Porsche) bought it for them.

**styleee** · 03-08-2001, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by Leon

Plus, they break easy.

you are toooo silly!

**Blu** · 03-08-2001, 11:10 AM

Overrated: Civic Si

Underrated: VW GTI

**Blu** · 03-08-2001, 11:14 AM

oh, and this Navigator:

**~~pennypinch~~** · 03-08-2001, 12:14 PM

Ho
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shit

**speedracer120** · 03-08-2001, 07:52 PM

Severe waste of time, money, and effort.

**Ice-9** · 03-09-2001, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by pennypinch

Originally posted by Ice-9
6. '89 Porsche 944 Turbo S - Looks like a slightly cooler Dodge Daytona, out-accelerates everything else but the 911 Turbo, for WAY less money. Out-handles the 911, too.

And looks far worse. Call me a purist, but I like the slope nose and big fenders.

Very true. Stupid crack-smoking designers.

And I simply assume you're talking about the '89 911's, right? Even so, wasn't that the first year of the C4? Oh, silly me, that was the year the C4's had massive understeer. Forget it...

Only problem with the 944's and 924's is their resale values are second only to that powerhouse, the 917. How's yours holding up, maintenance-wise?

Uggh. Don't ask.

No, seriously, the engine, transmission, and all other essential driving parts are great, it's just everything else that wants to wear out at the drop of a hat. Like my damn headlights.

And what Transformers nightmare did that Navigator come out of?

**TheLoneGunman** · 03-09-2001, 11:46 AM

5. PT Cruiser - I'm sorry. I really hate these cars.

I nearly fell for the hype and bought one over full price.

Now I see the dealer lots bursting with these things!

HA HA HA HA

"All their PT Cruisers still belong to them"

**Blu** · 03-09-2001, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman

5. PT Cruiser - I'm sorry. I really hate these cars.

I nearly fell for the hype and bought one over full price.

Now I see the dealer lots bursting with these things!

HA HA HA HA

"All their PT Cruisers still belong to them"

Someone definately set them up the bomb.

My grandfather has a 84 944 w/ under 40k on it. I don't think there's ever been a major mechanical problem with the car. Still starts, runs, looks pretty, and drives like a dream.

Blu

**clutchy** · 03-09-2001, 04:16 PM

hate to get in on the porsche bmw deal, but the porsche is a purists car simple as that. It's pure sport and it wasn't designed for anything else. The bmw on the other hand is a great performer, but it's a sports sedan it's for the sporty family guy who can't have his porsche, with the family. Totally different genre of car and both deserve alot of respect they've all come along way from what they used to be. I just don't agree with going to water cooled.

**clutchy** · 03-09-2001, 04:21 PM

oh yeah almost forgot, the only reason buick gn's and t-types aren't still kickin the shit out of corvette's, camaro's and fbirds is because gm saw what they were doing to the badass 3.8L and put a stop to it. Because you can't have one of your luctury lines smoking the tires off your sports car. True story i kid u not.

**hapoo** · 03-09-2001, 04:26 PM

you know why i dislike porsches. CAUSE I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE VW. Don't really know why.

**~~pennypinch~~** · 03-09-2001, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by hapoo
you know why i dislike porsches. CAUSE I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE VW. Don't really know why.

Please...a Porsche hasn't had a VW designed component in it since the 917.

**helius** · 03-09-2001, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by pennypinch

Originally posted by hapoo
you know why i dislike porsches. CAUSE I HATE, ABSOLUTELY HATE VW. Don't really know why.

Please...a Porsche hasn't had a VW designed component in it since the 917.

Didn't they work on a new SUV together?

**hapoo** · 03-09-2001, 05:45 PM

no its not that they share parts, its just the fact that VW owns porsche. Hell i wouldnt' mind having one, but the VW-ness of it *shivvers*

**phlick** · 03-10-2001, 03:21 AM

This ought to give you nightmares than hapoo:

VW is doing more to change the modern concept of car design than any company. (with a possible exception of Dodge/Chrysler)

My favorite ad of theirs would have to be the one were it shows the new beetle and then the tag that went something to the effect of "other cars are starting to look strange".

[Edited by phlick on 03-10-2001 at 03:45 AM]

**helius** · 03-10-2001, 07:19 AM

That microbus concept is as ugly as an Aztek.

**styleee** · 03-10-2001, 08:29 AM

i like the aztec, but pretty much only cause logan cale drives one

**hapoo** · 03-10-2001, 12:42 PM

Originally posted by helius
That microbus concept is as ugly as an Aztek.

Thank you

**~~pennypinch~~** · 03-10-2001, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by hapoo
no its not that they share parts, its just the fact that VW owns porsche. Hell i wouldnt' mind having one, but the VW-ness of it *shivvers*

I love debunking myths...

http://www.hoovers.com/co/capsule/5/0,2163,91295,00.html

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