Stealing a CPU...
And for the full subject;
Stealing a CPU's Idle Cycles.
My girlfriend and I have our computers directly networked via a 6' crossover cable so we can share our cable modem. She uses her computer for email and web surfing and that is just about it. At most she is on it for an hour a day. While I on the other hand, am on my computer... well.. alot more. I was wondering if there was a way I could basically use her system resources while she is away. There is plenty of network bandwidth. Any Ideas?
Originally posted by skynet
And for the full subject;
Stealing a CPU's Idle Cycles.
My girlfriend and I have our computers directly networked via a 6' crossover cable so we can share our cable modem. She uses her computer for email and web surfing and that is just about it. At most she is on it for an hour a day. While I on the other hand, am on my computer... well.. alot more. I was wondering if there was a way I could basically use her system resources while she is away. There is plenty of network bandwidth. Any Ideas?
so essentially you want to use 2 systems in a cluster. I dont know how to do it on a windows box, but in the mac world its so easy that a 6th grade class did it for a project.
heres how to do it on a mac:
http://daugerresearch.com/pooch/PoochQuickStartX.1.pdf
heres the article:
http://www.wired.com/news/technology...,50078,00.html
to do the same on linux, i guess the manual is 230 pages long
Last edited by ribitch; 10-12-2002 at 06:03 AM.
Wow, Those were intresting reads, and exactly what I want to do, but on two windows boxes. Thanks for the help, off to google.
I don't think windows is capable of farming. You need a *nix setup or *gasp* mac.
i think that just works for advanced server and datacenter editions. I highly doubt thats what he will be using.Originally posted by hapoo
http://www.windowsclusters.org/
yet another reason macs are better
dont start.
VMS has been doing it for 20 years.Originally posted by spigidygak
I don't think windows is capable of farming. You need a *nix setup or *gasp* mac.
stay low... keep moving...
Originally posted by xsiled2
dont start.
i should submit my "switch" ad
i tried to cluster some computers. Linux required a 230 page manual. windows was a PITA, but with my mac i just plugged the systems into a switch, read a small pdf file, and I was all set.
my x86 cluster is now listed on eBay.
i'm ribitch and I'm a got|apex poster
I did check out that http://www.windowsclusters.org/ site, and it did seem a bit out of what I was looking for. It seems like you also have to program your code a specific way.
I honestly think MACs are made for dumb people. I am not saying that all people who use MACs are dumb, but the people who hate PCs and love MACs are just too stupid to figure out the PC. After seeing all of those switch ads it made me think that. And after reading that poochie thing, the programers really make the MAC OS stupid proof. Don't take that statement the wrong way, I am not putting ribitch and all the other MAC users down or anything. But because they make MACs so stupid proof, there is nothing us power users can do other than upgrade the ram. You have to give credit to companies like Intel and Microsoft who are really backward compatable. In theory you could run WindowsXP on a 586, while it won't be very practical, it is possible.
I wonder how a cluster of a MAC and PC would turn out. When you think about it, it should be possible in theory.
Hmmm. Being both a Windows and a Mac user, I have no desire to get into the which is better debate, but some of those remarks are just plain ignorant. A power user can do plenty with a Mac. I can take a Power Mac and upgrade the video card, sound card, hard drive, scsi cards, RAM, etc. Heck there are even processor upgrades out there to bring older Macs up to speed.Originally posted by skynet
I honestly think MACs are made for dumb people. I am not saying that all people who use MACs are dumb, but the people who hate PCs and love MACs are just too stupid to figure out the PC. After seeing all of those switch ads it made me think that. And after reading that poochie thing, the programers really make the MAC OS stupid proof. Don't take that statement the wrong way, I am not putting ribitch and all the other MAC users down or anything. But because they make MACs so stupid proof, there is nothing us power users can do other than upgrade the ram. You have to give credit to companies like Intel and Microsoft who are really backward compatable. In theory you could run WindowsXP on a 586, while it won't be very practical, it is possible.
Yeah you can't build one from scratch like I built my Windows machine because you can't get the parts (well not easily and really not cheaply) but most Mac users want a warranty and support anyway. Plus having supported both Windows and Macs in an office environment, the Macs are far more stable and reliable, probably due to the fact the the operating system and the hardware come from the same place--something Microsoft will never have the luxury of.
Speaking of which, the Mac OS X operating system is FreeBSD (Mach microkernel) based with I'm sure you know is a UNIX based OS. I can very easily pull up a terminal window and use the command line interface *NIX users know and love.
Backward compatibility is double-edged sword. There aren't too many programmers out there lauding the x86 instruction set, including those who make a living programming it. Sometimes making actual improvements means breaking backward compatibility.
Macs aren't for everyone, especially not hardcore gamers. But tell all of the graphic artists, designers, and musicians that Macs are only for stupid people and you'll be the one that looks pretty stupid. Just because some things are easier on the Mac doesn't mean they aren't as good, it just means that Apple knew what people would WANT to do with their machines and made it convenient. What's wrong with that?
Paul Beasi
Call me ignorant, but I don't think "power users" mean somebody who can just upgrade or build a computer. A power user imo is somebody who uses the hardware they have to the maximum ability of it. Also a power user is someone who actually KNOWS what is the right amount of hardware. Those that build comps with too much junk and just care about frame rates on quake III. . . to me those are just fanbois. . .
thanks seqiro, for typing all that out. skynet, calling all mac users dumb is very ignorant. its very hard to classify thousands of people using one blunt term
you all know my opinion on the issueOriginally posted by Tommy Boomfiger
thanks seqiro, for typing all that out. skynet, calling all mac users dumb is very ignorant. its very hard to classify thousands of people using one blunt term
power users, yes. stupid, no.
mac user, yes. Windows user, only when i have to.
What I get from this is that because you use a system that is "less stupid proof" that makes you smart? It seems as though those who use a system that leaves room for less error are the ones that are actually thinking.Originally posted by skynet
I honestly think MACs are made for dumb people. I am not saying that all people who use MACs are dumb, but the people who hate PCs and love MACs are just too stupid to figure out the PC. After seeing all of those switch ads it made me think that. And after reading that poochie thing, the programers really make the MAC OS stupid proof. Don't take that statement the wrong way, I am not putting ribitch and all the other MAC users down or anything. But because they make MACs so stupid proof, there is nothing us power users can do other than upgrade the ram. You have to give credit to companies like Intel and Microsoft who are really backward compatable. In theory you could run WindowsXP on a 586, while it won't be very practical, it is possible.
my switch ad.
Back when I was a windows user it was so hard. I mean, you two, or three or sometimes even five buttons on your mouse. Who can keep track of all those buttons? Thats why I switched to the Mac: one button. Its so much easier to figure out how to do things with one button. I mean, now I won't be stuck all day figuring out whether to right click or left click.
I'm Canta, and I have one finger.
Tommy Boomfiger, Care to actually read my post?
I said "I honestly think MACs are made for dumb people. I am not saying that all people who use MACs are dumb"
Now since you didn't see it the first time, I doubt you'll see it this time. So I imagine you are a MAC user, and MAC users in general like things to be nice pretty and formated, so lets do that.
"I honestly think MACs are made for dumb people. I am not saying that all people who use MACs are dumb"
So lets recap Tommy Boomfiger. What I mean by that is that over in MAC labs, the developers are designing the machine so that if you give it to a 5 year old, there is no way that he can destroy the computer (excluding physically). They also design it so a, I am guessing, 8 year old can use it. With one single mouse button, the little eight year old can do anything she wants in a few clicks, and she doesn't have to change any settings at all to please her because they are all set for her.
Also I never said I think a PC is better than a MAC, I never made any direct comments like that.
spigidygak has got the right idea. A power user is someone who knows his or her hardware and software and knows how to use it. I like knowing that my system will crash if I do something stupid. I think that is a perfect solution, you do something stupid, and something stupid should happen.
I think what MAC does by designing mainly for people who don't know how to use a computer is smart. The general population of the USA is overweight and stupid. So why not market towards them?
I however, like to crash my computer when I do something stupid. I like being able to screw windows up by deleting a few dlls. I think the computer is there to do what you instruct it to do.
chadlnc, I never said I was smarter than anyone else. And again I never said all MAC users are dumb. I think ribitch is a very smart person, he has made alot of good comments on this board. However people like him who use MACs are far and few in between.
my take on the one button mouse:
mouse was introduced origianlly when all you needed was one button. People began to use it on apple systems. Other systems introduce 2 button mice and therefore apple becomes known for 1 button mouse. Apple sticks with the one button mouse because of both simplicity as well for being known for it.
Apple has built support into their os for multibutton mice without other drivers or anything like that. Apple owns software that requires a multibutton mouse. Apple should allow several models of mice to be bought with a custom system and allow the user to pick what they want. However, offering a multibutton mouse cuts into their hardware partners sales, causing a possible loss on sales to companies like kensington and logitech.
so apple could be between a rock and a hrad place with the multibutton mouse. based on what friends and family use as a mice, i have seen everyone likes something different. i assume apple knows that to, and they know mosty users ditch their mouse for what they like. Therefore they are only pissing off PC users with their single button mouse. Most apple users dont mind spending a very small chunk of change to get thier preferred type of mouse, just like PC users dont mind spending money to mod a case.
As far as simplicty goes with apple products, those designs only go into consumer iApps. If you dont like simple, ditch imovie for FCP or ditch iDVD for DVD Studio Pro. Apple sells many applications that extend the iApps to a professional evel and in doing so they add a higher degree of difficulty to the app.
Apple systems are also prone to crash do to not knowing what you are doing. Log in as root and delete your applications folder and you will find out that it can be done. Same with the library. Or how about "securing" you system by making the "owner" the only one with access to your harddisk. You will have it so secure, nobody will be able to log in, since the system is the HD "owner" This applies to all unix variants. Unix can be fuc#ed harder than windows systems can be if you dont know what you are doing.
Apple has simply made unix user friendly. Apple has done something that most if not all unix vendors have been looking to do. I dont know of any unix system that a five year old can use for basic needs and that childs father can use that same system to do many thing unix gurus have come to rely on.
liek i have said many many times before on this board, windows users need to learn to try apple with an open mind (basicly OS X) before they start to trash talk it. I hated apple with a passion a few years ago, now look at me. Apple has a great product, and it deserves a test ride before a enduser gives its final opinion.
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