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    Smallpox Vaccines

    U.S. requesting 300M smallpox vaccines

    By Julie Appleby, USA TODAY

    The U.S. government wants to order 300 million doses of a new smallpox vaccine, more than seven times the number originally requested, Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said Wednesday.

    Thompson has asked British firm Acambis to produce 54 million doses, up from its contract for 40 million, and is negotiating with other drug manufacturers, including giants Baxter and Merck.

    Officials at Baxter and Merck said they are providing scientific and technical assistance, although neither company is working to produce a vaccine.

    The surprise announcement came during a press conference at which Thompson and other health officials repeatedly asserted that the USA has plenty of antibiotics with which to fight anthrax.

    Earlier, Thompson asked Congress for $1.5 billion for bioterrorism efforts, including $509 million to speed development of a smallpox vaccine and $643 million to expand an antibiotic stockpile.

    Although 300 million doses would be enough to vaccinate the entire U.S. population, Thompson did not call for routine vaccination.

    "Right now all we're doing is preparing the supplemental appropriation to purchase the 300 million doses," Thompson said.

    The secretary also said pharmaceutical industry leaders have "assured us they would work to meet the demand the government might have for medicines in an emergency." Bayer has already tripled production of its anthrax treatment Cipro, expecting to make 200 million tablets during the next 60 days.

    Acambis was scheduled to deliver the smallpox vaccine in 2004. Thompson says it will be ready next year, although some vaccine experts question whether it can be done that fast.

    Routine smallpox vaccination ended in 1972, but the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention retains a stock of 15.4 million doses of vaccine from that era. Tests are under way to see if the old stocks of vaccine can be diluted to increase the supply to about 77 million doses.

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    I wonder why, the terrorists can't really get small pox to transport them here... cause they are contained in only three labs.. one in Siberia, one in USA and somewhere in Africa... and those places are fortresses
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    Originally posted by Burzhui
    I wonder why, the terrorists can't really get small pox to transport them here... cause they are contained in only three labs.. one in Siberia, one in USA and somewhere in Africa... and those places are fortresses
    Actually, the USSR possessed samples which "dissapeared" when it broke up.

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    Originally posted by UT Memo


    Actually, the USSR possessed samples which "dissapeared" when it broke up.
    nah last i heard it was contained in siberia
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    I'm not raggin' on anyone, just wondering, how the hell do you guys know where small pox samples are contained around the world?

    Originally posted by Burzhui
    last i heard it was contained in siberia
    last I heard...oh wait, I didn't hear crap. there is no Got|SmallPox? forum.

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    Originally posted by BrewMaster
    I'm not raggin' on anyone, just wondering, how the hell do you guys know where small pox samples are contained around the world?



    last I heard...oh wait, I didn't hear crap. there is no Got|SmallPox? forum.
    what you don't believe me???

    Eradicating smallpox became a global focus with the direction of the World Health Organization, which was formed after World War II. With their coordination, vaccines were combined with quarantines and containment procedures to break the chain of transmission. Their efforts were rewarded. The last reported case of smallpox contracted via natural transmission was in Somalia in 1977 (Ellner, 1998). In 1980 the WHO declared smallpox defeated. It is important to note, however, that in 1978 three cases of smallpox resulted from the escape of the variola virus from an ill-equipped laboratory in England. This is the reason the WHO placed such tight restrictions on containment of variola and reduced the number of laboratories that could retain the virus. The last supplies are kept in two locations: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta and the Russian State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology in Siberia (Miller, 1999).
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    Problem with smallpox is, just one person has to carry it...
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    ooooh. calm down turbo. I didn't say I didn't believe you, I was just wondering how you keep up on things like that. I wasn't making fun of you. just wondering. kick back man. have a cup of tea and chill out. you're a little too high strung today.

    thanks for the link. it sounds interesting.

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    There is also a book "Biohazard" by Ken Alibek with some information. He claims to have been a research scientist in the Soviet Union working on biological weapons before he defected. He claims the Soviet Union had weaponized smallpox on hand in several different facilities. It is an interesting book, but he paints the US to be a bit too innocent in the realm of biowarfare for my taste. If even one third of what he wrote about is true it is mighty scary.

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    This is getting to be one scary world we live in...


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    Originally posted by YanksFanRy
    This is getting to be one scary world we live in...
    It was always this scary, we just dint realize it. Check that, if you live in the US, it's probably a million times scarier than you could ever imagine. But we'll roll with it, like we always have and always will.
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