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    Why I want to KILL myself

    So, many of you already know my problems and issues with my current employer/job. I won't name names, but I'm sure you can figure out who I work for from reading some of my other posts or from talking to me off the boards. Anyway, in all honesty I am a workaholic. I love working more than school, partying, drinking, etc. But, my current situation has driven me to the point where I hate work and dread the thought of work. Back in August, I think I posted something about how I threatened to quit my job if they didn't give me a promotion and raise. Well, the company met my demands 2 days later and gave me what I wanted (for the most part). In August, I was upset about the money and they fixed that situation. This time around though, their lack of support for my team/group has been unacceptable, driving me to the point where I AM going to quit my job because they do not deserve my effort, time, and dedication.

    If you have read the entertainment headlines in the past year, you will know that the largest company in the world bought out one of the largest entertainment companies. I was an employee of the entertainment firm for about 7 months prior, working 60 hour work weeks, learning a lot, getting exposure to presidents of the company and being handed responsibilities I would not receive anywhere else. I can honestly say that I was pretty happy with that situation, despite 12 hour days.

    After the merger occured, **** hit the fan and things around the office got quite hectic. Everybody in my group was put into a position where we were effectively working 3 different jobs that were levels higher than what our titles suggested. To make matters worse, 1) we worked in the 1 division that was going through ALL of the integration, and 2) we worked in finance, which is the backbone of the acquiring firm. Compared to all of the other finance groups within the newly created entertainment division, our group works almost twice as long per week and have less staff than everybody else. There is an inherent problem when the 1 finance group that is actually integrating cross companies is working such long hours, when all the other finance groups get to leave at 6pm. I am typically the 1st or 2nd into the office and leave when the last person leaves. Since the merger occured, I have easily been averaging 70 hour work weeks. I have run my entire group for a total of 2.5 weeks (2 separate occasions) when nobody else was physically in the state/country. Back in August, I worked 42 days straight averaging at least 100 hours a week. Nobody else from one of the other groups was there on the weekends and nobody offered to help me. This was just after my manager had left for a competing firm and I had to step up into her position and also do mine. After that stretch is when I threatened to quit the first time.

    I took the promotion and raise in August and decided to stay with the company for a few more months with hopes that things would get better for me. They didn't replace my manager immediately, so I was reporting directly to a CFO. But, that also meant that my workload was now my former manager's job and my analyst job. A few months of mayhem went by and I started looking for jobs in October. I was one of the top prospects for a job with a cable network, but that fell through when they gave the offer to someone at a higher level than was advertised (they ended up making the position a manager's level to meet the candidate's qualifications). No hard feelings, and that is when I decided to wait until 2005 to make another decision. That time is now.

    Last month we had our year-end financial close. I had been through this before, last year, with my old group (my entire group has since left the company). I am the last one remaining from the group that was intact during the 2003 close process. My current boss had received upper mgmt approval to take a vacation during the close process when he signed his contract in march. That left me and my manager to do all the work, while the other 2 people from the parent company focused on their accounting issues for year end close. Normally, 2 people can handle all the data validation and approvals, but some idiot in upper management thought it would be wise to send my manager to NYC on an emergency meeting for 1.5 weeks (she had to take 2 separate trips in 10 days). Of course nobody thought about what the hell would happen to me during that 1.5 weeks. Well, they left me alone for the year end financial close. I am glad they really trust me to do the work (I know that I am more than capable of doing it), but given the time constraints and lack of hours in the day, I was pretty much ****ed for that 1.5 weeks. I worked from 8-midnight everynight for 8 days straight to get everything done because nobody thought about the lack of resources. They didn't realize that by pulling 1 person away (with 1 person on approved vacation) that it would be painful for the last person standing. Of course that last person standing is ALWAYS me. How so?

    1) I am typically the 1st or 2nd person into the office (between 8am - 8:30am) and leave when the last person leaves (at the earliest 8pm).
    2) I have been left alone in the office for 1 week during our Q2 close and for 1.5 weeks during our full year close.
    3) I was grossly underpaid compared to my counterparts coming from the parent company. I had to threaten to quit before they gave me something equivalent. This is something that my manager should have seen coming months prior.
    4) I was doing my manager's and my analyst work for more than 6 months.
    5) I am now on my 3rd supervisor. My first supervisor left 3 months after I started. My (then) manager became my supervisor and for 3 months we were the only two in the group. My third supervisor started 3 months after that, but was virtually ineffective since he was new to the industry. That left my manager and myself in the same position...2 of us doing 3 people's jobs. After the merger occured, my manager quit and i was told I would be moving to a different group. My complaint...that would be my 4th supervisor in less than a year...who the hell would be giving me my annual evaluation? Nobody thought of that. That's one of the reasons they didn't move me.
    6) No other finance team in the entertainment division works as hard as we do, nor are they as strapped for heads as we are. We are the ONLY finance group that actually has to integrate resources. So why is it we don't get more resources when everybody else is leaving at 6pm?
    7) I was given a 6 hour lecture on Integrity, yet upper management has continued to lie to my boss and to me directly about their directives and initiatives. I guess upper management was excluded from Integrity training.
    8) Upper management is only around for another 1.5 years before they move onto a different position within the parent corporation. Instead of addressing issues that need to be fixed, they put bandaids on it. The only time upper management actually focuses on the real issues is when **** hits the fan. For guys who have to go through weeks of management training, they sure suck at it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there's problems when you have 3 vice presidents telling you there is a problem.
    9) They "promised" to make me a manager "soon" but they are not willing to give us more heads. Instead they are applying the band-aid and truly think that paying me more money will keep me there. They don't understand it's not about the money for anybody in my group. We all want to quit, and everybody knows that.

    So, that's my situation in a nutshell. Yes, my issues have become personal issues. I have no life. Work is my life and I used to enjoy it. I can't even say anything positive in or outside of the office these days. Everytime I walk in there, I want to throw myself out the window (I work on the 30th floor) and wave to everybody on the way down.

    I have decided that February 4th will probably be my last day with the company. I probably won't be looking for a new job between now and then, because I feel like I need a break from working, god knows I ****ing deserve a break. I will be going to Whistler to ski for a week in February and when I return I may take a few smaller trips and enjoy my life. After all that, maybe in March/April I will start looking for a new job.

    Have any of you ever quit your job without something lined up? I have spoken with my family and relatives and it's split about 50/50. Surprisingly, my parents support my decision to just quit. They have heard how ****ed up my situation has been. Most people my age all tell me I would be crazy to quit without another job. Happiness is my number one priority now, and I will NEVER achieve that if I remain with my current employer.
    Last edited by ray; 01-04-2005 at 11:40 PM.

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    sorry, there's no way i'm reading that whole post. but i did read the last paragraph.

    i've never quit a job without having anther job lined up. but being unemployed is good motivation to look for a new job.

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    Ray,

    I was in a similar situation. I told my bosses i was unhappy by the lack of persons to do the job, and by the lack of support from management. So i got a raise. Yeah! for like a day or two until i realize that i show up 2 hours early, leave an hour behind everyone, haven't taken a sick day in 2 years and actually had to call my girlfriend and tell her i had to work through our planned vacation. And for what? Nothing i could see. so yeah, i quit do to extreme unhappiness. I actually lost 2 of my good friends because i was so miserable at the end of everyday that i would attack them personally for no reason. So i quit do to my unhappiness, and i did not have another job lined up. I just knew i had become a person that i was not happy with and i left. i think your situation is more extreme then mine but i feel for you and i totally think you are doing the right thing. Umm can i ask a couple questions like how long have you worked for these people and what is your "official title"

    Anyways, i hope you find a job where you are respected and appreciated, as i believe that is truly what makes an employee want to make a difference in a company.
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    I've quit a couple jobs without having anything lined up. I figure being unemployed is better than the stress. But then again, I job hop. I still haven't found a right match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maarchk
    Ray,
    Umm can i ask a couple questions like how long have you worked for these people and what is your "official title"

    Anyways, i hope you find a job where you are respected and appreciated, as i believe that is truly what makes an employee want to make a difference in a company.
    Been there since September 29, 2003. Was hired as a Financial Analyst. Promoted to Sr. Financial Analyst and given a 30% raise in August 2004. They "promise" to make me a Manager "soon" which would pretty much mean a 30% pay increase again.

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    You've sold me... get out as soon as you're able. Enjoy some time for yourself, and start fresh when you're good and ready... employment search completed or not. Yes I've done that... I'm doing it as I write. Quit 12 1/2 years marketing for the same company. It took my health away. Don't allow that to happen to you. I read the entire post and you definitely need to back off some. My stress level is still pretty high because I'm starting a new venture now, but I choose what, when and where, and I have only me and my maker to answer to. Obviously by your post you're a bright man and a valuable asset. You'll do GREAT no matter what... so again... Get OUT and don't worry!
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    Hmm well i read through a couple hundred posts and i found out you talk abotu a lot of stuff but only mention work occasionally... hehe but thats probably best for you so you dont go crazy... By the way, did you go to BC? My brother graduated there in 98' and i used to hang out and play ball there... That would be funny if i had met you then but didn't know. oh well. getting back to the topic, can i ask if this is your first job and or what degrees you have?
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    Not looking at the main issue here, but becareful about planning a vacation too close to after to plan to stop working. Usually people who go from working mad hours to relaxing, their bodies go to udder crap. Happened to one of my managers, she finally got a 2 week vation and spent 10 days of it sick at home.
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    I think you should try to force their hands again. If you are planning on leaving in Feb, why not give management an ultimatum. Promote me and increase my salary a bunch or I'll leave. If they say no, then you're good. But if they meet your demands, you might be much better off.

    You sound like you're extremely valuable. Use that to your advantage. Walking away without doing so may be a loss of an opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gear02
    I think you should try to force their hands again. If you are planning on leaving in Feb, why not give management an ultimatum. Promote me and increase my salary a bunch or I'll leave. If they say no, then you're good. But if they meet your demands, you might be much better off.

    You sound like you're extremely valuable. Use that to your advantage. Walking away without doing so may be a loss of an opportunity.

    But he also needs more staff, alot more staff. you could pay me 100,000 and I could only work 100 hour weeks for so long and only take so much BS. but gear02 is right, give an ultimatime before you leave.
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    Quit that ****ty ass job and move to San Diego. Finance is always in demand in this mutha****a.
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    Your title is "Why I Want To Kill Myself", but it sounds like you already are! You need some sort of actual break- say at least three weeks (one will not be enough- it will just give you time to think about what you have to do yet). Whether that is just a vacation or a career change- you are certainly overdue! Save yourself! The company won't- unless you go out on stress leave. Talk with other friends in the industry discretely to see if they may be aware of any positions in other places. This is the most effective method of finding a new one if you go that direction. You might even decide to do something else for a change. At least you are taking control again! Good luck with eveything! There is more to life!
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    not just a promotion and raise, but a ****ing vacation too. you definitly need one of those

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    that was too long to read. you need some cliffs at the bottom.

    but whatever it all entails, i do hope you really aren't contemplating killing yourself.

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    I feel for you Ray, and I really hope things look up soon. I bet when you give your notice, they'll take notice and realize they can't lose you. Like my mama always says, "the only people who walk all over you are the ones you let".

    Good luck whatever you decide!
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    I see that bottle of Absinthe I got you in Europe is being put to good use!

    Seriously, I had a similiar situation 5 years ago (Merlin know this quite well) and I was ready to quit several times before I suddenly happened upon my current employer and landed an engineering position before I gave my old employer my 2 weeks' notice. They virtually crapped their pants when I did that and asked me to stay on for another month and I negotiated a much higher rate for that.

    I would have a sit-down with your CFO and carefully and plainly outline what you need and want. Be honest and matter-of-fact about it. I am sure your CFO will want some time to try and see what he/she can do. If they don't give you more than 67% of what you want give your 2-weeks notice immediately (or quit without 2-weeks' notice to have an even greater impact). I know that might sound harsh but if you want to send them a message about what they are doing to you, that would be it. You might want to make sure you have a nice resignation letter handy outlining in a diplomatic fashion exactly why you're leaving. I did that and it caused a large "ripple effect" at my old employer - they made a many sweeping changes when I left because all of my statements were quite valid and needed to be addressed asap or else they were going to lose many more people the same way.
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    First and foremost-your health is the most important thing-and to be honest-I read your post and you sound completely fried...Now maybe it's me, but it seems like having a stroke, or dropping dead from high blood pressure is not a better option than leaving the job and finding something else..with your apparent qualifications, finding something new shouldn't be too hard...but just remember-make the employers you start contacting meet your needs-not you meeting theirs..this is so important in the business world anymore..if you say "I'm worth XXX amount of dollars"..and they say..well we are only offering you "this much"..and it's less than what you have asked for...then tell them to blow. That's the first footprint they would put on your back to walking ALL over you if you accepted their offer..chances are..they'll rethink their decisions and meet your demands..as far as the place where you are now..sounds to me like they have beat you into the ground with a sharp stick. Now you can burn your bridges and walk out and leave them high and dry, but the best option is to give them notice...Good luck=and for God's sake CHILL OUT...you're tighter than a nipple clamp on a stripper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevster
    I see that bottle of Absinthe I got you in Europe is being put to good use!

    Seriously, I had a similiar situation 5 years ago (Merlin know this quite well) and I was ready to quit several times before I suddenly happened upon my current employer and landed an engineering position before I gave my old employer my 2 weeks' notice. They virtually crapped their pants when I did that and asked me to stay on for another month and I negotiated a much higher rate for that.

    I would have a sit-down with your CFO and carefully and plainly outline what you need and want. Be honest and matter-of-fact about it. I am sure your CFO will want some time to try and see what he/she can do. If they don't give you more than 67% of what you want give your 2-weeks notice immediately (or quit without 2-weeks' notice to have an even greater impact). I know that might sound harsh but if you want to send them a message about what they are doing to you, that would be it. You might want to make sure you have a nice resignation letter handy outlining in a diplomatic fashion exactly why you're leaving. I did that and it caused a large "ripple effect" at my old employer - they made a many sweeping changes when I left because all of my statements were quite valid and needed to be addressed asap or else they were going to lose many more people the same way.

    you have absolutely nothing to lose if you are going to quit anyway. and i not talking about just demanding more money.

    you're WAY too freakin' young to be this stressed out. you don't even own a house, have a wife or kids yet. 100 hour weeks? i have only worked 70 hours maybe 4 times in my life. that's insanity. you're way too cool of a person to put yourself through this.

    btw, i read the whole post.
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    Hey bro. sorry to hear about all that crap... the accounting group in my company regularly works similar hours to what you're saying....and finally, too many people started to quit to go to other places where it's a little easier..... so, the managers did the unthinkable.... they hired more people to ease the workload....

    I think you should give an ultimatum..promote you to manager and allow you to hire 2-3 new people to take over work. you'll supervise them, and handle all the finance stuff for that company. and you report directly to the CFO...none of the extra layer of middle management crap. I think it would be good to have that title of management before you leave so that when you stick your resume somewhere else, they don't put you in the bottom of the totem pole. If you leave as a manager, you'll more than likely have a better offer next time around.

    if they don't meet your demands...yeah, you should quit. give your 2 week notice...start working 9 hour days for your last 2 weeks.... and have a great vacation. =)

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    Workaholics should run their own business. Seriously, I know that many small businesses fail because the owners don't work hard enough themselves (I've been employed by two small businesses that failed for just that reason) and it seems like you enjoy work enough to make one sucessful. Why work 70 hour weeks for someone else's gain?

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    very well said. that's why i don't own my own business. i don't work hard enough. lol.
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    Ray, you need to decide what's important to you. If it's the money, then focus on that, but be aware that a lot of managers will slap the golden handcuffs on you and then bleed you.

    I went through a situation where I gave up everything for a job-- and every time I complained I was given another check. At some point, I realized that my mental and physical health- along with the people in my life-- were more important than the money.
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    i'm with the others that say to talk ot the CFO and straight up say what's going on and what you want. yupp, nothing to lose. work it baby!
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    man, whatever happens, someone needs to take ray out for hookers and beer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maarchk
    Hmm well i read through a couple hundred posts and i found out you talk abotu a lot of stuff but only mention work occasionally... hehe but thats probably best for you so you dont go crazy... By the way, did you go to BC? My brother graduated there in 98' and i used to hang out and play ball there... That would be funny if i had met you then but didn't know. oh well. getting back to the topic, can i ask if this is your first job and or what degrees you have?
    Graduated BC in 2002. Used to play ball with Doug Flutie over at the rec center. heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cantacuzene
    Workaholics should run their own business. Seriously, I know that many small businesses fail because the owners don't work hard enough themselves (I've been employed by two small businesses that failed for just that reason) and it seems like you enjoy work enough to make one sucessful. Why work 70 hour weeks for someone else's gain?
    Oh, believe me. The only reason I am working for someone else is so that I can save enough capital to start my own business. I WILL have my own business in the next couple years and I WILL work my ass into the ground to make it succeed. Just need to save a bit more money before I dive into that sea.

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    then you'll have money to take everyone else out for hookers and beer, right?

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    Maybe he could start a hooker and beer company?

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    i can help him get started on the beer side. the hookers, well, he's on his own for that one.

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    I agree wholeheartedly with what has been said. First of all if you are working that hard then you're obviously valuable to your company and they will presumably make good offers or give you what you want to have you stay onboard - at this point you've got nothing to lose so you might as well say what you want before you leave. Careful to not burn too many bridges, though - you may need these guys as a reference for a future position elsewhere so make your demands and I guess if they're not met, just leave as you seem mentally ready to do that. You do sound really stressed and beat out so this break is probably for all the best.

    As for finding a position, I don't know where you're working nowadays but going back to Boston (if you're not already there) can be a good place to start looking for something in finance. From what you said I think you won't have too much trouble finding something after you leave. But yeah leave ASAP unless they really make an effort to keep you - you sound too stressed and can use a vacation!
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