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    Animals sensed tsunami?

    Thursday 30 December 2004, 16:03 Makka Time, 13:03 GMT


    Wild animals seem to have escaped the Indian Ocean tsunami, adding weight to notions they possess a sixth sense for disasters, experts said.

    Sri Lankan wildlife officials on Thursday said the giant waves that killed thousands of people along the Indian Ocean island's coast seemingly missed wild beasts, with no dead animals found.

    "No elephants are dead, not even a dead hare or rabbit. I think animals can sense disaster. They have a sixth sense. They know when things are happening," HD Ratnayake, deputy director of Sri Lanka's Wildlife Department, said on Wednesday.

    The waves washed floodwaters up to 3km inland at Yala National Park in the ravaged southeast, Sri Lanka's biggest wildlife reserve and home to hundreds of wild elephants and several leopards.

    "There has been a lot of anecdotal evidence about dogs barking or birds migrating before volcanic eruptions or earthquakes. But it has not been proven," Matthew van Lierop, an animal behaviour specialist at Johannesburg Zoo, said.

    "There have been no specific studies because you can't really test it in a lab or field setting," he said.

    Other authorities concurred with this assessment.

    "Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters"

    "Wildlife seem to be able to pick up certain phenomenon, especially birds ... there are many reports of birds detecting impending disasters," Clive Walker, who has written several books on African wildlife, said.

    Animals certainly rely on the known senses such as smell or hearing to avoid danger such as predators.

    The notion of an animal "sixth sense" - or some other mythical power - is an enduring one which the evidence on Sri Lanka's battered coast is likely to add to.

    The Romans saw owls as omens of impending disaster and many ancient cultures viewed elephants as sacred animals endowed with special powers or attributes.
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    I think we (animals) have the same inate ability... we just don't LISTEN to our intuition enough. All of our listening skills seem to be going the way of the dinosaur anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypnotist
    I think we (animals) have the same inate ability... we just don't LISTEN to our intuition enough. All of our listening skills seem to be going the way of the dinosaur anymore.
    Good point...I was going to say that I do believe the fact that animals can sense things like that...then I realized that we too are animals. I agree that we have come so far out of touch with reality and our own instincts that we no longer know how to detect such things.

    Keep in mind that some people still have "gut feelings" about things...that may be some part of our instincts breaking through the hardened surface.

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    animals are smarter than we think and people are dumber than we think.

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    Is it possible different animals have different insticts and humans just don't have those insticts?
    As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    Is it possible different animals have different insticts and humans just don't have those insticts?
    Probably, I know that I don't have the instinct to fly South in the Fall, or to sniff some other animal's butt in order to get to know them better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnymk
    to sniff some other animal's butt in order to get to know them better.


    nice one.
    yeah, pretty much we missed the boat on that one. but it's still here. get you some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    Is it possible different animals have different insticts and humans just don't have those insticts?
    Good question... can you site an example related to self preservation?

    Main Entry: 1in·stinct
    Pronunciation: 'in-"sti[ng](k)t
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Middle English, from Latin instinctus impulse, from instinguere to incite; akin to Latin instigare to instigate
    1 : a natural or inherent aptitude, impulse, or capacity <had an instinct for the right word>
    2 a : a largely inheritable and unalterable tendency of an organism to make a complex and specific response to environmental stimuli without involving reason b : behavior that is mediated by reactions below the conscious level
    - in·stinc·tu·al /in-'sti[ng](k)-ch&-w&l, -ch&l, -shw&l/ adjective
    - in·stinc·tu·al·ly adverb

    Or is it possible that we do, and they're just not as well developed?... a dog's sense of smell as compared to that of humans immediately comes to mind. And could it be that since humans have harnessed fire, developed tools, and created a social structure within which the threat of an untimely death has clearly been diminished, that we're losing touch with that which was originally ours? I think the survival instinct exists within all living creatures and is the most powerful force in the animal world... but species, environment and experience determine to what degree those instinctual tools are developed and available, IMHO.
    Last edited by Hypnotist; 12-30-2004 at 02:39 PM. Reason: definition inclusion
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    I'm going with the most parsimonious answer
    As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrewMaster
    animals are smarter than we think and people are dumber than we think.
    no don't go gettin all Dr. Doolittle on us

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel
    no don't go gettin all Dr. Doolittle on us
    you get some animals talking in a movie and i am there. man, I thought Dr. Doolittle was a damn funny move...twice.

    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    I'm going with the most parsimonious answer
    i thought parsimonious meant cheap?

    /looks it up at dictionary.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    I'm going with the most parsimonious answer
    Come on... don't be parsimonious now.
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    Well, blind people have a better sense of hearing, smell, etc. so it is definately possible that our senses can be better than they are right now. I think if we trained for it, our senses could be as good as those of animals.

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