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    Baseball and softball dropped from 2012 Olympics

    Ok seriously.... those are the choices for the replacements.

    SINGAPORE (AP) - Baseball and softball, two sports invented in America, were dropped Friday from the program for the 2012 Olympics in London - the first sports cut from the Summer Games in 69 years. But the IOC couldn't agree on their replacements.

    Each of the 28 existing sports was put to a secret vote by the International Olympic Committee, and baseball and softball failed to receive a majority required to stay on the program. The other 26 sports made the cut.
    The IOC then voted from a waiting list of five sports: golf, rugby, squash, karate and roller sports. Squash and karate won the ballots, but then were rejected in final confirmation votes.

    Requiring a two-thirds approval for inclusion on the program, squash was rejected 63-39 and karate 63-38.

    It was a stunning conclusion to a long, complex voting procedure, and means that 26 sports will be contested at the London Games.

    "I would like to thank you very much because this was a very, very important day for the International Olympic Committee," IOC president Jacques Rogge said. "You have taken important decisions - and this was a very democratic process."

    Baseball and softball, which will remain on the program for the 2008 Beijing Games, are the first sports eliminated from the Olympics since polo in 1936.

    Baseball, which became a medal sport in 1992, has been vulnerable because it doesn't bring top Major League players to the Olympics and because of the sport's doping problem in the United States. Softball, a women's medal sport since 1996, has been in danger because of a perceived lack of global appeal and participation.

    Rogge said the two sports would be eligible to win their way back onto the Olympic program for 2016.

    "I feel like somebody who has been thrown out - it's certainly not a good feeling," said Aldo Notari, the Italian president of the international baseball federation. "I don't think the IOC members know our sport deeply enough. But we'll continue to survive. We're looking ahead to Beijing and putting on a good show."

    The absence of major league stars from the Olympics is a big issue for the IOC, which wants the world's top athletes from all sports in the games.

    "The lack of the MLB players - I think people have looked and said, "Well, all right, if there's to be a change, that seems to be the logic of it," British IOC member Craig Reedie said.

    Baseball's steroid problem in the United States was cited as another factor. While Major League Baseball has toughened its drug-testing programs, they still fall far short of Olympic standards.

    "Problems with doping in U.S. baseball probably cost the sport dearly," Australian IOC member John Coates said.

    Several IOC members also cited high stadium costs associated with both sports, saying baseball and softball venues have little post-games use in some host cities.

    "I think they've made a big, big mistake," said Tommy Lasorda, the former Dodgers manager who guided the U.S. team to the gold medal in the 2000 Sydney Games. "Baseball is played by all countries now and softball, too. I think that's really going to hurt the Olympics. I don't want to knock the other sports, but I think this is a big mistake. I am very disappointed."

    Don Porter, the American president of the international softball federation, said he was devastated by the vote.

    "We thought that we had a lot of support," he said. "The members told us we were getting support, but obviously we weren't."

    Porter said the decision goes back to Mexico City in 2002 when Rogge tried - but failed - to get baseball, softball and modern pentathlon removed.

    "It took them three years and now they got us out," he said. "I just think the IOC wanted some opportunity to introduce several new sports ... and in order to do that, they had to remove a couple of sports and that's what they did today."

    Porter noted that modern pentathlon, which has been on the program since the first modern games in 1896, had tradition and European support on its side.

    "Europe has strong voting power in the IOC," he said. "They worked hard, they did the right thing to get enough to stay in."

    The IOC kept Friday's voting figures secret. Not even the IOC members or sports federations were given the totals. The secrecy was requested by the international federations in order to avoid any ranking or embarrassment for any sports which just barely made the cut.

    Rogge said an independent official was sending the results by sealed envelope to an IOC notary in Lausanne, Switzerland. Rogge will only open the envelope in the case of a voting dispute.

    Senior Canadian member Dick Pound harshly criticized the secrecy, saying it undermined the IOC's moves for openness.

    "What kind of message does the IOC send when there is complete secrecy on an issue that is important to the world?" Pound said. "It's off message in the year 2005. We should be proud that we're able to decide and we should know exactly what the outcomes should be."
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    wow. this is a HUGE blow for the women's softball team.
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    Rugby would be good. I'd pay to see US/Iran, if they indeed field a team. Talk about a potential bloodbath. Or how about Korea/Japan, or China/Japan?
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    The US looses a future gold medal (in softball).
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    Ouch, yeah, BIG blow to the US Women's Softball team.
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    Losing softball is sad. The US had a good team but the field was competitive. Just ask the Aussies.

    Baseball does make me sad. That could have been great. The US, Japan, Mexico, Cuba, and several Latin American countries could have put on a good tournament. Although I must admit that even though I am a big baseball fan I've never watched Olympic baseball. At least MLB is trying to put on a "World" tournament soon. It will probably wind up being better than anything we would see in the Olympics.

    Like the stroy said, the IOC has a lot of European influence. I don't think they know how popular the sport is throughout the western hemisphere. Too bad.

    Aside from that rugby and golf would make good additions. I was in Australia a few years ago when they were hosting the rugby world cup and I can tell you it was elecrtic. The UK, Scots, Irish, Aussies, All Blacks, Japanese, French, South Africans, and even the US put on one hell of a show. It is worthy of a would stage. Although given how tough the sport is getting a full tourney in within the two weeks will be difficult.

    Golf...We've got the Davis Cup but so much more can be done. The US has a really good golf circuit but so does Europe and Asia. Getting all those folks together could be great. And the way golf works you would have little trouble getting in a team competition and individual tournament for both men and women during the games. Bonus is that most places established enough to host games already have world class courses nearby. So not a lot of construction/cost to add them.
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    those are two sports i enjoy playing and enjoy watching. i hope they will bring them back. if not, i'm sure the underwater basketweaving that replaces them will be entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merlin
    Aside from that rugby and golf would make good additions. I was in Australia a few years ago when they were hosting the rugby world cup and I can tell you it was elecrtic. The UK, Scots, Irish, Aussies, All Blacks, Japanese, French, South Africans, and even the US put on one hell of a show. It is worthy of a would stage. Although given how tough the sport is getting a full tourney in within the two weeks will be difficult.
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    Just to clarify, the All-Blacks are the New Zealanders and they're called that because of their uniforms. (an all-black shirt with a silver fern). I agree with Merlin, Rugby is a worthy sport for the Olympics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickel


    those are two sports i enjoy playing and enjoy watching. i hope they will bring them back. if not, i'm sure the underwater basketweaving that replaces them will be entertaining.
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    Well I'll sure miss watching the softball competition. Just cuz American's are best at it shouldn't mean they should take it out of The Olympics. But hey, what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainsmile
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    I am surprised that the U.S. hasn't responded to the decision. It is obviously a case of anti-America bias that led to the decision to get rid of baseball and softball.

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