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    Music industry swamps swap networks with phony files

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    Major record labels have launched an aggressive new guerrilla assault on the underground music networks, flooding online swapping services with bogus copies of popular songs.

    The online music sites know they're under attack. Darrell Smith, chief technical officer of StreamCast Networks, parent of the popular file-swapping service Morpheus, said he first noticed the practice about a year ago, but chalked it up to ``rogue teenage hackers just being obnoxious.

    ``It's more prevalent in the last three months,'' he said. ``It's gotten real, real, real severe.''

    Sources at three major labels admit they're deluging popular services like Morpheus, Kazaa and Grokster with thousands of decoy music files that look identical to a sought-after song, but are filled with long minutes of silence -- or 30-second loops of a song's chorus.

    By making stealing more of a hassle, they hope to persuade more people to shell out for a CD at the local record store.

    The practice is called ``spoofing'' and it is widespread. Over the last three months, virtually any song destined for the Billboard pop music charts has been spoofed, the sources say.

    ``Several of the labels are doing it with every release,'' said one record label executive speaking on condition of anonymity. ``We're not using any of this with any kind of promotion or marketing in mind. We're doing this simply because we believe people are stealing our stuff and we want to stymie the stealing.''

    This ``fight theft with deception'' initiative is a tacit acknowledgment by the industry that legal victories are not enough to stop the wildfire popularity of online music swapping, which researcher Ipsos-Reid estimates now attracts 40 million users in the United States alone.

    Taken together with the growth in sales of recordable compact discs and burners, it is fueling an epidemic of piracy that the labels blame for a 16 percent drop in global music sales.

    ``From the outset, it's been very clear that one of the only ways -- as a practical matter -- to deal with the peer-to-peer problem is by means of technological measures,'' said Cary Sherman, president of the Recording Industry Association of America, the leading trade group for the labels. ``There are certainly mechanisms that are available -- that are completely lawful, such as spoofing.''

    Smith, from StreamCast, said the network is being flooded with bogus files -- all coming from sources that can marshal massive amounts of bandwidth and banks of computers occupying a narrow range of Internet addresses. It's clearly intended to disrupt the file-sharing network, he said.

    No one expects spoofing to deter hard-core pirates, who download entire CDs or feature films from online sources that require sophisticated knowledge of file-transfer protocols or Internet Relay Chat trigger commands.

    ``This is putting your finger in the dike,'' said Bruce Forest, a noted Internet piracy expert. ``This is going to slow down piracy a bit. It isn't going to stop it.''

    But the labels hope to discourage mainstream users from turning to popular file-swapping services rather than the local record store for their copy of Sheryl Crow's ``Soak Up the Sun.''

    ``Things got out of balance. It's too easy to find pirated music,'' said Josh Bernoff, an analyst for Forrester Research in Cambridge, Mass. ``Now, they're moving the balance back in the other direction.''

    Label sources describe spoofing as only the first in a series of electronic countermeasures intended to frustrate the 18.7 million consumers who researcher comScore Media Metrix estimates turned to the digital underground last month to download bootleg copies of music, films, games and software.

    Some label execs say they're evaluating other technologies that would scramble search queries or add file attachments to make a compressed music file that would typically download in less than a minute ``move like molasses.''

    Those countermeasures could cross ``into a gray area as far as legality,'' admits another record executive who asked not to be named. He said frustrated record label employees could resort to such measures as propagating viruses, rationalizing `` `Hey, if you don't mind stealing my career and livelihood, I'm sure you don't mind if I destroy your hard drive.' ''

    Paving the way for more aggressive industry counterattacks, Beverly Hills congressman Howard Berman is preparing a bill that would let copyright owners, such as record labels or movie studios, launch high-tech attacks against file-swapping networks where their wares are traded.

    Berman said that copyright owners need new legal protections to combat online piracy. Some of the labels' and studios' high-tech tricks for stopping online file traders might be illegal under current anti-hacking laws.

    It's impossible to know whether these electronic countermeasures exist now or whether the labels are engaging in a bit of bravado, hoping to scare away would-be file-swappers.

    The leading vendors specializing in piracy detection -- Overpeer, Vidius, NetPD, Media Defender and MediaForce -- fall mute when it comes to revealing the names of their media clients or the nature of their work.

    In the spy-vs.-spy world that has become online piracy, online swapping sites are fighting back. The next version of Morpheus' software, due out in three months, will contain its own countermeasures in an attempt to foil the spoofers, StreamCast Network's Smith said.

    It will incorporate a rating mechanism that allows users to identify fake files and a method of certifying users as legitimate users.

    ``Without any checks and balances in place the individuals who are spoofing can create all types of havoc on files,'' said Smith.

    Precisely what the labels had in mind.

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    I was at a party last night and I brought up the topic of file swapping of music. Someone recently commented that the musicians ought to get used to making money the old fashioned way-"Work for it". I began wondering about this idea of spending a weekend or so in a recording studio so that you can possibly make millions of bucks down the road.
    One of the guys I was talking to said that technology invented the process, i.e. record players, cassettes and now CD's so that the musicians could capitalize on the mass distribution to the public.
    He stated that every technology has their peak and then changes to something else. We both agreed that the record companies, as well as the musicians should get used to the fact that instant downloads of information can not be thwarted, and that the old technology is being replaced.
    So I thought of a motto: "Technology Giveth and Technology Taketh Away"

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    i have gotten a couple fake songs but i can mostly tell which is real and which is fake. if over 100 people have the same song there is a good chance it is real. but if only 15 people have it then it probably isnt real or it is and i am a idiot. could always go on irc and get them so oh well. ive given the recording industry enough of my money. i have over 100 cds all bought at regular price. but that isnt enough for the greedy losers.
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    I got one of these about a week ago. I was downloading Eminem's Song - Superman. And instead, I got 5 Minutes and 34 Seconds of the Chorus just looping over and over. I blamed it on some dumb kid who was bored.
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    if I worked for a record lable, that is what I would do

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    Any way that we rationalize it (to be honest, our rationalizations have simply consisted of insulting the record companies), we are stealing their stuff and so should expect them to fight back. Let the games begin.
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    I've never had a problem with music... what's nice is both the feature of seeing how many people have the file - this is especially convenient on something like WinMX... or on Kazaa how people can add comments. In past weeks I've looked for copies of Grand Theft Auto (the PC game) and Men in Black II on Kazaa, and some very nice downloaders who had apparently gotten bogus copies of these files had chosen to keep the files but change comments to reflect that they were fake and to avoid downloading it. Needless to say I found what I was looking for, and Men in Black II kind sucks ass ;p

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    Originally posted by DoPeY5007
    if I worked for a record lable, that is what I would do
    Heh, if they want to do that, so be it, I don't mind. They still ain't gonna get me to suddenly start buying their CDs again.

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    Me neither, but they don't have to get everybody. They just have to stop most of the people with no computer skills.
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    Originally posted by DoPeY5007
    if I worked for a record lable, that is what I would do
    if i worked for one, i'd actually try to lower the prices of cds
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    At least this way, the records companies are impacting ONLY the people who cause them problems.

    With all the DRM stuff, and the copy-proof CDs, and the legislation, they harm not only the pirates, but the honest people as well.

    By going at it this way, plugging the channels with worthless crap, at least they only punish the people that are doing something illegal.

    I still think they're a bunch of sleazeballs, but I can't fault them for this method. It's fair.
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    Originally posted by jase71
    It's fair.
    it's misguided, too. there actually are people that trade files without malice. some already own the stuff, and some actually use it to sample music before they buy it. it's not so simple as just "they download it, so they're bad"
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    I say effem...the more they do sh*t like this... the harder i go for the "free" stuff. I mean come on, if your on a good cable or dsl line, how long does it take to d/l a song? Just keep on it till you get the right one, What's so hard about that?
    This ain't rocket science.

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    Originally posted by mojo
    it's misguided, too. there actually are people that trade files without malice. some already own the stuff, and some actually use it to sample music before they buy it. it's not so simple as just "they download it, so they're bad"
    True... I'm one who tends to sample music before I buy it. That's my primary use of the file swapping services.

    As for downloading stuff they already own, I do a lot of that too. It's easier than ripping it sometimes... especially if it's just one song I want off of a compilation album I have buried somewhere.

    But I couldn't tell you the legality of downloading a song I legally own versus being required to make my own file from a copy I actually possess. I don't know if there's a difference, legally.

    I'd rather they just left the thing alone, really. I think file swapping helps them more than it hurts them. At least in my case, it's the ONLY reason I buy CDs anymore. I've got all the music I really want and need... the only new stuff I buy is things I've downloaded that I like enough to purchase. Without the downloads, I wouldn't have heard of them to buy them, and I wouldn't buy anything anymore.

    But if the industry is going to fight this battle, I'd rather see them do it this way, rather than in the courts and Congress.
    Technology is unbiased, and can be used against them as easily as for them. We stand a fair chance of staying ahead of the game.

    Congress on the other hand, is biased, and subject to large contributions, which they can make, and we can't. If they pursue this in Congress, the odds against us are much higher.
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    Originally posted by jase71
    With all the DRM stuff, and the copy-proof CDs, and the legislation, they harm not only the pirates, but the honest people as well.
    I think they also hurt themselves by doing this...
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    Originally posted by Ladogaboy


    I think they also hurt themselves by doing this...
    You're absolutely right. They'll hurt themselves tremendously. They'll upset their customers, and people will stop, or at least slow down their CD purchases.

    Unfortunately, RIAA will see the slowing sales as evidence of more and more piracy, not as evidence of customer dissatisfaction with their products.
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    BNL did that before they released Maroon (the most recent album). They released 3 of songs onto Napster (cause it was still alive back then). I downloaded them knowing they were fake because they were humorous- Steve and Ty talked over most of the song. Of course, had someone unwittingly downloaded it, I could see how it would be annoying.

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    Originally posted by chosenfool


    ehh, i go to Tunes here, and buy their used CDs instead. maybe 2 for $5 or $4.99 each. or go to bestbuy or circuitcity and get their CDs when theyre on sale for real cheap. nothing over $10.

    yes, i buy CDs. why?

    i dont like the way the mp3s are ripped anyway - they dont have the fidelity and sound quality i need to hear in a track. I like to rip it my own way (VBR using EAC and LAME) - theyre huge files for a simple mp3, which for some reason no one wants to make that way. Its much better sounding. assclowns....
    Thats how DoPeY does it if i'm not mistaken.

    and whats with the new word "assclowns"..? some new lingo that you just created? Or am I not up with the times..?

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    Originally posted by NuTs62
    and whats with the new word "assclowns"..? some new lingo that you just created? Or am I not up with the times..?
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    i had the same problem with the eminem cd. I really hate it when you download a song that says its tom petty singing a dylan cover, but it turns out to be bob dylan singing his own song. Or you download a song that is actually a different song by the same artist. bastards

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    Originally posted by ribitch
    i had the same problem with the eminem cd. I really hate it when you download a song that says its tom petty singing a dylan cover, but it turns out to be bob dylan singing his own song. Or you download a song that is actually a different song by the same artist. bastards
    Actually, that might not be the record companies. Some people just don't label their files correctly.

    You're absolutely right. They'll hurt themselves tremendously. They'll upset their customers, and people will stop, or at least slow down their CD purchases.
    A little late for them to be thinking of this now don't you think?
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    Originally posted by coleslaw
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    Originally posted by molecularfire


    A little late for them to be thinking of this now don't you think?
    No one's ever accused RIAA of being exceptionally smart... just greedy.
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    Originally posted by NuTs62


    *wears a helmet* i have it, but never watched *runs*

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    i am curious why the RIAA hasnt just written a virus that attacks just MP3's with a certain name (say metallica) and just jumbles up the file. they have the cash that would pay off the system

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    Originally posted by ribitch
    i am curious why the RIAA hasnt just written a virus that attacks just MP3's with a certain name (say metallica) and just jumbles up the file. they have the cash that would pay off the system
    Ever tried to write a cross-platform virus (Win, OSX, Linux) that can get past virus scanners, built-in OS security (permissions, etc.), and yet be small an easily transferable?

    Add to that that there are billions of perfectly legal MP3s out there, and if RIAA was behind the destruction of any of them, they'd have lawsuits coming out their ears.

    Viruses are indiscriminate. Once they're out, you can't control them.
    RIAA would be setting themselves up for a meltdown of Enronic proportions if they released a virus like that...
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    it was just a thought that I always have. Sure they can get into all kinds of crap. But there are several people thoughout the world that wouldnt mind writing one for the right amount of cash. It would be obvious if they paid it all at once, but there are ways around that. Like fixed contests

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    Originally posted by jase71
    RIAA would be setting themselves up for a meltdown of Enronic proportions if they released a virus like that...
    don't suggest such a possibility. it does too much to get my hopes up falsely

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    Michael Jackson is right (crazy as a MF'er, but right). The record industry and the weasels that run it are the equivalent of slave-owners or those that facilitated indentured servitude in the past. If artists were honestly compensated for their work, I would have some degree of empathy for the record companies. As it is, they do nothing more than exploit artists and collude against the public in the price-fixing of CDs.


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