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    S/NS - Interesting Vacation (LONG story, but worth the read if ya ask me)

    OK, so I spent the past week in Budapest & Prague. It was a long but interesting week. Basically, if you can't come out of traveling with a decent story, then what's the point? Unfortunately, the story didn't have the happiest beginning or ending, but not bad either . . . definitely interesting, though . . . and as they say, 'no harm, no foul.'

    Cliff's Notes

    - Missed Flight
    - Meeting co-worker in Budapest
    - Stupidly Scammed in Budapest (not by the co-worker)
    - Unintended "ass Florins"
    - Getting out of said scam (with very minor damage)
    - Very attractive girls in Prague (including a member of a very prominent family of Russian defense contractors)
    - Cocaine (not I, of course)

    Original Travel Plans

    11/26: Fly from Frankfurt to Budapest
    11/30: Train from Budapest to Prague
    12/4: Fly from Prague home to Frankfurt

    In the end, the timing doesn't change, except I end up flying from Budapest to Prague on 11/30 instead of taking the train . . . this has story implications to follow.

    Missed Flight

    My trip to Budapest and Prague started last Saturday by trying to make my 9:30AM flight to Budapest. I was at the airport in Frankfurt plenty early, but decided to grab breakfast there.

    I left the airport restaurant at 9 to catch my flight, which was supposed to be very near by. As it turns out, a series of airport-caused 'detours' and an extra security checkpoint conspired to make me arrive at the gate at 9:17 . . . 13 minutes before departure time, but unfortunately about 2 minutes after they decided to close the gate. Great. Missed my flight.

    Had to go back through passport control (thank goodness for the EU passport) to get back to ticketing. I had the choice of being re-booked for Sunday at 110 Euros, or on the next flight on a different airline for 260 Euros. No way I was going to go back home, drag my ass out of bed the next morning and do this again, so I ponied up for the extra 150 . . . plus, I found that for only 30 Euros more, I could get a flight from Budapest to Prague added (instead of the originally planned train). No brainer. In addition, I really wanted to get to Budapest on Saturday, since one of my co-workers (who is from Budapest) would be there for the night, and I wanted to be taken out in Budapest by a local.

    Meeting Co-Worker in Budapest (rather uneventful but fun)

    Made it to Budapest and had a very fun Saturday night. The beauty of Hungarian women is not exagerated in the least.

    Enjoyed a couple rather uneventful but enjoyable days running around Budapest - taking in monuments, taking pictures, drinking lots of beer . . .

    Getting Scammed in Budapest

    Cut to Monday night . . . walking along Vaci Utca (the main pedestrian shopping avenue in Budapest) around midnight after taking in a jazz club, I'm approached by 2 women - maybe 30 years old, very nicely dressed, not overly made-up, very well-spoken, generally seeming quite nice.

    Now, I tend to have very good instincts when it comes to people. But, when I travel, I am particularly open to meeting people and trying to take in the culture, etc. Generally, I try to have a more open approach than I normally would.

    Well, they asked if I wanted to go grab a drink at a local bar. My scammy sense was going off, and in fact, walking along that same stretch on prior nights, I had been approached by a bunch of pairs of girls where the scammy sense had said "NO!" . . . but these women didn't seem quite the same . . . seemed a lot more genuine (In the end, my senses weren't completely off) . . .

    We walked a block or two, and arrived at a bar that was accessed by an elevator to a second floor garden . . . pretty nice, actually. Walking inside, we passed a few guys at the door who had a little chuckle as we walked in . . . I knew at that moment, I should have listened to the scammy sense . . . I'd been taken in and it was too late to get out.

    So, the bar is pretty much empty except for a band playing and maybe 5 other people sitting throughout a pretty decently-sized room.

    We sit in a booth and I order a beer . . . the 2 ladies order some sort of coffee (ordered in Magyar). There's a bit of awkward conversation, where one is talkative, and asking rather leading and flirtatious questions, while the other is very quiet. I do my best 'Opie from Mayberry' impression and avoid saying anything that could be construed as interested, while still being very polite. After a bit of my beer, I need to go to the restroom (#2), so I excuse myself and head off. With that, the quiet one decides she needs to go, too . . . ostensibly to make sure I don't make a mad dash out of the place.

    Ass Florins

    While in the toilet, I take inventory of what I've got on me of value . . . about 7,500 Hungarian Florins (approx. $35) and my iPod, along with credit cards, etc.

    I thought for a second as to how I could hide value as much as possible, and basically the only thing I could do was take the 5,000 Florin bill I had and remove it from my pockets . . . but where to put it? Well, I folded it and placed it between my cheeks (as though I was going to be wiping with it). My iPod sure as hell wasn't going to go there, so that would be a goner if push came to shove . . . though, that wouldn't be a huge loss since I was thinking about getting one of the video ones anyway.

    In the end, it's silly that I bothered doing that with the 5,000 Florin bill . . . it's like $25 . . . but it ends up making things funnier, and ya should always try to minimize loss when it's easy enough to do so . . .

    Anywho, I went back to the table (quiet girl was waiting for me outside the bathroom) and finished my beer and asked for the check.

    Waitress came over with the check . . . my beer was 4,000 Florins (about $20 and 10x what a beer normally costs in Budapest). The Coffees the ladies had were supposedly coffees (2,000 Florins each) with Remy Martin XO Cognac (9,000 Florins each) in them . . . total cost of the bill for the 3 drinks was 26,000 Florins (about $130).

    Now, I can't think of a place in the world where Remy Martin XO Cognac costs only 125% more than a beer, but anyway . . .

    So I politely told the waitress that I would pay for my 'ridiculously expensive beer,' but the ladies were on their own for paying the rest.

    Of course, the 'ladies' claimed to only have about 2,500 Florins on them, so the waitress called over the . . ummm . . . 'maitre d'" . . . a HUGE ****er of a guy . . . who basically insisted that as the guy in the group, I had to pay for the balance and they had an ATM from which I could withdraw the funds if needed.

    Now, I realized, I wasn't getting out of this without paying at least for my beer, so I had to rather subtly reach under my jacket (which I'd never taken off), down the back of my jeans, and pull out the 5,000 Florin bill comfortably situated between the cheeks. This was no problem, and I handed it to him with a smile on my face saying that that should cover my beer with tip, but I wasn't going to pay the rest.

    Getting Out of the Scam . . .

    With my refusal to pay the rest, he got a little ornery and started rather forcefully saying that I would 'need' to pay the bill . . . with this, I basically called them on the scam . . . at which point, he pulled out his cell phone and started dialing a number and said he would have to call 'someone' to take care of this (I later found that guys who had imbibed a bit more than just a beer have been beaten rather mercilessly when they hadn't been able to pay the ridiculously inflated prices in there).

    Anyway, I replied that I would call the police.

    I was rather pleased with myself to this point given that I'd been rather calm and civil (it was certainly easier knowing that the maximum damage I would incur wasn't much . . . hell, $125 ain't a boatload and would be easily manageable if I weren't so stubborn).

    However, I had no intention to pay more than what my stupidity had brought me to order (turns out the menus clearly stated the price of a beer as 4,000 Florins . . . if I'd bothered checking, it wouldn't have been an issue . . . but they are right in assuming that nobody checks menus when they're just ordering drinks) . . . so I was willing to pay the 'stupid tax' on the beer, but nothing else.

    Anyway, remembering why I'd decided to go with them to begin with, I shifted my strategy based on the fact that the women seemed pretty genuine and nice . . . I started shaming them rather mercilessly while ignoring the ape standing above me . . . asking if they felt good about what they'd done, etc. I'd look them directly in the eye and ask them if they felt good about it . . . For about a minute, they continued to feign as though they were just short on money and it was an innocent mistake, but when they saw I knew that wasn't the case, their eyes dropped . . . the quiet one subtly shook her head when I asked her directly and seemed on the verge of tears.

    After a bit of this, the ape decided to 'request my presence' at the ATM to pull out the money. I offered my cc instead, but he didn't seem to like that. I continued to refuse, and with the quiet one standing next to me, I continued to talk directly to shame her by asking her rather rationally if she felt good about what she was doing and if she felt comfortable with how she was living her life, etc. As she was very nearly in tears, the ape said the more talkative one agreed that they would stay and pay for their drinks . . . they would call someone to cover their bill . . . I could go on my way.

    With that, I waved my hand, said "Have a good night" and went on my way to the elevator downstairs (half expecting somebody to jump me). However, all was good.

    In the end, I was out about $25, which is what it probably WOULD have cost me to buy a beer and a couple cognacs at a normal place, which would have been perfectly acceptable to me . . . plus, I got to give ass money to an ******* . . . AND, I got a good story out of it . . . definitely worth the $25. Hell, I couldn't have asked for more entertainment from my money.

    Nonetheless, I was a bit pissed at myself for having fallen for it in the first place, but I was rather pleased that my instincts weren't completely off . . . just needed a minor tweaking . . .

    Tuesday night, I was walking along the same stretch of street, and lo and behold . . . I see the quiet one with a different partner . . . we made eye contact and I smirked at her and she looked down while her partner was trying to get my attention since she didn't know what had gone on the previous night.

    Wednesday, it was off to Prague . . .

    OK, crap . . . this is long already, so I'll continue the Prague part in a separate post tomorrow . . .
    Last edited by Butch; 12-05-2005 at 05:29 PM.
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    sweet story! very interesting.
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    great story. looking forward to the next part!
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    I think he really wanted them to reach up front for his roll of quarters!

    I have to admit your story made me chuckle. I have to ask how you have an EU passport? When you are in these countries did you bother to speak auf deutsch?
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    I've been in situations like this myself but the women have always been prostitutes. They spend a few munites feeling you out but ordering expensive drinks. If you bite o that then they start floating offers for additional companionship.

    You were right on the edge though. If you bill had been much higher then you might have had to deal with the leg breakers...not too good a thought. Asking to call the cops was probably a good idea. It called their bluff so to speak.

    And note to travellers....from my personal experience you should be very aware if you meet eastern european/russian women in resort areas or if you are in China and a local asks if they can practice their English by talking to you.
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    OK . . . rest of the story . . .

    By the way, a little addendum to the last part . . . right next to the ATM machine, they had a sheet of paper with the following phrase printed in about 10 different languages . . . in small, 10 pt. font that would be impossible to read EXCEPT when standing at the ATM . . .

    "We STRONGLY suggest you review the price list prior to ordering" . . . Funny.

    On to Prague . . .

    Wednesday Afternoon
    So I flew to Prague on Wednesday and was in town by 2PM.

    As a bit of background, I LOVE Prague. I spent 4 months there while I was in college doing a study abroad in 1998, and I had been wanting to go back very badly ever since.

    Given that I had a lot of my afternoon left, I went for a nice long walk around town, hitting up many of the landmarks and trying to find some of the places that I used to frequent when I was a student. Within about 30 minutes, I was already back in love with the city.

    After a nice afternoon, I went back to the hotel to take a nap and rest up for dinner and some beers at one of the bars I used to frequent in the evening.

    Wednesday Night
    After eating, I wandered trying to find the bar (a Prague institution called 'Chateau') and finally got there around 10PM. I staked a spot at the end of the bar and ordered a beer and started reading a book. (It was a Wednesday night, I was traveling alone, the place wasn't exactly hopping).

    Come around 10:45, a couple of very attractive and slightly inebriated girls come into the bar and sit in the stools next to mine. After a few minutes of what seems as though they are enjoying each other's company quite a bit (during a few glances, I kind of got the impression they were either lesbians or very bi-sexual), they decided to take an interest in my book (Leaves of Grass). They thought it was strange that I was reading in a bar.

    We started chatting a bit and had a very nice discussion . . . both were born and raised in Prague . . . names were Jana & Svetlana (Svetlana's family was Russian) . . . both spoke perfect English . . . Jana chatted about Emile Zola, Svetlana was a bit goofier and kept jumping around for attention and being very coquettish (though it was pretty clear she was just doing it for attention, not actually flirting). Svetlana also kept covering her face and yelling about how she was embarassed about a coldsore she had on her lips. As she was yelling it, "Ahhhh . . . I have HEEERRRRPPPPEEEESSSSS on my lips!"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jana & Svetlana

    Jana is behind Svetlana. You can kind of see the coldsore on Svetlana's lip. Jana looks a little mannish in the photo (not the most flattering pic in the world for her, but she was really quite beautiful) . . . was looking around for more photos, since I remember a bunch being snapped of them while they were dancing at the club . . . but this was the only one I could find on the Czech party photo sites
    Well, after chatting for a few minutes, Jana asked me if I wanted to go to another bar with them . . . . . . after what happened in Budapest, I was . . . ummm . . . a bit hesitant.

    Jana said it's a bar owned by one of their friends . . . it just opened . . . when she mentioned the name, I remembered passing it and it seemed like a pretty decent place, so I figured 'what the hell?' If she can have a discussion about Zola and Whitman, she can't be too dangerous.

    We walked along to the other bar . . . well, Svetlana kind of skipped along . . . yelling to just about everyone who passed about the HEERRRRPPEEEESSS on her lips . . .

    At the other bar, a bunch of American ex-pat friends of Jana & Svetlana were there. They all were very nice and normal, and we had a lot of fun. While we were enjoying a few drinks, Jana & Svetlana disappeared with the owner of the place for a decent time. When Jana came back, she mentioned what they were doing . . . candying their noses . . . suggested she could set it up for me if I wanted some . . . well . . . no.

    OK, so I was a bit disappointed in them, but it was still a fun evening, and Jana still wanted to go out some more. Another friend of hers was attending a premiere party for a new Czech film ("Shut Up & Shoot Me") and invited us to go. However, by that time it was about 2AM and the party was winding down. So, instead, we all went - with a couple of the producers of the film - to another bar where we sat and had beers until 5:30AM.

    All in all, an extremely fun night. Jana and I exchanged numbers to make sure we'd catch up again before I left Prague.

    Thursday
    Thursday, I woke up quite late and just kind of wandered around the city a bit. Spoke briefly with Jana and we agreed we'd head out with Svetlana on Friday night.

    Friday
    Friday night, I hear from Jana around 11:30PM, telling me to go to Club Mecca (where the photo above was taken). I really don't like clubs, but who am I to complain? I headed out there and walked through the door around midnight and was greeted by a surprisingly big hug and kiss from Jana . . . Svetlana was jumping around on the dance floor like she was hopped up on goof balls. Another friend of Svetlana's was there - an American guy named Seamus from SF. He lived in Ireland and regularly traveled to Prague for business.

    The club was still rather dead even though it was already midnight (apparently, it takes even later for the place to even start to get interesting), so we decided to go check out another club. In the taxi on the way there, the subject of cocaine comes up again, as Svetlana decided to yell in the cab that she wanted to go get some COOCCCCAAAAAAIIIIINNNNEEEE if we were to go to this particular club.

    Thankfully, they didn't stop to get any . . . I didn't really want to be involved in a Central European drug deal involving a member of the Sikorsky family (as in Russian helicopters).

    When we made it to the club, it was packed . . . after a short period, Jana, Svetlana & Seamus disappeared to a back room for a while. When they came out, they were pretty out of their heads . . . wasn't tough to figure out that Svetlana had found someone she could get some of her desired nose candy from.

    Not long after they reappeared, I decided I was kind of sick of their high antics . . . it was kind of sad . . . so I just left. It was about 3AM and I wasn't about to stick around for another 5:30AM night when they were out of their heads.

    Saturday
    I sent a text message to Jana on Saturday to make sure she was OK, but she didn't write back. I suppose next time I'm in Prague, I'll shoot her a message, but I seriously doubt I'm going to ever see them again.

    In the End
    Oh well, Sunday I came back to Frankfurt and was very happy to be back home. It was a long and eventful trip . . . certainly one I will not forget anytime soon.

    It's just funny to me how some events were rather intertwined. If I hadn't missed my flight, I wouldn't have been able to get a flight from Budapest to Prague on Wednesday. If I hadn't caught that flight, there is no way I would have been in Chateau that night to meet Jana & Svetlana. I would have gotten in too late and been too tired from the train ride.

    Then, there were the parallels of being approached by 2 girls in each of the 2 cities . . . very different results, though neither terribly happy . . . enjoyable and interesting, nonetheless.

    My only regret from the trip is that I snapped about 300 photos around the cities, but given the crap weather and lighting, I think there are only about 15 decent keepers . . . bleh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ufcrusher
    I think he really wanted them to reach up front for his roll of quarters!

    I have to admit your story made me chuckle. I have to ask how you have an EU passport? When you are in these countries did you bother to speak auf deutsch?

    I have an EU passport because my dad was born in France and moved to the US when he was 9. He maintained his French citizenship when he was naturalized in the US, and it passed on down to me - so I have dual citizenship.

    Nah, didn't speak German. I actually speak Czech better than I speak German. Neither well at all, though!
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    That was an interesting vacation. @ss money and coked out girls. Glad you made it back OK!

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    My brother went to Jamaica and had the same story about the scam. I would repeat it but what you said is the exact same thing except you came out with more money. The other one is where a guy offers to take your picture and show you around the island and then says you owe him a tour guide fee.

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