Taliban Warn of Revenge if U.S. Attacks Afghanistan

[Burzhui]

http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/...ghan_dc_2.html

KABUL (Reuters) - Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s ruling Taliban warned on Friday of revenge ``by other means'' if the United States attacked their country in retaliation for the deadly terror attacks on Washington and New York.

The warning came as fundamentalist Taliban clerics in the capital used Friday prayers to urge the world's Muslims to unite against the U.S.

``Oh Muslims of the world, we should unite together if the United States attacks us,'' one cleric told the faithful at a Kabul mosque. The theme was repeated across the capital.

Washington says Osama bin Laden (news - web sites), who lives in Afghanistan as a ``guest'' of the Taliban, is a prime suspect in connection with Tuesday's deadly attacks. It has vowed to strike against those responsible as well as any country which harbours them.

Abdul Hai Mutamaen, the Taliban's chief spokesman, warned of revenge if the U.S. attacked. ``We will take revenge if America attacks through different means,'' he told reporters without elaborating.


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[pennypinch]

Well, honestly, what do you expect them to do? There's going to be a serious smackdown laid on them: did you think they were going to just let it happen? Fanatical or not, these people have constituents that they are supposed to protect. If I had no other recourse, idle threats that might pursuade the US to be more peaceful or at least rethink their attack would be the first and best thing I could think of.

Furthermore, it's obvious they're on everyone's **** list. So appealing to other country's religious leanings that may not like the US so much anyway seems as good an angle as I can think of too.

[Jihforce]

Are they dense?!? What's with the "Oh Muslims of the world...lets unite against the US" crap?

Since when did the US single out Muslim and try to kill them off because of their beliefs? Idiots. These Taliban morons are missing a few screws up there. Somehow, I wonder what these "other means" are. (more terrorist attacks?) I'm normally not one to place quick judgement and point fingers, but I kind of feel like they are hiding something and are beginning to panic. I mean if they aren't in anyway responsible or associated with this whole mess, why won't they just cooperate with the US? And if they deem terrorism as unacceptable, why don't they help the US find out who was responsible? Are their morals THAT messed up?

All that crap about "children of Afghanistan" feeling our pain and sorrow...my @ss. I guess you can teach stupidity after all.

[Cheesypuff]

Why do they want to piss off a bee hive

[Grimm]

If it was them the only form of revenge they will be able to enact is having insuts about the US carved on their tombstones. The only effect this has is that their clergy have identified themselves as legitimate miitary targets.
In Afganistan Hate is a religon. They try to call it Islam, but it isn't Islam. Islam is about peace.

[Jihforce]

By the way, I have been hearing that Afghanistan has nukes. Any truth to that?

[Butch]

If they have them, they have them because they bought them on the black market. They sure as hell did not develop them themselves. Even if they do have nukes, I'm quite sure they have no way of delivering them.

[Markel]

Originally posted by Butch
Even if they do have nukes, I'm quite sure they have no way of delivering them.

Backpacks?

[Burzhui]

LOL, well they can try to throw them

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Markel

Backpacks?

Kind of hard to carry a backback when you are a small pile of ash, misclanious gasses, and some radioactive particles.

[OC]

Of course they are going to take up a righteous posture - it's the typical behavior of a bully. They hit us, we hit them, then they hit us for hitting them. There is only one way to handle a bully - knock him on his *ss.

-OC

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by DarkFury
They gonna light the scuds? I'm sure a "patriot" would have something to say about that.

Yeah. Something like, "Here comes the scud, here comes the scud, I'm going to blow up the scud...dang, missed. Oh well, time to blow up a Saudi farm or something!"

The Patriot was pretty inaccurate, and was more the creation of US propaganda.

[Grimm]

Originally posted by pennypinch


Yeah. Something like, "Here comes the scud, here comes the scud, I'm going to blow up the scud...dang, missed. Oh well, time to blow up a Saudi farm or something!"

The Patriot was pretty inaccurate, and was more the creation of US propaganda.

The Patriots were designed to destroy an aerodynamic shape to prevent a missile or aircraft from hitting it's target. They are not effective against big 'ole bricks the Iraqi's called missiles. They were a make do answer to a situation we did not expect. We did not expect to have to beat down a third world nation. Just like you never expect to have to fight a 8 year old.
The Patriot is an effective weapon in it's designed role.

[Burzhui]

I say if you innhialate them they can't get you back

[Grimm]

Originally posted by overclocked
Of course they are going to take up a righteous posture - it's the typical behavior of a bully. They hit us, we hit them, then they hit us for hitting them. There is only one way to handle a bully - knock him on his *ss.

-OC

Don't forget to kick them while they are down. That way they learn that they never want to piss us off again.

[TheLoneGunman]

over 3000 years ago, there was a simple solution to problems like this and they are still valid in this situation.

Every member and supporter of the Taliban (man, woman, child) who advocates terror and violence will be wiped from the face of the Earth.

The loyalists left = no revenge possible.

Only when we choose to "turn the other cheek" do we get hit with the other fist.

[hapoo]

Afghanistan may be on everyones **** list right now, but the fact is that we have no clue what goes on behind closed doors. We can watch the news all we want and get reports of who did what but i seriously doubt that we know everything. This is not to justify anyones actions, but i for one am not judging any person or country because I DONT KNOW WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

[pennypinch]

Originally posted by evilcyclops


The Patriots were designed to destroy an aerodynamic shape to prevent a missile or aircraft from hitting it's target. They are not effective against big 'ole bricks the Iraqi's called missiles. They were a make do answer to a situation we did not expect. We did not expect to have to beat down a third world nation. Just like you never expect to have to fight a 8 year old.
The Patriot is an effective weapon in it's designed role.

Didn't know that.

[Butch]

This issue of the types of missiles the Patriots were designed to hit is also coming up with the National Missile Defense system. Apparently, the system is designed to hit missiles that are spinning, and therefore, more stable. However, most missiles by rogue states would not be advanced enough to have that stabilization built in. The missiles would often be tumbling end over end and much more difficult for the interceptor to hit.

[The Happy Squirrel]

they ahve stated up front and in the open that thier policy is, any American is an enemy and an executable enemy.

i dont know bout anyone else but i dont see a 5yrs kid being an enemy
or the 90 yr old manin a wheelchair

we should adopt the policy that they have
they wanna fight a "kill-em-all" war that we should pull up our bootstraps and kick some ass

[Butch]

The Taliban is not well liked in Afghanistan, and I'm sure the majority of the country would like to see the Taliban removed from power. The citizens there are not the enemy, it is really only the government and the religious fanatics. The people there suffer tremendously and I would feel bad to see them further hurt by indiscriminate "ass kicking" . . .

[OC]

Originally posted by Butch
The Taliban is not well liked in Afghanistan, and I'm sure the majority of the country would like to see the Taliban removed from power. The citizens there are not the enemy, it is really only the government and the religious fanatics. The people there suffer tremendously and I would feel bad to see them further hurt by indiscriminate "ass kicking" . . .

I know what you mean. I've read some articles over the last few days about how hated the Taliban is by the citizens of Afghanistan. If it is shown that the Taliban supported Bin Laden (which is strongly believed but has yet to be proven) then is it a certainty that innocent Afghanis will die in our retaliation. All through history, citizens have paid the price of the policies of their government, in peacetime and in war.

-OC

[Grimm]

Great, they can help us root out all the Taliban supporters after they Uncanditionaly surrender. Then we can build them up like we did Japan and Germany. They can be our allied nation in the middle east in a few decades.

[TheLoneGunman]

Originally posted by The Happy Squirrel
i dont know bout anyone else but i dont see a 5yrs kid being an enemy
or the 90 yr old manin a wheelchair

There are 5 year old kids that have used guns to kill people and the guns kill just as easily no matter what your age.

As far as a wheelchair, there is an elderly blind Sheik (Abdul Rahman) in a wheelchair (he was that way when he was charged) presently serving life without parole because of a conviction for terrorism. He is obviously a threat still and there are others like him.

What is to keep a man like that from putting a bomb in his wheelchair (especially since it would be harder to detect because of the metal) and also because people would be less likely to want to check in detail.

[Nanotech9]

Originally posted by Butch
This issue of the types of missiles the Patriots were designed to hit is also coming up with the National Missile Defense system. Apparently, the system is designed to hit missiles that are spinning, and therefore, more stable. However, most missiles by rogue states would not be advanced enough to have that stabilization built in. The missiles would often be tumbling end over end and much more difficult for the interceptor to hit.

mmmkay, so what makes a missile go forwards, if it tumbling? did they launch them outta pea-shooters?

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Nanotech9



mmmkay, so what makes a missile go forwards, if it tumbling? did they launch them outta pea-shooters?

Once the chemical energy is expended the inertia from the original boost. Some balistic missiles might have controls such as small engines and/or movable ffins to direct the missile.

US cruise missles are different. They combine a chemical thruster to give the initial boost and have a turbine to drive it once it is up to speed.

[Butch]

This is the abstract of the article I was basing the statement on. I would have posted the full article, but it is no longer available for free on the NY Times website.

August 27, 2001, Monday
Achilles' Heel In Missile Plan: Crude Weapons
By WILLIAM J. BROAD
Source: The New York Times
Section: Foreign Desk
1609 words

Abstract
Federal and private experts say missile defense system planned by Bush administration may be least able to destroy warheads from rogue countries thought to pose biggest threat; nations like North Korea, Iran and Iraq would fire wobbling, rudimentary warheads during attack, which are among hardest to hit; stopping rudimentary missile would be far harder than hitting advanced warheads, which are made to spin like tops or footballs to increase accuracy; crude warhead fired by inexperienced attacker is likely to have no spin stabilization and to gyrate wildly, tumbling end over end and making it harder to track; diagram (M)

[The Happy Squirrel]

Originally posted by TheLoneGunman


There are 5 year old kids that have used guns to kill people and the guns kill just as easily no matter what your age.

As far as a wheelchair, there is an elderly blind Sheik (Abdul Rahman) in a wheelchair (he was that way when he was charged) presently serving life without parole because of a conviction for terrorism. He is obviously a threat still and there are others like him.

What is to keep a man like that from putting a bomb in his wheelchair (especially since it would be harder to detect because of the metal) and also because people would be less likely to want to check in detail.

im talking in a organized way agaainst the Taliban and other supporsts and such

they consider that we are going to put our children up against them like they do
we dont fight in that style and they should know that

you must have misunderstood my intentions

im talking Americans do not do this type of things in an organized fation
there are always isloated insidents and never attacks on the muslims
this is not the norm or status quo and that waht i was trying to convey
tehy are targeting us if it was