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    Nice Graduation Gift eh?

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    Teens Getting Breast Implants for Graduation
    Run Date: 06/06/04
    By Susan Kreimer
    WeNews correspondent
    More teens are ignoring health risks and requesting breast implants as a Sweet 16 or high school graduation gift.


    (WOMENSENEWS)--This summer 17-year-old Aubrie Wills is getting a special graduation present. It's not a new wardrobe, a laptop computer or a trip to Cancun. It's a set of breasts.

    "If I go to college, then no one's going to know my boobs were small," said the Grapevine High School senior who endures teasing in suburban Dallas. "It would be a lot more evident if I did it in the middle of the school year."


    Her mother, grandmother, two aunts and stepmother have implants. Aubrie, who turns 18 in July, hopes to enhance her 32A cups to a small C. "If my mom is offering to pay for it now, why not?" she said.

    Last year, 3,841 women 18 or younger underwent breast augmentation, a 24-percent jump from 3,095 in 2002, which represents a 19-percent increase from 2,596 in 2001, according to the American Society of Plastic Surgeons. Only 978 girls had the procedure in 1992. (Women between 19 and 34 account for a large segment of those getting implants; 114,005 last year.)

    More teens visit plastic surgeons this time of year. "You see it around graduation," said Dr. Rod J. Rohrich, the society's president. "You see it around holidays and spring break, especially around the Christmas season."

    The phenomenon is taking off across the country, but doctors say implants are especially popular in Texas and California. "Breasts are a fashion item," said Dr. Garry Brody, professor of plastic surgery at the University of Southern California in Los Angeles. "In the 1920s--the flapper era--women were binding their breasts to make them look smaller to suit the fashions."

    "When I graduated high school in 1990, the big thing was nose jobs," said Jo Trizila, director of media relations for the Greater Dallas Chamber. Now, 8 of her 10 friends have implants. Those who couldn't afford them took out a loan.

    Body Image Trumps Safety
    With television shows like "The Swan" showcasing plastic surgery, more teens view breast augmentation as a commonplace procedure.

    A 17-year-old who saw Dr. Edward Melmed before graduation "thought it would be a fun thing to do," said the Dallas plastic surgeon, who removes implants and testified before the Food and Drug Administration's advisory panel in October. "They regard it as having your hair done or getting a new watch. She had no concept that this was a serious operation."

    "We tell them it's real surgery," said Rohrich, chair of plastic surgery at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical Center at Dallas. "It has real risks."

    But for many teens, appearance trumps caution. "Our biggest concern with adolescents is that they may not necessarily appreciate the relative permanence of the changes," said Dr. David Sarwer, a psychologist at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine's Center for Human Appearance in Philadelphia. He has gathered anecdotes about "suburbs of big cities where cosmetic surgery is a relatively common Sweet 16 or high school graduation gift."

    Dr. Douglas Senderoff of New York, who practices in Manhattan and Westchester County, says minds are often made up before consultations with him begin. Several 17-year-olds inquired about implants, he recalled, including a teen with severe asymmetry. Insurance covered implant surgery for one breast and reshaping the other.

    When parents ponied up $7,000 for breast enlargement--a cost that varies depending on location--"they thought it was important for their (child's) well-being," said Senderoff, who turns away girls under 18. "At 16 or 17, you may be very skinny. By 18, you may fill out a little more."

    Try telling that to teens who admire full-breasted magazine models. "We get calls from teen-age girls like, 'I'm getting my implants next week. What do I need to know?'" said Diana Zuckerman, a psychologist and president of the Washington-based National Center for Policy Research for Women and Families. "Teen-age girls have the worst body image."

    Unanswered Questions
    "In the patients I'm treating, it's severe lack of breast tissue," said Dr. Susan Kolb, a plastic surgeon and holistic medicine specialist in Atlanta. "It's not that they have a B and want to go to a C."

    Kolb knows how they feel. As a flat-chested 31-year-old Air Force doctor, she decided it was time to change. After surgery in 1985, she experienced a common complication known as capsular contracture--tightening of scar tissue
    --around the right implant. Years later, her left implant leaked silicone. She developed fibromyalgia and other immune-related disorders along with neurological disease. In 1997, she traded those implants for smooth saline.

    "A lot more research needs to be done on the safety of breast implants," said Kolb, 49, an expert on saline and silicone complications. "There are a lot of unanswered questions in my mind." Risks include surgical complications from anesthesia, excessive bleeding and infection.

    Over time implants rupture or deflate, requiring additional surgeries. This can happen immediately, within months, several years or later after the initial procedure. With saline implants, women sense a change more easily. But the thicker silicone-gel implants maintain a better shape, compromising detection of a rupture.

    Implants also can make it more difficult for mammography to pinpoint breast cancer. Removing them could result in loss of breast volume, distortion and wrinkling.

    To inform teens about the health hazards, Kathy Keithley Johnston visits Missouri's secondary schools. She passes around an implant in health education classes and shows graphic photographs of girls disfigured after implant removal.

    "We want to be the primary clearinghouse of information in the U.S. on breast implants," said Johnston, a registered nurse and executive director of Toxic Discovery in Columbia, Mo., which reaches out to high schools and colleges nationwide.

    Johnston, who turns 53 this month, remembers being teased as a flat-chested teen. In 1984, she was implanted at no cost in Midland, Texas, as a poster child for a manufacturer's video. She co-founded the advocacy organization in 1995, the year after autoimmune disease compelled her to part with implants. The plastic surgeon had assured her they would last a lifetime. It turned out to be a lifetime of pain and suffering.

    Cindy Fuchs-Morrissey underwent a bilateral mastectomy at 35 after three silicone-gel sets to correct a deformity. She got the first set at 18.

    "The surgery was a birthday present from my parents," said Fuchs-Morrissey, a 46-year-old mother of three girls in Macon, Mo., who suffers from multiple sclerosis. She believes her 14-year-old daughter Hilary's scleroderma, a systemic sclerosis, is linked to silicone crossing the placental barrier.

    In 2000, the Food and Drug Administration approved saline implants for women 18 and older. Its recommendation is only advisory because breast implants, unlike medications, are not regulated by the FDA. Silicone-gel implants are not approved for marketing and are available to women only through FDA-approved clinical studies.

    At 19, Kacey Long went from 34B to 34D while yearning to belong to the "ritzy culture" at Baylor University in Waco. This past September, about three years later, she had the implants removed due to excruciating pain and silicone poisoning.

    "My best friend's mom worked for my plastic surgeon for 12 years, and she received breast implants six months before me," said Long, now a 22-year-old graduate student in special education at Texas A and M University-Commerce. "She said that in her time at the office, no one ever had any problems. So I really thought that I had inside info and that these devices were completely 'safe' and maintenance-free.

    "I am still paying on my augmentation surgery," she added, "even though my breast implants are now at home with me in a jar, where they should have been all along."

    Susan Kreimer is a freelance medical writer in New York City
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    yeh, fake that

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    Need I say it...


    Yep...


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    kayne west "fake it till you make it..."

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    sad...
    I have students (even very bright ones) that obsess about their bodies. YOU'RE STILL IN PUBERTY, DAMMIT! Wait until your REAL body type kicks in.
    Five years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bires
    sad...
    I have students (even very bright ones) that obsess about their bodies. YOU'RE STILL IN PUBERTY, DAMMIT! Wait until your REAL body type kicks in.
    For your students... I can see what you are talkin' about, but if you are still going through puberty at 17 - 18, then you probably have "other issues" at work here.

    Nobody wants to be the chairperson of the itty bitty titty committee... 32A??? Geez.. that's on par with a 14 year old boy.


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    don't b00bie discriminate DF

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkFury
    For your students... I can see what you are talkin' about, but if you are still going through puberty at 17 - 18, then you probably have "other issues" at work here.

    Nobody wants to be the chairperson of the itty bitty titty committee... 32A??? Geez.. that's on par with a 14 year old boy.
    just because a girl has "hit puberty" at age 13 or 14 doesn't mean that her body isn't going to keep developing. i mean, there are a lot of high school girls who don't even have hips yet, and who don't have all their boobs. that's why there's a difference between "juniors" and "misses" sizing.

    and even if you do end up with 32As, who cares? it's better to learn to be happy with your own body than to risk your health trying to get someone else's body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitak24
    and even if you do end up with 32As, who cares? it's better to learn to be happy with your own body than to risk your health trying to get someone else's body.
    if more ppl thought this way, this world would be a better place. unfortunately, shows like "the swan" and "extreme makeover" are out to crush that belief.

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    One of the ugly chicks in my graduating class got a nose job so she could feign beauty at Pepperdine in Malibu.
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    makes me think about that chinese guy that sued his wife when he found out that she had all that plastic surgery. Anyone recall the link? He discovered it after his baby came out butt ugly and he accused her of having an affair.
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    my teen cousin got a nose job in korea. i didn't notice any difference. how sad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel
    don't b00bie discriminate DF
    Can't discriminate what ISN'T there...




    Quote Originally Posted by whitak24
    just because a girl has "hit puberty" at age 13 or 14 doesn't mean that her body isn't going to keep developing. i mean, there are a lot of high school girls who don't even have hips yet, and who don't have all their boobs. that's why there's a difference between "juniors" and "misses" sizing.

    and even if you do end up with 32As, who cares? it's better to learn to be happy with your own body than to risk your health trying to get someone else's body.
    So when does the "developmental" period end? Menopause?

    Either way, I'm just joking about all of this... do whatever you like with YOUR body... cause in the end, you have to make yourself happy.
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    that's true DF, do what you will with your body, but it was a present from her mom ... what kind of a message the teen is getting, besides, I saw her on TV yesterday, pics, before and after ... 34B isn't so bad. Sometimes a small firm cup is better than a fake jar
    Other then that, I think we put too much pressure on women to look as we wish. These days’ women should be coming with a disclaimer “What you see is what you get but it might be artificial”

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkFury
    So when does the "developmental" period end? Menopause?
    i dunno. do i look like an expert about this stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whitak24
    i dunno. do i look like an expert about this stuff?
    I dunno... do you got "man boobies"?


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    I would buy them for my daughter if she wanted them, if she was getting them to make herself feel better then go for it.

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    Why not pay for a therapist for her instead? It would cost less, and there's less chance of dying or medical complications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkFury
    I dunno... do you got "man boobies"?


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    oh yeah! big, lucious, pendulous...... MAN BOOBIES!!!!

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    i'm all for boobies. even fake ones don't bother me.....when you're old enough to need them. what happens when these girls have kids. are they still going to be able to breastfeed if they want? it's so stupid that they can't be happy when they look the best that they will ever look.
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    you can breastfeed if you have fake boobs, if I had small boobs I would for sure get breast implants, I do think big boobed girls get treated better then tiny girls but also if you have big boobs you can never find any cute bras and when you were shirts they are tight no matter what you do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnar
    also if you have big boobed you can never find any cute bras and when you were shirts they are tight no matter what you do.
    Braless small boobs chick with nice shirt on top looks very nice, classy, appealing and sexy. Fake boobed ones look vulgar this way (which men like of course, but is that the attention you like) and some real large boobed women with no bra under neath often look rather saggy and unappealing. So I think "tiny" girls have benefits of their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenas
    Braless small boobs chick with nice shirt on top looks very nice, classy, appealing and sexy. Fake boobed ones look vulgar this way (which men like of course, but is that the attention you like) and some real large boobed women with no bra under neath often look rather saggy and unappealing. So I think "tiny" girls have benefits of their own.
    I am not saying small breasted women are disadavnatge at all my husband only liked small breasted women well then he met me. Plus not all big real women have saggy breast, I for one have had 3 children and wear a 36D on a small frame and do not have saggy breast but I do see this in my future along with back pain and all sorts of crap

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    College doesnt pay for itself. Many girls waitress or tend bar to pay the bills and it only takes a few nights of noticing your more well endowed co-worker makign twice teh tips as you before you start to see an investment opportunity. Kudos to these girls for getting ahead of the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnar
    I am not saying small breasted women are disadavnatge at all my husband only liked small breasted women well then he met me. Plus not all big real women have saggy breast, I for one have had 3 children and wear a 36D on a small frame and do not have saggy breast but I do see this in my future along with back pain and all sorts of crap
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    ummm, the same goes for d*ck size i suppose.

    are the guys graduating getting some sorta implant there to make up for
    miniscule-ness?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel
    ummm, the same goes for d*ck size i suppose.

    are the guys graduating getting some sorta implant there to make up for
    miniscule-ness?
    Haha if that's so, they don't seem to go around telling people they were just enlarged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel
    ummm, the same goes for d*ck size i suppose.

    are the guys graduating getting some sorta implant there to make up for
    miniscule-ness?
    Only if they are trying to get jobs as "male strippers".

    BTW...that's what "socks" are for if you really need to display a fatter "bulge" to impress someone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel
    ummm, the same goes for d*ck size i suppose.

    are the guys graduating getting some sorta implant there to make up for
    miniscule-ness?
    no, we supplement with cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revil
    no, we supplement with cars.
    Dayuuum... I guess you got a point there.

    Along with gifts, dinners, and other "tangible assets".


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