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    100 Computers of U.S. Midshipmen Seized

    By AMY HARMON


    n the most severe crackdown yet on online piracy at a college campus, the United States Naval Academy has seized 100 computers from students who are suspected of having downloaded unauthorized copies of music files over the Internet.

    School officials confiscated the computers when students were in class on Thursday, an academy spokesman said yesterday. Students found to have downloaded copyrighted material could face penalties ranging from loss of leave time to court-martial and expulsion.

    The academy was one of 2,300 colleges to receive a letter from entertainment industry organizations last month requesting help in cracking down on unauthorized file swapping. The record industry largely attributes the decline in CD sales over the last 18 months to digital piracy, and has brought increasing pressure on institutions in a position to identify and discipline the downloaders.

    " `Theft' is a harsh word," the letter to colleges stated, "but that it is, pure and simple. Students must know that if they pirate copyrighted works they are subject to legal liability."

    But one of the groups that sent the letter, the Recording Industry Association of America — perhaps not wanting to appear too single-minded at a time when the nation is poised for a possible war — took pains yesterday to distance itself from the actions of the Naval Academy. The other organizations were the Motion Picture Association of America, the National Music Publishers Association and the Songwriters Guild of America.

    "We appreciate institutions who take intellectual property theft seriously," a spokesman for the recording industry association said in a written statement. "However, we do not dictate what their enforcement policies should be, and, in this particular instance, we do not know the facts of the case."

    The computer seizures were first reported by The Capital, a newspaper in Annapolis, on Saturday.

    Universities have been grappling with how to stem the rapid flow of unauthorized media files across their networks ever since the birth of Napster, the program that popularized file swapping. Students have been quick to take advantage of the free, high-speed connections to the Internet in dormitory rooms to download music and movies, an activity that, in addition to being illegal, has slowed traffic on many university networks.

    At the urging of the recording industry, several university associations sent out their own letter last month prompting schools to re-examine their policies on file-sharing activities.

    Still, education officials said that most university administrators had limited their measures to mandatory forums on copyright and the temporary suspension of Internet access for students found to be engaging in unauthorized downloading.

    "The Naval Academy actions at the moment seem to be a tad more severe than anything we anticipated," said Sheldon Steinbach, general counsel of the American Council on Education, an umbrella organization representing 1,800 public and private universities and a co-author of the letter sent out last month.

    Military academy officials said the crackdown on copyright violators is driven by their rigorous ethics code, which states that students will not "lie, cheat, steal or tolerate those who do."

    At West Point, a spokesman said network traffic is monitored and students have been disciplined for violating a policy that prohibits unauthorized copying.

    "In addition to violating federal copyright law, it also violates our code of honor," the spokesman, Maj. Kent Cassella, said. "Federal copyright law clearly states this is theft, and therefore it is treated as such."

    Other schools have resisted monitoring Internet traffic because of academic freedom and privacy issues, education officials said yesterday. But the military academies also have other priorities.

    "They hold the midshipman to a higher standard," said a naval officer, who declined to be identified because of the continuing investigation of the students at the academy. "They are the next generation of combat leaders. They can't be allowed to violate federal law and think that it's O.K."

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    Luckily my friend who attends the academy now doesn;t download music. He downloads games all the time, but not music. They didn't take his computer so what does this tell you? Its all about the size of the music industry vs the game industry.

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    I think that if people get caught pirating music, movies and software.. they are required to pay for every instance of that file.. Like if they download 10 songs.. 3 of those songs are on the same CD and the others are seperate bands and cd.. they have to buy each one of those CDs that correspond with what they have.. Same with movies, if they have the movie on their computer.. they are to purchase the movie (for the price of the movie at the time they are caught..) so if it is on dvd for 7.99 they only owe 7.99

    at least the companies will actually get their money for the pirating that is being done. heh

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    Originally posted by kain9i6
    I think that if people get caught pirating music, movies and software.. they are required to pay for every instance of that file.. Like if they download 10 songs.. 3 of those songs are on the same CD and the others are seperate bands and cd.. they have to buy each one of those CDs that correspond with what they have.. Same with movies, if they have the movie on their computer.. they are to purchase the movie (for the price of the movie at the time they are caught..) so if it is on dvd for 7.99 they only owe 7.99

    at least the companies will actually get their money for the pirating that is being done. heh

    Yes i rip music that I dont own...btu I also have MP3s of all of the albums I bought and paid for....Some of these albums have been lost/stolen. So how do I prove that I have paid for the albums I paid for? Under fair use terms, RIAA/MPAA cannot charge me for having backup copies.

    The point is there is no way for anyone to prove whats stolen or paid for.
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    ****ing RIAA...
    what the **** do they care if they get their ****ing money, but because the whole ****ing naval academy gets expelled, there's nobody ****ing intelligent enough to protect their country?

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    Originally posted by cruelpupet
    Yes i rip music that I dont own...btu I also have MP3s of all of the albums I bought and paid for....Some of these albums have been lost/stolen. So how do I prove that I have paid for the albums I paid for? Under fair use terms, RIAA/MPAA cannot charge me for having backup copies.
    That's kind of the point of having backup copies. I guess we'll need to start keeping reciepts longer.
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    The RIAA would love nothing more for this to happen at college campuses and everywhere across the land.

    If a person can't prove he/she bought the albums, the RIAA will say the music has been stolen.

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    One problem that will prevent this from happening everywhere. At the Naval Academy they are given those computers. They arent the students computers. The academy gives them to them as freshmen, and it is still government property. So technically they are legally allowed to confiscate them. A public school can't confiscate computers of students, because frankly, they are private property. The only thing they could do would be to get the fbi to confiscate them as part of a mass crack down, but the problem would getting a judge to sign off for a warrant that far reaching and you have the side effect of a government agency confiscating millions of dollars of private property from millions of people for no reason other than to please a gang of industry heads.

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    Originally posted by Cantacuzene
    The only thing they could do would be to get the fbi to confiscate them as part of a mass crack down, but the problem would getting a judge to sign off for a warrant that far reaching and you have the side effect of a government agency confiscating millions of dollars of private property from millions of people for no reason other than to please a gang of industry heads.
    not much of a problem, as long as the the "gang of industry heads" is the RIAA and the movie studios

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    can they legally sieze these computers that are the students property?!?!!?!?!??


    and if this is all legal, i hope all the record execs have bad things happen to them

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