Too poor to get high? Read on...

[mcs328]

Linky

From CNN:

KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) -- Faced with some of the world's strictest anti-drug laws, some addicts in Malaysia are sniffing fresh cow dung to get high.

An official at the National Narcotics Agency said Thursday the problem was small but growing among addicts who cannot buy drugs.

Trade Minister Rafidah Aziz was quoted in The New Straits Times newspaper Wednesday as saying she wanted the government to deal with addicts who sniff cow dung, glue and even polystyrene smoke.

She did not elaborate.

"The cow dung emits gases like sulfur, and addicts sniff on these gases to get high," the official at the agency said on condition of anonymity.

Despite harsh anti-narcotics laws that call for death by hanging for drug traffickers, Malaysia does not have legislation to cover such acts as cow dung sniffing, the official said.

"The problem is not very serious yet, but we are worried as this method means addicts can get high for free," the official said.

Malaysia, a nation of 23 million people, had more than 200,000 drug addicts. About 40,000 of them are repeat users who had not kicked the habit despite undergoing government-funded rehabilitation programs.

Malaysia approved a law last month that allows for punishing hard-core addicts who repeatedly fail rehabilitation with five to 13 years in prison and six lashes from a rattan cane.

[topane]

I was gonna sniff some dung, but then I got high...

[ribitch]

i've heard of that before here in the states. People place a funnel over a fresh pile of cow $hit and inhale the fumes. I think its nasty, but it must work. Must be hell on your breath though

[DoPeY5007]

[jase71]

Oh sure... now we're going to have to outlaw cows.

They'll be considered paraphenalia...

[Hiro]

Originally posted by DoPeY5007

I don't even wanna know what the hell you would have to be thinking to go, "Hey, I am outta money, let's go sniff cow ****!!"

[ribitch]

Originally posted by Corsec



I don't even wanna know what the hell you would have to be thinking to go, "Hey, I am outta money, let's go sniff cow ****!!"

no kidding. what brainiac came up with that idea? i wonder if manure harvestors (the guys who buy manure from farmers and sell it as fertilizers) can be arrested for being a dealer. I can see the DEA raids now. LOL

[mcs328]

Linky

I think I like DF narcotics thread...seems a bit more worthwhile

[DoPeY5007]

Originally posted by ribitch

i wonder if manure harvestors (the guys who buy manure from farmers and sell it as fertilizers) can be arrested for being a dealer. I can see the DEA raids now. LOL

bwahahahaha that would be funny!!!

[jase71]

Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "This is some good $hit..."

[whitak24]

Originally posted by mcs328
Linky

I think I like DF narcotics thread...seems a bit more worthwhile

yeah, i mean, you can lick some boobies for free....

( . Y . )

[mojo]

Originally posted by jase71
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "This is some good $hit..."

actually, i doubt this has to do with getting high. i think they're really just pervs

[oblongmelon]

Originally posted by jase71
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "This is some good $hit..."

HAHAHAHAHAH! GOOD ONE!

[Kim]

OMG, now I know why my childhood on the ranch was so happy!

[molecularfire]

Well... you've gotta give malaysia some credit. They're doing better on the war on drugs than we are. Maybe we should consider some of their laws.

[DaFunkyUnit]

i was gonna go sniff some poo, but then i got high...
i was about to go sniff some glue, but then i got high...
even though my stanky ass is poor, i really tried. ohhh yeeea yea
i wanna get high, wanna get high, wanna get hiiiiigggh

[eSDee]

Cow **** doesn't smell that bad. They eat a ****load(literally) of grass, so their **** is less dense and pound for pound, much less smelly than human fecal matter.

Ok I grossed myself out

[Tommy Boomfiger]

ok SD, just how do you know that, do you go around smelling various fecal matter?

[brainsmile]

Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Cow **** doesn't smell that bad. They eat a ****load(literally) of grass, so their **** is less dense and pound for pound, much less smelly than human fecal matter.

Ok I grossed myself out

ha ha ha... that's funny EsDee. I've done that before as well. Grossed out myself... NOT smell poopy for a high.

Say No To Dung!

[Markel]

Originally posted by EsDeeLoco
Cow **** doesn't smell that bad. They eat a ****load(literally) of grass, so their **** is less dense and pound for pound, much less smelly than human fecal matter.

Ok I grossed myself out

You must have never been downwind of a feed lot.

[MadCool]

LOL That's the funniest news article that i read in a long time.

[Tuvi]

there is a city in peru that has a river running through it, and both are incredibly dirty and polluted. the people live in houses in the river for some reason. it's south of lima, so all of the sewage from there gets dumped into the river and sent to this city. the kids there are too poor to buy drugs, so when human fecal matter floats by, they catch it and scrape off some kind of fungus that grows on it and eat it. it's nasty, but the high lasts for like 3 days.

[Napoleon54]

Originally posted by molecularfire
Well... you've gotta give malaysia some credit. They're doing better on the war on drugs than we are. Maybe we should consider some of their laws.

I think this is a perfect example of why drug laws will never work. Look at Malaysia. So what, they're strict on drugs. Now their people sniff cow dung to get high. What're they going to do, ban cows? Ban glue? Ban hair spray? Where does this end? When will government realize that if people want to get high, they'll find a way to do it? At this point it's like a game- how can we circumvent the laws and get high? Gee, isn't this fun- the government says not to get high but we found a way to do it anyway. Hahaha, aren't we so smart. Yeah, we're hella cool, we found new ways to get high. Nobody tells us what we can and can't do, eh?

100 years ago there was no drug problem. Any 4 year old child could walk into a drug store and buy cocaine, morphine, etc. These substances only began to be abused when laws were passed to restrict their use. Coincidence? Not likely.

[molecularfire]

Originally posted by Napoleon54


I think this is a perfect example of why drug laws will never work. Look at Malaysia. So what, they're strict on drugs. Now their people sniff cow dung to get high. What're they going to do, ban cows? Ban glue? Ban hair spray? Where does this end? When will government realize that if people want to get high, they'll find a way to do it? At this point it's like a game- how can we circumvent the laws and get high? Gee, isn't this fun- the government says not to get high but we found a way to do it anyway. Hahaha, aren't we so smart. Yeah, we're hella cool, we found new ways to get high. Nobody tells us what we can and can't do, eh?

100 years ago there was no drug problem. Any 4 year old child could walk into a drug store and buy cocaine, morphine, etc. These substances only began to be abused when laws were passed to restrict their use. Coincidence? Not likely.

1) I seriously doubt that 100 years ago, a 4 year old child could walk into a drug store and buy cocaine or morphine. Also, you're not taking into account the fact that 100 years ago, there wasn't access to these drugs because technology hadn't shrunk the world yet. Also, I doubt that china would agree with you that these substances were only abused when laws were passed to restrict their use. Heck, all the european nations had to do to take out china was to set up a distribution system for pumping drugs into the country. They were abused even 100 years ago... it's just that nobody cared enough to do anything about it.

2) I do not consider a drug control policy that is so effective that the only way for people to get high is to sniff dung as a failure. That's like saying that if we cured all diseases, and people still died of telomerase shrinkage at the age of 300 or so that medical science has failed. I think they did a good job in fighting drugs in their country (a heck of a lot better than we have been doing) and should be given their props.

[Napoleon54]

This summarizes my views of drug prohibition better than my own words ever could.

The Lessons of Prohibition
In the 1920's, alcohol was made illegal by Prohibition. The result: Organized Crime. Criminals jumped at the chance to supply the demand for liquor. The streets became battlegrounds. The criminals bought off law enforcement and judges. Adulterated booze blinded and killed people. Civil rights were trampled in the hopeless attempt to keep people from drinking.

When the American people saw what Prohibition was doing to them, they supported its repeal. When they succeeded, most states legalized liquor and the criminal gangs were out of the liquor business.

Today's war on drugs is a re-run of Prohibition. Approximately 40 million Americans are occasional, peaceful users of some illegal drug who are no threat to anyone. They are not going to stop. The laws don't, and can't, stop drug use.

Organized Crime Profits
Whenever there is a great demand for a product and government makes it illegal, a black market always appears to supply the demand. The price of the product rises dramatically and the opportunity for huge profits is obvious. The criminal gangs love the situation, making millions. They kill other drug dealers, along with innocent people caught in the crossfire, to protect their territory. They corrupt police and courts. Pushers sell adulterated dope and experimental drugs, causing injury and death. And because drugs are illegal, their victims have no recourse.

Crime Increases
Half the cost of law enforcement and prisons is squandered on drug related crime. Of all drug users, a relative few are addicts who commit crimes daily to supply artificially expensive habits. They are the robbers, car thieves and burglars who make our homes and streets unsafe.

An American Police State
Civil liberties suffer. We are all "suspects", subject to random urine tests, highway check points and spying into our personal finances. Your property can be seized without trial, if the police merely claim you got it with drug profits. Doing business with cash makes you a suspect. America is becoming a police state because of the war on drugs.

America Can Handle Legal Drugs
Today's illegal drugs were legal before 1914. Cocaine was even found in the original Coca-Cola recipe. Americans had few problems with cocaine, opium, heroin or marijuana. Drugs were inexpensive; crime was low. Most users handled their drug of choice and lived normal, productive lives. Addicts out of control were a tiny minority.

The first laws prohibiting drugs were racist in origin -- to prevent Chinese laborers from using opium and to prevent blacks and Hispanics from using cocaine and marijuana. That was unjust and unfair, just as it is unjust and unfair to make criminals of peaceful drug users today.

Some Americans will always use alcohol, tobacco, marijuana or other drugs. Most are not addicts, they are social drinkers or occasional users. Legal drugs would be inexpensive, so even addicts could support their habits with honest work, rather than by crime. Organized crime would be deprived of its profits. The police could return to protecting us from real criminals; and there would be room enough in existing prisons for them.

Try Personal Responsibility
It's time to re-legalize drugs and let people take responsibility for themselves. Drug abuse is a tragedy and a sickness. Criminal laws only drive the problem underground and put money in the pockets of the criminal class. With drugs legal, compassionate people could do more to educate and rehabilitate drug users who seek help. Drugs should be legal. Individuals have the right to decide for themselves what to put in their bodies, so long as they take responsibility for their actions.

From the Mayor of Baltimore, Kurt Schmoke, to conservative writer and TV personality, William F. Buckley, Jr., leading Americans are now calling for repeal of America's repressive and ineffective drug laws. The Libertarian Party urges you to join in this effort to make our streets safer and our liberties more secure.


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[Napoleon54]

Originally posted by molecularfire


1) I seriously doubt that 100 years ago, a 4 year old child could walk into a drug store and buy cocaine or morphine. Also, you're not taking into account the fact that 100 years ago, there wasn't access to these drugs because technology hadn't shrunk the world yet. Also, I doubt that china would agree with you that these substances were only abused when laws were passed to restrict their use. Heck, all the european nations had to do to take out china was to set up a distribution system for pumping drugs into the country. They were abused even 100 years ago... it's just that nobody cared enough to do anything about it.

No access??Cocaine and Morphine were common items at nearly any pharmacy. Their purchase and use were not restricted in any way. Also, anybody could grow marijuana in their back yard. You have to admit, that constitutes fairly easy access.

I'm not sure what you're saying aboot China, care to clarify? Any recommended reading? Thanks

Originally posted by molecularfire


2) I do not consider a drug control policy that is so effective that the only way for people to get high is to sniff dung as a failure. That's like saying that if we cured all diseases, and people still died of telomerase shrinkage at the age of 300 or so that medical science has failed. I think they did a good job in fighting drugs in their country (a heck of a lot better than we have been doing) and should be given their props.

Sure it's a failure. People in Malaysia are still using drugs, getting high, aren't they? Better to just quit the damn drug war and invest the resources elsewhere. People are still going to get high. It's an excercize in futility. Give it up.

I have never, nor will I ever, be a recreational drug user. There are plenty of other ways to have fun without f*cking up one's life. But I also believe in leaving other people alone to make their own decisions. If people want to make use of such substances I'm not going to tell them that they can't, nor should anyone else.

[Tommy Boomfiger]

Originally posted by Napoleon54
Sure it's a failure. People in Malaysia are still using drugs, getting high, aren't they? Better to just quit the damn drug war and invest the resources elsewhere. People are still going to get high. It's an excercize in futility. Give it up.

I have never, nor will I ever, be a recreational drug user. There are plenty of other ways to have fun without f*cking up one's life. But I also believe in leaving other people alone to make their own decisions. If people want to make use of such substances I'm not going to tell them that they can't, nor should anyone else.

i dont agree with that. if there werent laws against drug usage then a lot more people would use drugs and possible a lot more often. alcohol is legal, but people still some drink so much of this stuff that it kills them. imagine if coke was legal, prices would fall making it much easier to access and it is sooo much easier to od on that stuff. not to mention that even a small dosage can temprorarily incapacitate a user. also younger people would have easier access to the stuff (like cigerettes) and since many of these drugs are addictive (like cigerettes). that could create a drug epidemic. who would be stopping people from mixing these drugs. "whoa, that x gave me a trip, why dont i try some coke now? maybe a lil acid would make it better."

i know lots of people who drink and smoke weed everday, go to school and work with no problems, but be legalizing drugs we arent just talking about weed, there is a lot of stuff out there that is a lot worse and a lot more addictive than that stuff. i dont think that drugs only mess up the life of the person using it. those people have families and people who depend on them. drug addiction causes people to stop functioning properly, you can see it now and making them legal wont stop the problem

[ribitch]

Originally posted by Tuvi
there is a city in peru that has a river running through it, and both are incredibly dirty and polluted. the people live in houses in the river for some reason. it's south of lima, so all of the sewage from there gets dumped into the river and sent to this city. the kids there are too poor to buy drugs, so when human fecal matter floats by, they catch it and scrape off some kind of fungus that grows on it and eat it. it's nasty, but the high lasts for like 3 days.

that is nasty.

[molecularfire]

In the 1920's, alcohol was made illegal by Prohibition. The result: Organized Crime. Criminals jumped at the chance to supply the demand for liquor. The streets became battlegrounds. The criminals bought off law enforcement and judges. Adulterated booze blinded and killed people. Civil rights were trampled in the hopeless attempt to keep people from drinking.

When the American people saw what Prohibition was doing to them, they supported its repeal. When they succeeded, most states legalized liquor and the criminal gangs were out of the liquor business.

Today's war on drugs is a re-run of Prohibition. Approximately 40 million Americans are occasional, peaceful users of some illegal drug who are no threat to anyone. They are not going to stop. The laws don't, and can't, stop drug use.

And since then, alcohol related deaths has killed more people than all of the wars in the history of mankind has.

Whenever there is a great demand for a product and government makes it illegal, a black market always appears to supply the demand. The price of the product rises dramatically and the opportunity for huge profits is obvious. The criminal gangs love the situation, making millions. They kill other drug dealers, along with innocent people caught in the crossfire, to protect their territory. They corrupt police and courts. Pushers sell adulterated dope and experimental drugs, causing injury and death. And because drugs are illegal, their victims have no recourse.

Well... they could quit using it. Anyways, criminals are going to do their thing despite the situation. If you were to legalize drugs, they would go into something else. One thing that they're good at is generating a market out of weak people.

Half the cost of law enforcement and prisons is squandered on drug related crime. Of all drug users, a relative few are addicts who commit crimes daily to supply artificially expensive habits. They are the robbers, car thieves and burglars who make our homes and streets unsafe.

Huh? Sorry... I don't understand the point of this.

Civil liberties suffer. We are all "suspects", subject to random urine tests, highway check points and spying into our personal finances. Your property can be seized without trial, if the police merely claim you got it with drug profits. Doing business with cash makes you a suspect. America is becoming a police state because of the war on drugs.

IMO, a small inconvenience to save the lives of several million people.

Today's illegal drugs were legal before 1914. Cocaine was even found in the original Coca-Cola recipe. Americans had few problems with cocaine, opium, heroin or marijuana. Drugs were inexpensive; crime was low. Most users handled their drug of choice and lived normal, productive lives. Addicts out of control were a tiny minority.

The first laws prohibiting drugs were racist in origin -- to prevent Chinese laborers from using opium and to prevent blacks and Hispanics from using cocaine and marijuana. That was unjust and unfair, just as it is unjust and unfair to make criminals of peaceful drug users today.

Some Americans will always use alcohol, tobacco, marijuana or other drugs. Most are not addicts, they are social drinkers or occasional users. Legal drugs would be inexpensive, so even addicts could support their habits with honest work, rather than by crime. Organized crime would be deprived of its profits. The police could return to protecting us from real criminals; and there would be room enough in existing prisons for them.

First of all... the fact that drugs were legal before didn't mean that they didn't cause problems. How many statistics from that time were even taken? Ignorance of a situation does NOT imply that it didn't exist. Secondly, the chinese thing that I was talking about was most likely what got the chinese people hooked on opium. During the emperialization era in European history, the way they took over China was by flooding china with opium. How laws were passed is irrelevant. If you look back far enough... you'd find out that most of the laws that we had were racist in origin. Finally, saying that people who commit crimes would not do so were the crime to be leagalized? That's complete crap. You could also say that if people were to give their wallets to pick pockets, then there wouldn't be any problems with pick pockets. Or... if people were to leave their doors open, then we wouldn't have a problem with breaking and entering crimes. What is meant by the police could return to protecting us from real criminals? These people are willing to steal, hurt and maybe even kill for their own selfish desires. They are real criminals.

It's time to re-legalize drugs and let people take responsibility for themselves. Drug abuse is a tragedy and a sickness. Criminal laws only drive the problem underground and put money in the pockets of the criminal class. With drugs legal, compassionate people could do more to educate and rehabilitate drug users who seek help. Drugs should be legal. Individuals have the right to decide for themselves what to put in their bodies, so long as they take responsibility for their actions.

If people were to live in an island away from other people, they can do whatever the heck they want. However, they don't. I agree that a lot of people can take responsibility for themselves. However, there are also a lot who can't. Our socitey should make sure that those people don't hurt the decent law abiding people in our society. I do agree that there should be laws that would allow hospitals to use these drugs as a way of ramping addicts off of this stuff. However, I don't agree that we should just legalize everything and let people go buck wild on it.

I agree that we are not winning the war on drugs. Let's face it... we've been doing a half-a$$ job on the war on drugs anyways. However, it appears that Malaysia is doing a good job. If the worst people can do is sniff cow dung to get high, I would take that as a success. Your argument breaks down to: no matter what we do, people are going to get high anyways, so why bother. Well... no matter what we do, people are going to steal. Should we repeal those laws? No matter what we do people are going to die, should we just eliminate the concept of health care?

[WhiskeyPapa]

Originally posted by Napoleon54
The Lessons of Prohibition
In the 1920's, alcohol was made illegal by Prohibition. The result: Organized Crime. Criminals jumped at the chance to supply the demand for liquor. The streets became battlegrounds. The criminals bought off law enforcement and judges. Adulterated booze blinded and killed people. Civil rights were trampled in the hopeless attempt to keep people from drinking.

When the American people saw what Prohibition was doing to them, they supported its repeal. When they succeeded, most states legalized liquor and the criminal gangs were out of the liquor business.

I just wanted to point out that the per capita consumption of alcohol did not return to pre-prohibition levels until the early 1990's. So prohibition was not totally ineffective.

Organized crime existed before prohibition and will continue long into the future, no matter what laws are created or repealed.