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    Post drugging of suspects ok'ed by court

    http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/temp/0308-140.html

    AAPS: Unlimited Forced Drugging OK'd By Court
    Physician Group Calls Ruling 'Shocking & Inhumane'

    WASHINGTON, March 8 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Defendants can be
    forcibly drugged even though they haven't been convicted of any
    charges and pose no danger to themselves or others. That's the
    ruling issued yesterday by the Federal Court of Appeals for the
    Eighth Circuit in the case of United States vs. Charles Thomas
    Sell. (see http://www.ca8.uscourts.gov/opndir/02/03/011862P.pdf)
    The 2-1 split decision establishes government power to forcibly
    medicate a person with mind-altering drugs even before trial.

    "It's a shocking, inhumane decision. Now, all the government
    needs are allegations and a cooperative psychiatrist to forcibly
    drug any citizen," said Andrew Schlafly, general counsel for the
    Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS). That group
    filed an amicus brief opposing the government drugging.

    "It's unprecedented to allow prosecutors to drug peaceful
    defendants presumed to be innocent. Government cannot force
    citizens to pledge allegiance to the flag, but now can forcibly
    medicate them with mind-altering drugs," said Schlafly.

    Dr. Sell, a St. Louis dentist, has been imprisoned for more than
    4 years, including 1-1/2-half years in solitary confinement after
    being charged with Medicaid fraud. He has never been brought to
    trial.

    While acknowledging that "the evidence does not support a
    finding that Sell posed a danger to himself or others" the majority
    opinion still found that "charges of fraud" alone are "serious"
    enough to justify forced medication. Further, the Court held that
    there are no limits on the quantity or type of drugs.

    "There's no good reason why Dr. Sell has been held so long
    without trial, and this decision will most likely prolong his
    imprisonment with no end in sight," said Schlafly. The dissenting
    judge pointed out that even if Dr. Sell were to be found guilty,
    his sentence would be no more than 41 months -- one year less than
    he's already served.

    A similar case is pending before the same court to allow the
    state to forcibly medicate a convicted murderer for execution.

    "It's appalling that the court will drug a man presumed to be
    innocent, even if it's illegal to do the same thing to a convicted
    killer," Schlafly said. He said that AAPS will seek to overturn the
    ruling.

    AAPS is a non-partisan, dues-supported professional association
    of physicians in all practices and specialties, dedicated since
    1943 to protecting the sanctity of the patient-physician
    relationship from third-party interference.

    For more information on Dr. Sell's case, see
    http://www.aapsonline.org and click on "Court Okays Forced
    Drugging"
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    that's ****in' bull****....

    is this for better "homland security"

    pffft...

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    that is absolutely insane. i do not understand why a non-violent prisoner would need to be medicated anyway.
    ok, that decision just pisses me off.

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    wow.

    i'm going to accuse all the judges who made that decision of murder.
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    Originally posted by welfareloser
    wow.

    i'm going to accuse all the judges who made that decision of murder.
    I wouldn't say murder... that's a little extreme... but.... there is obviously nothing nice to say about their decision

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    Originally posted by Nija


    I wouldn't say murder... that's a little extreme... but.... there is obviously nothing nice to say about their decision
    Nijni, get a clue...she's saying she would accuse them of murder so THEY can be drugged...and personally face the consequences of a decision they made...
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    Originally posted by Two Cents


    Nijni, get a clue...she's saying she would accuse them of murder so THEY can be drugged...and personally face the consequences of a decision they made...
    Yeah come on Nijni get a damn clue!!!


    Anyways I would have to say that this is absolutely rediculous. All this homeland security junk is going to far. I am not willing to give up so many freedoms in the name of homeland security.

    Why do I have a feeling that in a couple of years we'll be hearing about the Bush Jr. impeechment trial for constitutional violations in the name of homeland security?

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    Originally posted by Wizard


    Yeah come on Nijni get a damn clue!!!


    Anyways I would have to say that this is absolutely rediculous. All this homeland security junk is going to far. I am not willing to give up so many freedoms in the name of homeland security.

    Why do I have a feeling that in a couple of years we'll be hearing about the Bush Jr. impeechment trial for constitutional violations in the name of homeland security?
    this has nothing to do with homeland security or bush. he's been in for 4 yrs.
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    Originally posted by flojo
    this has nothing to do with homeland security or bush. he's been in for 4 yrs.
    Bah you and your technicalities. I like blaming bad things on Bush. He's easy to blame things on, and plus he looks like a monkey. And we all like monkeys. Actually I think that's half the reason people voted for him, they subconciously were reminded of a monkey when they looked at him and since everyone likes monkeys they voted for him.

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    Pleading the 5th? Bah... we haven't had to worry about that ever since they decided it was legal to "medicate" the defendant.

    A little sodium pentathol goes a long way towards make the case...


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    ah well, I didn't want any civil rights anyway...I'd just abuse them.
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    Originally posted by LPMiller
    ah well, I didn't want any civil rights anyway...I'd just abuse them.
    HAHAHAHA... That was excellent.

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