Are they permanently banned? It's been a week... Ahd they still haven't posted and they stil have the banned rank.
Are they permanently banned? It's been a week... Ahd they still haven't posted and they stil have the banned rank.
This is what happened:Originally posted by xsiled2
what happened?
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showth...threadid=45841
Personally I think passwird should be unbanned. He told me that he hadn't read the no n00b-flaming penalty or something as it had just been put up recently and he wasn't even posting with malice - considering there was a smily there anyway. Whatever, it don't mean a thang anyway.
I'm sure they will be back...



Oh sure, passwird this and passwird that. Is there no love in the room for revil?


Your name was in the title too, dude.Originally posted by revil
Oh sure, passwird this and passwird that. Is there no love in the room for revil?![]()



ya, but all they could do was talk about you. either we have alot of pedofiles on this board or... well i guess there isn't anything else i wanted to say.Originally posted by passwird
Your name was in the title too, dude.![]()
Welcome back, fellas. Let's try to keep such things from happen in the future, though, mmm'kay?![]()
A priest, a paladin and Varimathras walk into a bar...


I don't think the one sentence that I said warranted a 1-week ban, but mmm'kay.Originally posted by coleslaw
Welcome back, fellas. Let's try to keep such things from happen in the future, though, mmm'kay?![]()
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Drugs are bad. mmmkay.Originally posted by passwird
I don't think the one sentence that I said warranted a 1-week ban, but mmm'kay.![]()



I'm tempted to rant on this subject, but i'll wait till i get a weeks worth of posts in....Originally posted by passwird
I don't think the one sentence that I said warranted a 1-week ban, but mmm'kay.![]()
guess i'll take this as my cue to leave...nobody would notice anyway
guess i'll retire to the chat...where i'm recognized and somewhat liked
example:
Corsec has changed the topic on channel #Got|Apex? to [09:51] Someone said that aglio is busy peeling his nuts from the inside of Corsec's thigh; [09:52] that hurts; [09:52] rip it quickly then all at once



Who are you?Originally posted by aglio412
guess i'll take this as my cue to leave...nobody would notice anyway![]()
Whoops, sorry, I knew i forgot about someone....![]()
Please make not that since the bans have been lifted, the protest for tomorrow is cancelled. Damn, I had be rehearsing the "No justice. No peace." chant all week. Oh, well. They'll be another cause.
Originally posted by DarkFury
Well if you look back in the original "where are they now" thread, you'll see that I did in fact mention you.![]()
Welcome back guys!!!
It is not enough to merely touch the face of god; you also must open your eyes so that you may see your palm.



Naw, I just go where the bling bling is.Originally posted by chosenfool
he he! revil has some "paswird" envy...![]()



Now that I haven't slept In quite a while, I think it's time to formulate some sentences. Probably not the best idea in the world, but heck, I’ll give it a shot.
The main thing I have to say about this ordeal is: What the hell is wrong with Apex?
I mean I agree with him that there shouldn’t be any bashing of the new members. That’s just being a dick and that’s not cool at all. But, when current forum members are telling a new one that he is being rude and Apex sticks up for the rude new guy, it implies something. At least it implied something to me: Apex doesn’t really care about the current forum members, so long as new ones join that’s all that really matters.
I’ll give you an example and it’s the only one that I can think of off hand (it’s me). Let me give you a little history. This guy, who happens to be new, is being a general ass in this one thread. To protect his name, lets call him 000zsuiraM. 000zsuiraM was very upset about not being able to get a deal. People were saying some things, and his replies were ALWAYS sarcastic and generally rude, which makes him look like an ass. This is what confused me about this guy. He joins the forums to discuss the matter but instead he ends up picking a fight with the people on here. I didn’t think that was cool at all. So this is the post I made:
(btw, he used lol a lot, it was rather humorous)Ok, I think you are the first person I have met that uses Lol like it was a word. I didn't think anyone could use lol more then jenny.
Oh, and you should probably stop trying to make enemies here. We're not your enemy.
He promptly replies with:
He took it WAY out of context of what I meant. So I felt obligated to reply, since he did ask, “How am I trying to make enemies?” So I respond with this:You got me on this one. How am I trying to make enemies? Are you saying the people who disagree with me will be my enemies? I am not close-minded (maybe opinionated) and understand that most won't go through the trouble of filing complaints, writing emails and letters, but rather will "let this one go." Those people are too kind and Amazon.com is taking advantage of their kindness. I am just standing up for what I believe. Honestly, I have never seen people get called "bitching and moaning cry babies," for trying to change something that's wrong. I'm not some type of a leader, fighter, or magician who will revolutionize the world and change the future, but a regular consumer who will actually do something about this situation. Regardless of the result or actions of others. I also refuse to sit quiet while some are giving us the "You can't do nothing about it-get over it-cause they can do whatever they want" speeches.
Oh...wait...LOL.![]()
It was simple and to the point. I meant no harm by this post; it was there simply to explain to 000zsuiraM that his attitude on the forum isn’t helping him prove his point, but rather it is making people upset.Um, perhaps by the sarcastic responses you give. To be honest, from your postings, you seem to me to be an ass. I'm sure your a nice person, but your postings sure don't express that.Originally posted by 000zsuiraM
You got me on this one. How am I trying to make enemies?
Oh...wait...LOL.![]()
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Apex said in this thread before I posted my last response:
Now as for Apex’s banning spree, I don’t know if passwird or agilo deserved to be banned or whatnot, so I won’t discuss that. But as for his banning of me for my post I think is downright absurd. I want to know how I was mistreating him. I treated him like I would treat anybody else. I did not give an unwelcoming atmosphere. I gave some advice and that's all. Hell, if grimm, dopey, jenny, or ANYONE else was acting like 000zsuiraM, I would have said the same thing.Anyone mistreating newbies will be dragged out back and ticked until he or she urinates uncontrollably in his or her shorts. We have warned you in the past that those contributing to an unwelcoming atmosphere to newcomers will be given some time to sit by themselves. This time, this is your only warning.
This brought my respect for Apex down quite a bit. I can’t respect a person who defends rude people just because they are new over current members and then further embarrass the current member by banning them. What even brought my respect for Apex to an all-new low is my conversation with him on ICQ:
No response after that. Very rude. So it’s obvious Apex doesn’t care about me at all, because even though i'm gone there's a new member that will replace me. I won’t be surprised if he bans me again for this ranting. I suppose if he does, I just give him the big ol’ FU and walk away. I don't need to deal with this sh*t. If that's all I get here for expressing my opinion, then goodbye and good riddance. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, because I like this community a lot... even though the owner is a dick.[revil] heya. I'm just curious what I said that was so bad to get me banned. I don't think I said anything out of line.
[apex] Revil, banned 6/21/02:
http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showt...=&postid=381597 <http://www.gotapex.com/forums/showth...&postid=381597>
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Originally posted by Mariusz000
You got me on this one. How am I trying to make enemies?
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Um, perhaps by the sarcastic responses you give. To be honest, from your postings, you seem to me to be an ass. I'm sure your a nice person, but your postings sure don't express that.
[revil] Why was that inappropriate?
Ok, I’m done ranting.
well, i'm glad that pass, revil, and aglio are all back. it's just disappointing because all three of you are a real big part of this forums. i know that i've seen all three of your posts in just about every forum, and the best thing for a good forums is people that keep it alive. i know i don't know the whole story, i pretty much missed the whole damn thing. but i'm glad y'all (<---country grammer)are back. the feeling i get is that you guys got banned for something that wasn't warrented. i mean, i remember when people like xsiled got banned and he was truely remorseful, so i suppose in that case he did something wrong (or maybe my memory is shotty)...but this case does have a hint of absurdity.
Originally posted by DarkFury
Wow... this is a tough one.
Granted... this is Apex's house, and we're his guests, therefore I do respect his decisions. However, I do see revil's points (although I don't think it wise to call the site owner "out of his name" on this... since that might be fatal) and I truly hope that this can come to a resolution short of being banned or him walking away.
We're family here people...![]()
I can understand your points too, revil, and I even empathize with you on some levels. However, you must also look at it from Apex's point of view: he might have just been trying to curb a situation before it started; he might even have just gotten a little short because he was upset about the entire situation himself. Either way, though, you should probably take it as a compliment--Apex is showing a great deal of respect for you three by holding you to a higher standard. n00bs are, by definition, new, and they don't necessarily know the rules yet. You three are all long time members, and shouldn't need to be warned. Therefore, an older member will always get banned before a newer member. Just some things to think about.
Also, one last thing. You've made a very logical and concise argument for why you shouldn't have been banned, and you deserve an explanation, whether it be here or in PM. BUT, by getting too emotional towards the end, and saying some things that you probably shouldn't have said, you've gone and completely f'ed up your argument. My suggestion: edit.
It is not enough to merely touch the face of god; you also must open your eyes so that you may see your palm.



I'm suprised it was even logical. I was sooooooooooooooo tired when i wrote that. but if you notice at the top of my post it says "my rant," not "my logical argument." I was rather pissed at Apex when I wrote that and I think it conveys it.Originally posted by Ladogaboy
Also, one last thing. You've made a very logical and concise argument for why you shouldn't have been banned, and you deserve an explanation, whether it be here or in PM. BUT, by getting too emotional towards the end, and saying some things that you probably shouldn't have said, you've gone and completely f'ed up your argument. My suggestion: edit.
well, i'm glad the three of you weren't permanently banned and were allowed to return to share your wit and wisdom with all of us
i see where you're coming from revil......i too find it hard to be super-nice to n00bs who come in and are complete asses to everyone.
but at the same time, apex is just trying to do what he thinks is going to make this a good community. at least the damage wasn't permanent.....
Rant or logical thought, what's the purpose of calling someone/anyone (in this case Apex) a dick? In most any civilization, society or community, there's plenty of room for disagreement -- for voicing displeasure with decisions made by decisionmakers. To resort to name-calling like that is juvenile. Personally, I hope that nothing bad comes of it, but it could. There are generally consequences to actions or words like those contained in the rant. Sometimes those consequences aren't commensurate to the intent of the words or actions, but that's the price to be paid, and that's a lesson I've learned first-hand. I don't mean to be a prude but the use of such terms doesn't cast anyone in the best light, most notably the person using them.
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