Well I'm at home for the weekend and was trying to send out some mail on my ibook. Its with my gotapex account and the receiving is no problem. But sending is another story. My parents are using dslextreme for dialup access and the smtp server is smtp.dslextreme.com. So I entered that in for the Mail program in X and it refused to send. I tested by using outlook express under xp and everything seems fine. . . any clues to what I might be doing wrong? I guess I could try out entourage, but I really like the spam filter on Mail, its so damn good.