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Thread: Work or girl... what to do...?

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    Work or girl... what to do...?

    Work Background:

    I am part of a team at work that goes out to high profile national or international events (Presidential Inauguration, Olympics, etc. etc.). I havent been afforded an opportunity to travel internationally yet (although Ive been days from going to places like Iraq and Afghanistan, yet the assignments have been cancelled), but I have a fairly large desire to do so. Thing is, it seems like everytime my name is associated with an international event or trip, it gets cancelled for one reason or another. I kid you not, I think I've been cancelled on 6 or 7 times in the past year now. It's almost become comical.

    Girl Background:

    Went to a wedding for one of my best friends about 3 weeks ago. Flew across the country to be part of it, and while I was there, fell fairly hard for the maid of honor, who happens to be (my friend) the brides cousin. We've been talking back and forth since and her (MoH) birthday is around the 4th of July. We decided we'd meet up in Vegas (bride lives there now) for a week to visit both the bride and each other. I went all out, buying a suite at a very nice hotel with a jacuzzi overlooking the fountains at the Bellagio and generally planning to have a great time with this girl. She bought her airline ticket yesterday, I was planning on doing mine today.

    Fast forward to today at work...

    I get a visit from the program manager of the work team. He says he needs me to go to London to work at Scotland Yard for 10 days to support the US and their interests in the G8 summit. I'm thinking "how cool is this? Scotland Yard, London, make a ton of $$$ in OT and expenses," hell ya I'll go. Then he tells me the date. The same damned week that I was planning to go to Vegas. I'm completely crushed, thinking well damn, guess I can't go. I state my previous plans to him and tell him if I am the only person on the team that can go, I'd be willing to do so IF they can guarantee I'm not going to get cancelled on again.

    This would require me to break a certain girls heart, cancel my flight, hotel room, etc. etc. If I was to cancel all my personal plans and find out that I am getting the shaft 2 days before we are supposed to leave, I'd be fairly upset. He understood my point and reiterated that I was the only person that was qualified and able to go. Granted, it's hard to say no to my employer, but what's a guy supposed to do? I asked him to look over his list again and see if he could find somebody else, but if not, I was willing to do it. (No no, please don't force me to go to London... )

    On one hand, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to go to London and work at Scotland Yard. I've been trying to get on an international trip for nearly 2 years now, and here's another chance to go (I just got passed up on to go to Morocco and Saudi Arabia last week). Yeah, there will be others later, as there always is. But both the project manager and my direct supervisor think this is a great opportunity for me to get my international feet wet.

    On the other hand, I already have big plans (both literally and figuratively) with this girl. I'm not one who takes to bailing on somebody lightly, especially in a situation like this. I called her this afternoon when I found out about all this and was very up front and honest, saying I may not be able to make it and why. She was crushed, yet understanding. She said not to worry, if I can't make it we'll plan it again for another time. She even said I could just fly her out here and we'd call it even .

    So, what do I choose? Work or the girl? Yea, I can always take the girl to Vegas again. I can't just go to Scotland Yard anytime I want to though. But I hate disappointing people, especially ones I am trying to get closer to. But do I shoot myself in the foot at work and say no? Do I be a team player and just go? Which do I go with, my head or my heart?
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    Benefits of going with work: this trip will broaden your horizons, get you more reputation with your boss
    Losses of going with work: money spent on that trip, missing out on a good time

    Benefits of going with girl: it'll be one heck of a fun trip, possible love connection
    Losses of going with girl: missing out on work experience, no guarantees if it will continue afterwards

    It's quite a pickle... I can understand your unease!
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    I'd say given their history of canceling on you, you shouldn't give up what sounds like one of the most exciting things to happen to you this year. This girl will be so wowed that you rejected an assignment like that that she'll feel really special. Plus, she already bought her ticket, so you must have something good going with her. This could be the start of something with her, while it's just the next logical step with your job. Anyone who would blame you for turning down that assignment would be a real tool.

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    Ask her to visit you in London. If it's meant to be....

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    i dunno, is your boss the kind of guy who would be understanding if you didn't go to england? and why?
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    Who ever said on their deathbed, "If I only spent more time at the office..."

    If it was me, without a doubt I would go see that girl. This work opportunity will come again some other time. For further references, see the movie, "Good Will Hunting". You'll understand then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrystalDuck
    I'd say given their history of canceling on you, you shouldn't give up what sounds like one of the most exciting things to happen to you this year. This girl will be so wowed that you rejected an assignment like that that she'll feel really special. Plus, she already bought her ticket, so you must have something good going with her. This could be the start of something with her, while it's just the next logical step with your job. Anyone who would blame you for turning down that assignment would be a real tool.
    Well, I already have my flight and hotel booked for Vegas. I don't have to cancel the hotel until the 29th (day I leave for london) to get my $$$ back. So if they do cancel, I still have Vegas in the back pocket, ready to go.
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    Kevster is right. Work will always be there. You may never have the chance to find that one "right person" again though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian
    i dunno, is your boss the kind of guy who would be understanding if you didn't go to england? and why?
    My boss, yeah, I'd hope so. She might see it as I've been begging to go overseas, here's an opportunity, but you're turning it down now?

    The Program Manager is kinda hard to read... I'm not real sure how he'd percieve it.
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    I voted before I completely read the thing.

    I say you go to London, but take her with you. I think that's a brilliant move.

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    London definetly. If the girl doesnt understand well shes not worth being with.

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    Weddings always make things feel more romantic.

    Anyways...
    She will like you for staying, but she'll respect you for going and will show where her heart is at when you ask her to come visit you in the UK. I mean if she isn't willing to visit you, why should you will be willing to put your career on hold?
    I highly recommend going. It is a nice place to visit and there are some cool people there that can help you forget her if she disses you.

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    Tell your boss you can't make it, and if she gets mad at you take her to Tuna Town for the night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevster
    Who ever said on their deathbed, "If I only spent more time at the office..."
    I'd agree if the decision was between the Vegas trip and sitting in a cubicle from 8 to 5. However, since it's in London and in my eyes, sounds like a great opportunity for a young person (ask any recent college grad, they'd sell a kidney to do it ), the stakes are raised, making the decision not so simple!

    That said, the Vegas trip could also be the trip of a lifetime... grrr, I'm frustrated for you.
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    so you'd like to travel regularly then? then the girl will just have to get used to the fact that sometimes, you have to take off to London for a week or so. Yeah, it sucks to have to cancel on her, but if this is something you've been waiting for, it seems a shame that you blow your chance now. She'll understand - it's work, you didn't purposely schedule it on that date.
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    Having been to London many times, I still say you should go and see that girl.
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    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
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    Screw Vegas, bring her to London company paid

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    Quote Originally Posted by ray
    Screw Vegas, bring her to London company paid


    Ya, that'd be great, except the company just happens to frown upon that sort of thing.

    I had actually thought of doing that on my own dime, but I'm not sure how much free time I'll have... don't want to pay $1500 for airfare for her and then have her hang out by herself all day.
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    It's 10 days, not 2 months. See if you can take some time off after you get back (4-5 days, a week, 2 weeks, whatever) and then go visit her. Doesn't have to be Vegas. But make the effort to go to her after the work. And send her flowers the day you leave to let her know you are thinking of her.
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    I still say go to Vegas, but Jenny's advice would be the next best thing. If the girl isn't pissed at you for ditching her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSS
    Ya, that'd be great, except the company just happens to frown upon that sort of thing.

    I had actually thought of doing that on my own dime, but I'm not sure how much free time I'll have... don't want to pay $1500 for airfare for her and then have her hang out by herself all day.
    I did that last time I had to go to London. My wife went along with me and traveled around London during the day. I had to work in several places, including Saville Row, Cromwell road (East London), and Docklands (Isle of Dogs) so she just went and did the tourist thing and kept in touch with me by mobile.
    I think over again
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    The small ones that seemed so big,
    For all the vital things I had to get and to reach.

    And yet there is only one great thing, the only thing:

    To live to see the great day that dawns,
    And the light that fills the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It's 10 days, not 2 months. See if you can take some time off after you get back (4-5 days, a week, 2 weeks, whatever) and then go visit her. Doesn't have to be Vegas. But make the effort to go to her after the work. And send her flowers the day you leave to let her know you are thinking of her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It's 10 days, not 2 months. See if you can take some time off after you get back (4-5 days, a week, 2 weeks, whatever) and then go visit her. Doesn't have to be Vegas. But make the effort to go to her after the work. And send her flowers the day you leave to let her know you are thinking of her.
    if it's possible for you to take the time off of work, I say go to London and then go visit her when you come back. It becomes a win-win situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jenny
    It's 10 days, not 2 months. See if you can take some time off after you get back (4-5 days, a week, 2 weeks, whatever) and then go visit her. Doesn't have to be Vegas. But make the effort to go to her after the work. And send her flowers the day you leave to let her know you are thinking of her.
    yep, Jenny has winning advice.

    also, the girl seems very understanding:
    Quote Originally Posted by IrishSS
    I called her this afternoon when I found out about all this and was very up front and honest, saying I may not be able to make it and why. She was crushed, yet understanding. She said not to worry, if I can't make it we'll plan it again for another time. She even said I could just fly her out here and we'd call it even
    you can make plans with her when you get back. sounds like she'll definitely still be there for you.

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    Whatever you decide, good luck with the trip &/or girl.
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    Ive pretty much decided to go to London. It is a rare opportunity and hard to pass up. She'll be there when I get back, as will Vegas... and she's been very understanding, which is a postive. I'll just be sure to make it up to her.
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    i think that jenny gave perfect advice as well...

    send the girl some flowers and be sure to bring her back a reeeeally nice souvenir

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    with regards to Jenny's advice. Take care of both. It's not as "romantic" but then you never see the end of romantic movies where the guy leaves his job for a girl.

    I was about to come into this thread saying you should go for the girl and thinking about Robin Williams in Good Will Hunting, but reading both sides, I say London. It's only a short time, and you'll be back soon enough.
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    I dunno. I say London. Vegas will always be there, but you won't always have a chance at Scotland Yard. If the girl's really into you, she'll understand and just make your plans for immediately when you get back. On that note, why can't you just change your Vegas plans to a week earlier, then go straight to London?

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