you want rare meat? sign this waiver...

**mojo** · 03-18-2002, 08:41 PM

http://www.reuters.co.uk/news_articl...StoryID=708229

Diners handed rare meat forms

17 March, 2002 03:33 GMT

LONDON (Reuters) - Some restaurants are forcing customers who like their meat rare to sign a disclaimer form before eating due to fears of E-coli and salmonella poisoning.

The Sunday Times said restaurants including food chains Planet Hollywood, All Bar One and Shoeless Joe's were prepared to serve rare hamburgers, sausages or minced beef only if diners complete forms giving up rights to take legal action.

People eating minced beef which is pink in the middle are much more likely to be poisoned by E-coli or salmonella.

The new practice has been blamed on advice from the government's food safety watchdog saying that minced meat should only be served when it is well-done.

The warning does not apply to ordinary steaks, because they only carry bacteria on the outside and this is killed by cooking.

Egon Ronay, the restaurant critic, attacked the disclaimers: "I don't know where it will all stop -- soon you might have to fill in a huge form before setting foot in a restaurant."

**brain** · 03-18-2002, 08:43 PM

I like my steaks medium rare... And I love steak tartar

**NuTs62** · 03-18-2002, 09:19 PM

i like mine moo'in! luckily the meat contamination and outbreak is over there, not in the U.S.

**coleslaw** · 03-18-2002, 09:45 PM

This is about ground beef guys, not steaks. It's OK to eat steaks undercooked. I love my steaks bloody. However, ground beef should always be cooked to at least medium-well because its processing allows contaminants to enter. Trust me, I used to cook steaks for three years at a "restaurant". 155 degrees at the center to kill all of the baddies.

**topane** · 03-19-2002, 05:09 AM

I usually get my beef medium rare, although I have had steak tartar and some japanese thing (sorry, can't remember the name), which is basically raw meat. IMO, once beef gets past a certain temperature, it loses a lot of tenderness and flavor. Besides, a little e coli is good for you.

**BigJon** · 03-19-2002, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by DarkFury
Make mine Medium to Medium Well.

Same here!

**Kim** · 03-19-2002, 06:04 AM

After the book I just read, it doesn't seem like a bad idea. Anyway, I like steaks med. rare, but hamburgers must be all the way cooked.

**LPMiller** · 03-19-2002, 10:32 AM

I like my steaks begging for mercy.

**molecularfire** · 03-19-2002, 11:02 AM

Mmmm... Blood...

Love steaks rare/medium rare. I personally think it's better to get bloody steaks because if part of the steak is messed up, you can see just by looking at it. Can't really tell on a well done steak if they used old meat. Burgers I like well done, though. Even I'm not that nuts.

**NuTs62** · 03-19-2002, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by topane
I usually get my beef medium rare, although I have had steak tartar and some japanese thing (sorry, can't remember the name), which is basically raw meat. IMO, once beef gets past a certain temperature, it loses a lot of tenderness and flavor. Besides, a little e coli is good for you.

i hate when ya gotta struggle just to cut the meat. And if gets too tough, its more chewy than anything.

Originally posted by molecularfire
Burgers I like well done, though. Even I'm not that nuts.

whatcha tryin to say here!

I like it jus a lil cooked.. The middle should still have a lil red.. then thats perfecto =)

**Jenny** · 03-19-2002, 11:49 AM

No, No, No! I will not eat meat if it still has blood. Ewwww!

It just seriously grosses me out. Dunno why...

Hamburgers have to be cooked (I usually ask for medium well, because that takes the pink out but doesn't make them burned.

). Steaks the same. I don't want any red and a LITTLE pink is ok, but... I am not a huge steak fan anyway. It has to be cooked really well for me to like it. (Seasoned well, etc.). (I know, I know. I'm going to hell for not liking steaks!

)

**Merlin** · 03-19-2002, 12:25 PM

It's got to be cooked long enough to cover up the marks left where the jockey was whipping it.

**Merlin** · 03-19-2002, 01:14 PM

Originally posted by DarkFury

... We save those for "White Castles".

Hello Wilbur!!!!

Ahhh, Chateau Blanc. Fine dining indeed.

**leemaj** · 03-19-2002, 03:38 PM

bleh..i like mine well done.

**Thunder** · 03-19-2002, 03:52 PM

medium-rare for steaks
medium for prime rib
...yum!!!

**whitak24** · 03-20-2002, 08:09 AM

i like my veggie burgers medium-well

**whitak24** · 03-20-2002, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by cpugeek04

hell, those things you could eat raw

it was a joke. therefore the "

" after it

do i need to include some "[sarcasm][/sarcasm]" tags for ya, cpu?

**Speedfreak** · 03-20-2002, 09:10 AM

[Ghandi2]Gimme a steak, medium rare.[/Ghandi2]

**whitak24** · 03-20-2002, 10:12 AM

Originally posted by DarkFury

Now, now... put that thing away before you hurt yourself with it.

i heard that cpu's mom said the same thing to him last night

**jujubees** · 03-20-2002, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by topane
Once beef gets past a certain temperature, it loses a lot of tenderness and flavor.

Exactamundo! I like my steaks medium rare.

If I wanted to chew a cud, I'd mozy over to the pasture, thankyouverymuch.

**whitak24** · 03-20-2002, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by cpugeek04

snipped: random flailing by cpugeek

too bad i didn't feel any of that. remember the shield?

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