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    NSS/S: HOA meetings

    NSS: After all these years living in a condo since 2003, I've attended the second biggest meeting attendance wise. Usually it was me and maybe 4 other people but I was constant attendee. They came to voice their opinion on the budget and our HOA fees going up year after year. Good.

    S: How in the world does a threat of civil rights lawsuit against the board members and the management company come up??

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    Did a board member assault someone?
    Am I alone here? Is that it?
    Am I the only one who sees.

    Maybe we can learn to be just like him.
    Wear a little uniform.
    Yes, sir.
    No, sir.
    Thank you, sir.

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    condo living is so much fun !
    my daughter lives in a condo community in Tampa.all the homes are duplex's it at times gets bad enough when the homes need to be painted or re-roofed. luckily daughters partner is easy going. this last summer they were told by the condo ass. it needed to be painted. well the problem comes in with paint colors. see the condo ass. tell you what brand paint and colors that are allowed and you have to use there color chart. plus the home must be painted in a 3 color seam from the chart they supply. it can become a real problem if two owner can't agree on colors. also if one side (owner) refuses to go along with the program .as your not allowed to change the look of the siding as in putting a divider. unless it was there when the house was built. so lets say the siding on the house is solid going across from the right but bad on the left and boards run solid across. your not allowed to cut them and put a divider in . both sides would have to be replaced and if one side saids they can't afford it . you have to pay for all of it .and your only alternative is court and hope you can make the neighbor pay. in her condo set up the asst pays for the pool and common areas but your responsible for all repairs on the home and your yard.
    there diffrent types of condo agreement,contracts . but for me personally im not fond of any type of condo living .
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    No one assaulted anyone but there was a lot of shouting and threatening language that I think was uncalled for or unprovoked. It was never confrontational before.

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    So whats the civil suit about?
    Am I alone here? Is that it?
    Am I the only one who sees.

    Maybe we can learn to be just like him.
    Wear a little uniform.
    Yes, sir.
    No, sir.
    Thank you, sir.

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    So whats the civil suit about?
    a rate increase ?
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    My subdivision has a very loose, non-enforced, set of guidelines for home construction requirements when the subdivision was created.

    There are currently like 3 or 4 lots left of 60ish. Before I started building, they tried to have a vote to transfer the HOA from the developer into an actual HOA for the subdivision. Sounds very similar to your meeting. Very tense, a lot of mf'ing and finger pointing, etc. I thought it was pretty hilarious that some of these people in 3-500k homes were getting so worked up about $50/yr fee to get the thing funded.

    Long story short, we really don't have one, and I have a feeling it'll be a long time before we get one (if ever.)

    Curious to hear what your lawsuit angle is about though!

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    I think it's groundless but what do I know. One of the new residents didn't like the tone a representative from our management company had with two Spanish speaking residents. I admit I had a very hard time understanding their issue they wanted to bring up. But after they had their issue out there, the representative response I guess was demeaning to a few people. Flew over my head but whatever. So the new resident stated he can bring up two civil lawsuits based on the demeaning and I guess discriminating tone of the representative and against HOA board members since they hired them. The issue they Spanish couple brought up was about late payments on the HOA fee, telephone tag and the management company not having a Spanish speaking person to talk to. That's the issue I think they wanted to raise but somehow instead of focusing on that, suddenly it became about civil rights violations. Most of the meeting was just how we're violating this county code, or this state code, etc. I'm happy he's pointing this out since he's taking the initiative to research the law but the board members are normal residents who reluctantly took the job because no one else will. Threatening them with a lawsuit and jail doesn't help. I think he can be helpful but I don't like the way he delivered it.

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    but the board members are normal residents who reluctantly took the job because no one else will
    sad to say this is the norm. the thing that gets me is they also are no payed but there always one or two in a group who always want to file legal action. there also the one's that complain over anything but when it comes to putting in actions that require them to do something are the last to show up if at all.
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    Or even worse, they'll just step down. Then what? I sure's hell wouldn't want to have to deal with BS like in a position that I VOLUNTEERED to help out with.

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    I'd step down if someone threatened to sue me for a position I volunteered for to help the rest of the home owners. He has good ideas and seems knowledgeable but the way he does it condescending when he expects people to know what he knows about every state, city and county law ever passed. We could use the help without the attitude. The same attitude he threatens to sue for but uses himself.

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    Our HOA President in my Neighborhood used to be pretty blatantly racist in the emails he sent out. I guess someone probably brought it up to him though, as I've stopped getting almost all email from him completely. Not sure he knows how to NOT be racist in his correspondence.


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    she just had to have her roof replaced this last week and they did a color match to the other side of her building (neighbors side ).
    no real problem matching seeing it is a white 3 tab shingle. but what a min.pain in the ass you need a city permit and then a approval from the asst.to and trying to get the paperwork from the asst was a pain .trying to set up a meet with the one in charge of the paperwork for the asst. then filling the papers out and showing them a sample of the shingle you plan on using. then the next week or month when they have there monthly meeting to get a approval by the board. then get back with the roofer and setting up a start date .what takes normal 1 week to get done by a contractor .takes 2 months due to asst paperwork and meetings. o forgot they also must check out his contracting lic. and see proof of his insurance .this is not a bad thing just takes time. seeing they have one person on the board he check this all out and gives the board the green light that it all passed .so there the second meeting (2 months) before the work can start. if this was a private home with out a HOA you could do all this in 1 day unless you have to have a copy of his insurance sent to you by mail.
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    A lot more people at last nights HOA meeting. Glad to hear more input from other people versus one guy dominating/bullying the entire night. Didn't stop him from trying though. I don't know why he has this beef with the management company. Yes they probably aren't doing their job but when you have a historically low turnout who is there to argue but this seems like a personal vendetta or something. Anyhoo...more community involvement is a good thing. HOA fees not going up and we're going to gamble on a mild winter and be assessed special fees for emergencies.

    I think the consensus is we drop all our vendors and replace them with anyone else from Craigslist, postings on Home Depot, Angie's List, etc to the lowest bidder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcs328 View Post
    I think the consensus is we drop all our vendors and replace them with anyone else from Craigslist, postings on Home Depot, Angie's List, etc to the lowest bidder.
    Yikes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcs328 View Post
    I think the consensus is we drop all our vendors and replace them with anyone else from Craigslist, postings on Home Depot, Angie's List, etc to the lowest bidder.
    Yea, why's that. Do people think you're getting hosed? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. The people in charge of such things probably aren't as careful with condo assoc. money as they would be with their own money.
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