Police: Woman sold daughter for car

[Joshua]

Not sure if this should go in the Auto Forum..

OKEECHOBEE, Florida (AP) -- A woman was arrested for allegedly forcing her 12-year-old daughter into prostitution and trading a 14-year-old daughter for a car.

The 39-year-old woman was charged with aggravated child abuse and sexual performance by a child. Both girls have been turned over to the Department of Children & Families.

The youngest girl and her mother were living out of their car, and would sell sex for food and an occasional shower at the men's homes, according to a report by Okeechobee County Sheriff's Detective K.J. Ammons.

The youngest daughter is three months pregnant, the report said; she was 11 when her mother first forced her to have sex with a man. The older daughter refused to be a prostitute and was allegedly sold for a car.

"She was sold to a man for a Mercury Cougar," Ammons said. "But he never gave the mother the vehicle." He was arrested in the case.

The youngest girl told detectives her mother took them out of school. "She said she was a good student and made A's and B's, and all she wants to do is go back to school," he said.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/13/dau....ap/index.html

[eSDee]

I wonder what year the Cougar was.

[LegendKiller]

I wonder what year the Cougar was.

Dude, so wrong but I just spit coffee out because it was so funny

[Airencracken]

I wonder what year the Cougar was.

Oh sh*t that's fvcked up EsDee! Awesome.

and I thought my mom was a b*tch.

Not surprising it's in florida...

[welfareloser]

and

[RoniMan]

Dude, so wrong but I just spit coffee out because it was so funny

....er...i mean .....

[nickel]

sad sad, just sad

what a horrible childhood, and failure of the system. i wonder how she just "took them out of school"?

[Joshua]

i wonder how she just "took them out of school"?

http://www.homeschooling.com/

[mrmb123]

More proof not everyone is qualified to "homeschool" .. Very sad

[nickel]

http://www.homeschooling.com/

yeh, but i didn't see that mentioned in the article.

hey - i know there are some homeschoolers here. how are you/your children checked for indication that home schooling is indeed happening?

[sizemic1]

Funny..when I read the title I was wondering what kind of car she was traded for

[Showtime]

What kind of ****ed up **** is this? The child is 12 years old and pregnant now.

The mother is completely unfit and should have given up the kids. Stupid self centered cow. I'm very impressed with the elder daughter for sticking up for herself. Too bad no one protected the little sister.

-j

[mrmb123]

Here in FL, you have to file papers with the county saying your not enrolling in school and submit a portfolio of work every year to qualify. Don't know if they are required to take the standardized tests but many do.

[cheapchinese]

i'm wondering if she can get an abortion, since she's a minor and all
but seeing this is in florida(Pro Life)...impossible

[bachviet]

Weird craps happen in FL.

This is f*ck up!

[molecularfire]

Man... we really need more laws to protect children from despicable excuses of human wastes. Every man of reproductive age should be vasectomized and have it reversed only after they have shown that they are fit to be parents.

[BrewMaster]

i wonder how she just "took them out of school"?

well, when you don't have an address since you are living out of your car, it's kind of hard for the school and/or cops to track you down.

[whitak24]

I wonder what year the Cougar was.

yeah, i was going to say....if i trade my kid for a car, it better at least be a BMW 5 series, 2002 or newer -- excellent condition, and low mileage.

i mean, a kid has a lot of years left....you need to get equal value back.

on a serious note, that is completely f*cked up

[ShawnLee]

Let's start taking up for a legal defense fund.
If Canta, LK, or IAHAD goes and takes this woman out, I'll be pitching in.

[OC]

Those poor kids, especially the younger one.

I really wonder what the hell we can do to protect kids more.

[CrystalDuck]

Man... we really need more laws to protect children from despicable excuses of human wastes. Every man of reproductive age should be vasectomized and have it reversed only after they have shown that they are fit to be parents.

[molecularfire]

Holy crap!!! Someone here actually agrees with me.



Nice to meet you.

[zenbooty]

Man... we really need more laws to protect children from despicable excuses of human wastes. Every man of reproductive age should be vasectomized and have it reversed only after they have shown that they are fit to be parents.

This would just make things worse. You sterilize a generation of 12, 13, and 14 year old boys against their will and against cultural custom and frankly, human norm, and you're going to have a generation of truly f**ked up individuals on your hands. A generation of psychopaths and damaged goods, probably.

[InfiniteNothing]

Also, a percentage of those vasectamines will end up irreversable. It would also create a large black market for repairs; sperm donating will become an industry; Urology will go in extrodinary demand bring the price beyond the reach of everyone but the extreeme rich.

[CrystalDuck]

How many 13 year olds do you know who care about their sperm? I'm not a guy, so I don't really know, but I would think that they would be relieved that now they don't have to worry about birth control or babies, just how to get in a girl's pants. And it would be easier to get in a girl's pants because she isn't worried about getting knocked up.

Yes, some would be irreversible, but I think you exaggerate the consequences of that. Some people would be depressed that they can't have kids, but that's already true. And once everybody is getting snipped, doctors will get more practice reversing them, and new methods will be developed that are easier to reverse.

Black market for repair? Maybe. I know some people REALLY want kids, but don't you think that by and large those will be the people who are capable of raising them? I don't care if a few get by if we can massively reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. And high demand for urology? Come on, you know econ. That will fix itself.

Despite all this, I realize it aint happening. Bearing children is nature's gift to healthy animals who lived long enough to become fertile. Just because it would be a really, really good thing, doesn't mean we can take away basic rights. But maybe we could set a program that would offer free reversals for those who choose to get snipped.

[welfareloser]

How many 13 year olds do you know who care about their sperm? ... Yes, some would be irreversible, but I think you exaggerate the consequences of that. Some people would be depressed that they can't have kids, but that's already true. And once everybody is getting snipped, doctors will get more practice reversing them, and new methods will be developed that are easier to reverse..

have a conversation with a reproductive endocrinologist sometime. the quote that sticks with me is: "when you want to have kids, and you can't, nothing else matters. NOTHING." people will spend every dime they have to make it happen. the consequences are massive. it's on par with losing your spouse to sudden death... winding up in a wheelchair. it's as big as big gets, save, perhaps, your own death.

talk to someone who has been diagnosed infertile, whether they want kids now or not. ask how it makes them feel about themselves. find a 13-year-old boy who's had an injury that will mean he'll never be able to have kids. ask him how it affected his sense of manhood.

and you really are wrong about it just taking "practice" and "new methods" to reverse vasectomies. when sperm don't get released, testes stop making viable sperm. period. no "practice" or "method" in the world fixes that. and the longer after the snip it is, the higher the percentage that become permanent.

Black market for repair? Maybe.

definitely.

I know some people REALLY want kids, but don't you think that by and large those will be the people who are capable of raising them? I don't care if a few get by if we can massively reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.

unfortunately... most people want kids, including those who are massively incapable of raising them. don't you watch springer? "i'm 14 and trying to get pregnant!"

And high demand for urology? Come on, you know econ. That will fix itself..

sure. in 20 years. do you know how long it takes to train a urologist?

Despite all this, I realize it aint happening. ... Just because it would be a really, really good thing, doesn't mean we can take away basic rights.

i'll agree with the last half of that last sentence, anyhoo

as for it ain't happening... it did once. from the 1920s through the 1960s, tens of thousands of poor people were deemed "mentally incompetent" in the usa, and were sterilized against their will. they are alive and well and very much childless today. look into what they think about it...

anyway. it didn't do much for crime rates, etc, so i'd call it not a good thing and definitely not worth trying again.





As for this particular case... drug addict. it is amazing the depths to which humanity can sink. drug-addicted mothers prostituting their daughters is all too common. i can't even imagine what it must be like.



and i seriously doubt this woman even made a pretense of "homeschooling." you can take a kid out of school, and nobody checks up on it. happens all the time. school districts are tiny, local things. if a registered student goes truant, someone might make a few calls. but if you move, and never register at another school... or even if you don't move, but the school admin already knows that the mother is irresponsible, what can they do? they may save themselves the effort and never even try to see what's up.

[cheapie]

Let's start taking up for a legal defense fund.
If Canta, LK, or IAHAD goes and takes this woman out, I'll be pitching in.

no no...canta only VOTES in florida. he lives in atlanta!

[DarkFury]

I wonder what year the Cougar was.

And here I was thinkin'... "What is the trade value of a 14 year old girl..."

[LegendKiller]

I thought about taking a road trip . J/K, in all honesty the legal system will take care of her pretty well, as well as other mothers in jail/prison.

[cheapie]

And here I was thinkin'... "What is the trade value of a 14 year old girl..."

shouldn't we be asking you that question??? you're the pimp!