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    Attention all Rednecks! Research downplays risk of cousin marriages!

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    Marriage between first cousins, long a major legal, social and religious taboo, is far less likely to produce abnormal children than is commonly believed, a study by leading genetics researchers says.

    ''Stigma still attaches to these unions,'' says Robin Bennett, a genetics counselor at the University of Washington and the study's lead author.

    ''But there's no good social or biological reason that should be. . . . There's a lot of misinformation out there that is really holding back some cousins who want to try to have children,'' Bennett says.

    Bennett's team, which included researchers from Stanford University and the National Society of Genetic Counselors, spent more than two years studying health statistics on the offspring of first-cousin marriages in North America, Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

    The researchers concluded that children of marriages between cousins inherited recessive genetic disorders, such as cystic fibrosis and Tay-Sachs disease, in 7% to 8% of cases. For the general population, the rate was 5%.

    The study suggests that doctors and genetics counselors not discourage cousins from procreating. Instead, it says, they should take family disease histories and offer ordinary genetic services such as fetal and newborn disease testing.

    The study is in the April edition of the Journal of Genetic Counseling.

    Despite the findings, some genetics specialists say they will continue to urge caution.

    ''A 7 to 8% chance (of genetic disorder) is 50% greater than a 5% chance,'' says Philip Reilly, geneticist and author of Abraham Lincoln's DNA, a popular history of human genetics.

    ''That's a significant difference. People counseling first cousins who want to marry need to be very careful and clear on this,'' Reilly says.

    Scientists say there are at least 5,000 diseases caused by inherited mutations called recessive genes. Possessing a single copy of the mutation is often harmless, but if a copy is inherited from each parent, the result can be death or chronic disease. Because first cousins share a pair of grandparents, the chances are greater that each will pass a copy of a ''bad gene'' to their child, triggering the disorder.

    Cousin marriage has been widespread in rural societies, where it serves to keep money and property within families. The practice is still popular in much of the Muslim world, including Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Genetics researcher Alan Bittles estimates that 20% of marriages worldwide are between relatives who are first cousins.

    Genetics counselors say there are no exact figures for the USA, but experience suggests that about one marriage in 1,000 is between first cousins. Jewish and Christian traditions discourage cousin marriage. The Roman Catholic Church requires cousins to get special permission before they marry.

    In Brooklyn, N.Y., a rabbi maintains a database that allows Jews to see whether a potential marriage partner carries the recessive gene for Tay-Sachs, a fatal enzyme disorder that is prevalent in Jewish families.

    Thirty states do not permit first-cousin marriages.
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    hmm.. where are them cute cousins of mine..? i'm not a redneck! doh! was i just considering that? oh boy! hope no one hears bout this!

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    Bad Kevster!

    We should under NO cricumstances let these people think it's ok for them to reproduce.
    :monkey:

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    hey, i'm a redneck! ... and my 16 year old cousin is one hot little dude
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    Originally posted by Merlin
    Bad Kevster!

    We should under NO cricumstances let these people think it's ok for them to reproduce.
    Come on! This is endorsed by doctors! Real ones - with accents!

    Let the mullets multiply!
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    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


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    Originally posted by cpugeek04

    i'm 16, i'm hot
    heh, i don't go for white chocolate... the darker the better!

    (and no, i can't explain the current scanderhoovian bf... he got me in a moment of weakness, i guess )

    EDIT: NO, wait, i remember! he was in halloween makeup when we hooked up! that was it! that's the only reason i went for a paleface! he was hiding behind black-and-white jack skellington makeup!
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    Originally posted by cpugeek04

    dark, if this isn't an opening i don't know what is
    all i can think of is juniorfury and evilgremlin beating the poop out of each other if we ever attempted a hook-up (and i have a good guess as to which one would win too, and i'm not bettin on the skinny one... that's why i'm teachin eg to RUN...)
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    Originally posted by Merlin
    Bad Kevster!

    We should under NO cricumstances let these people think it's ok for them to reproduce.


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    Originally posted by Kevster
    Let the mullets multiply!
    Just you remember that next time you go to the DMW or Post Office.

    He he - off da hook!
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    "But there's no good social or biological reason that should be. . . . There's a lot of misinformation out there that is really holding back some cousins who want to try to have children," Bennett says.
    why? why? why are there "some cousins who want to try to have children"?

    were these researchers products of "in-family" marriages who just want to justify their existance? i don't get it.

    i'm from a "redneck" part of the world, but even where i'm from keeping the genes in the family is pretty frowned-upon.

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    Whoohoo...can't you hear all the Utahns cheering!
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    Originally posted by cpugeek04
    Wanna see my hard drive? I promise it ain't 3 1/2 inches and it ain't floppy.

    it's a joke btw.
    i can't believe you described your member as "a joke"
    say "hi" to lumbergh for me

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    Originally posted by welfareloser
    EDIT: NO, wait, i remember! he was in halloween makeup when we hooked up! that was it! that's the only reason i went for a paleface! he was hiding behind black-and-white jack skellington makeup!
    i thought you told me something else

    i'm prolly wrong tho
    say "hi" to lumbergh for me

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    Unfortunately, this happens all to often in the back woods of California...
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    Originally posted by DarkFury

    WHOA!!! Ladogaboy is back!

    Where ya been d00d...
    After getting my new SBC connection, I surfed to the end of the internet and had to turn back...

    haha, actually, I've been on a job hunt that ended only semi-successfully...

    Plus, my GF came up for a week during that time...
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    Now see, sbp, you might not have to cancel your wedding after all!

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    Well the last line got my attention. If 30 states outlaw first cousin marriages, I like to know what the other states that do . I thought it was outlawed in every state.

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    Originally posted by Kim
    Whoohoo...can't you hear all the Utahns cheering!
    :laugh2:

    As far as California is concerned, I know they're probably celebrating in Shasta, Trinity, Modoc, Sutter & Yuba County right now...
    I think over again
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    The small ones that seemed so big,
    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


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