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    Oops! She did it again: State probes Brits, KFed over baby’s injuries

    California child welfare officials investigated pop princess Britney Spears and her rapper-wannbe husband Kevin Federline after their 7-month-old son, Sean Preston, fractured his skull.

    The state’s Department of Children and Family Services along with a sheriff’s deputy went to the couple’s Malibu estate on Saturday but reportedly closed the case after ascertaining that “everyone was fine,” a sheriff’s official told TMZ.com.

    Star magazine reports that Sean Preston fell out of his high chair on April 1st but his parents didn’t take him to the hospital until April 7 after noticing that he was sleeping more than usual.

    Once there, doctors discovered Sean Preston had suffered a minor skull fracture (sometimes called a ‘scalp fracture’ in babies), and a blood clot.

    According to California law, whenever a baby is brought to the hospital with serious injuries, child welfare authorities are notified.

    The injury to the baby was the second time the DCFS paid a call on the 24-year-old pop-princess. In February, investigators visited the Spears home after the publication of photographs showing Britney driving with her then-4-month-old son in her lap, rather than in a car seat as required by law.

    Spears later apologized, saying she did it because of a “horrifying, frightful encounter with the paparazzi.”

    Star reports that she is still under investigation for that parental faux pas.

    DCFS director director Louise Grasmehr and Spears’ publicist Leslie Sloane Zelnik were both unavailable for comment yesterday.
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    These people may want to rethink their idolization of Spears.

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    How stupid is she! taking her son 6 days after he fell.


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    To say that their baby would be "messed up in the head" is an understatement considering the parents.


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    Hmmm wonder if it was really a skull fracture or whether it was just the scalp and not the skull. In little babies, scalp cuts aren't necessarily abuse (can happen with a lot of accidents) but if the skull actually had a fracture I would be much much more concerned about abuse versus accident. Little babies pretty much never suffer a skull fracture after being dropped on their head... the bone is too soft and there is too much freedom of movement between the skull bones. Someone actually did a study on this a long time ago where they looked at a bunch of babies embarassingly enough dropped by health care workers in the hospital and how many of them developed skull fractures and the answer was essentially none.

    Agree with the "stupid and probably criminally negligent" to not bring your baby to a doctor after a fall, especially if the baby seemed more sleepy afterwards. Skull fracture or not, brain bleeds can easily kill a baby.
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    [quote=molecularfire]Hmmm wonder if it was really a skull fracture or whether it was just the scalp and not the skull. In little babies, scalp cuts aren't necessarily abuse (can happen with a lot of accidents) but if the skull actually had a fracture I would be much much more concerned about abuse versus accident. Little babies pretty much never suffer a skull fracture after being dropped on their head... the bone is too soft and there is too much freedom of movement between the skull bones. Someone actually did a study on this a long time ago where they looked at a bunch of babies embarassingly enough dropped by health care workers in the hospital and how many of them developed skull fractures and the answer was essentially none. [/quote=molecularfire]

    To get back on track..I heard on the radio yesterday that the the Spears/Federline duo is claiming that their nanny DROPPED the kid from his high chair..they are idiots and don't deserve to have that baby..

    Uh..what? Scalp cuts aren't abuse? Hospital workers dropping babies?..man I'd LOVE to see that study..Got/Link? I couldn't even get through this paragraph without saying WTF? To be honest, I've NEVER heard of any kind of survey like this, nor have I heard of any healthcare worker dropping babies at a hospital..when you work in that field-this IS the kind of stuff you have meetings about..and believe you me, that is one topic we never had brought up..(had there been some mention of an incident like this somewhere in the US, we probably would have been talking about it at one point)

    And yes it's true, while the anterior fontanel does take a long time to completely close-and the posterior fontanel not as long, babies CAN get fractured skulls..and it's NOT pretty. You better recheck your info..seriously.
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    Two parents without a clue....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJordanash
    Two parents without a clue....
    Boy you got that right..don't you wonder what B.Spears was thinking when she got pregnant? Was it to hold onto her "man" or was it a publicity stunt because all of her fans couldn't take the fact she married someone who was even more white-trashier than her? Either or..that kid is in for a rough ride..I wonder what trailer park they will be living in once daddy spends all of mom's money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oblongmelon
    Boy you got that right..don't you wonder what B.Spears was thinking when she got pregnant? Was it to hold onto her "man" or was it a publicity stunt because all of her fans couldn't take the fact she married someone who was even more white-trashier than her? Either or..that kid is in for a rough ride..I wonder what trailer park they will be living in once daddy spends all of mom's money.
    I'm not saying she was ever worth reading about or seeing, but she did look much better when she wasn't around K-fed. I agree that the trailer park is calling, and soon. They are two homeless looking people driving $100,000 cars with their kid riding shotgun.

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    Uh..what? Scalp cuts aren't abuse? Hospital workers dropping babies?..man I'd LOVE to see that study..Got/Link? I couldn't even get through this paragraph without saying WTF? To be honest, I've NEVER heard of any kind of survey like this, nor have I heard of any healthcare worker dropping babies at a hospital..when you work in that field-this IS the kind of stuff you have meetings about..and believe you me, that is one topic we never had brought up..(had there been some mention of an incident like this somewhere in the US, we probably would have been talking about it at one point)

    And yes it's true, while the anterior fontanel does take a long time to completely close-and the posterior fontanel not as long, babies CAN get fractured skulls..and it's NOT pretty. You better recheck your info..seriously.
    Actually, it is very very possible for scalp cuts to be abuse. Didn't mean to imply otherwise, I'm just saying that scalp cuts do not necessarily mean abuse vs something like a skull fracture (I guess if you wanna get technical a non-linear skull fracture and/or a skull fracture with altered mental status). As for the article, I'll try to hunt it down when I'm at the hospital (don't have medline at home) and provide a link or at least the reference for it. It's a very old article... yeah... in today's environment, no hospital would ever allow a study like that to be made at their hospital... although occasionally a health care worker would drop a baby but at pretty much every hospital I've worked at (I think pretty safe assumption to apply this to every or at least the vast majority of hospitals) it would require an incident report in the very least. I'll try to grab some time and do a med-line search for the article.
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    In recent news,
    Britney's attorney Marty Singer told People magazine:
    "While there was an automatic report by the hospital to the Department of Children and Family Services... they determined that the parents were not involved in any injury and that nothing improper was done within the home."
    Wow, has anyone seen Britney lately? She's seen better days.

    http://www.sky.com/showbiz/article/0...218478,00.html

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    well, she did it YET again.

    her baby is supposed to be in a rear facing car seat for safety reasons. could someone get her a manuel to study?



    A pregnant Britney Spears drives home in her Mini convertible with hair curlers in her hair and baby Sean in the back. Safety recommendations call for infants less than a year old to sit in rear-facing seats.

    Oops, yet again! Britney in new baby gaffe
    Spears caught with infant seat facing wrong way in her convertible
    NEW YORK - Paparazzi have caught Britney Spears doing something else with her baby that’s upsetting people.

    Front-page photos in both the New York Post and Daily News show Spears driving her convertible Mini-Cooper with her eight-month-old son Sean Preston in the back, sitting in a baby seat facing frontward. Child safety advocates prefer that kids less than a year old sit in car seats facing backward.

    California officials say Spears won’t be cited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    His shirt says... "Get a Clue". Her's should say... "I'm with Stupid".


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    with millions of dollars....

    and she can not get the best nannies or staff to properly take care of the child or show her and that vanilla ice wannabe some good parenting skills.

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    That poor baby. He's getting sunburned!

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    THE VIEW did most of their opening monologue on the fact that she had the baby in the convertible..even if he is above the weight that no longer requires an infant to face rear in their car seat..(which is 20 lbs OR 1 year old)..he was in an open car, with his head uncovered, and god forbid she had an accident, something could have flown in and smacked him in the head, or he could have gotten thrown easily out of the car..and yes, he is getting sunburned..
    Man is she THAT negligent? I bet she'd go out in a snow storm all bundled up and forget to put mittens on that kid..
    plus if you ask me, he's not even buckled in the seat right..look at how his head is all flopped over..
    I think she's gross.

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    OK people we are only getting one side of the story. First thing lets say she did put a hat on the kid. If she gets in a car wreck, its not going to matter. Second, if she was not a celebrity nothing would happen. Mistakes happen to parents, especially new ones. My wife when she was a baby rolled off her changing pad. It just happened, it does not mean she was abused. People make mistakes, but I think theses are a little blown out of proportion since she is a celebrity. Do I think she is a little careless and married an IDIOT, yes, but everything she does with her kid is scrutinized. I would be prone to mistakes if everything I potentially did with my child could be questioned or put on TV or in the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeakim
    Second, if she was not a celebrity nothing would happen. Mistakes happen to parents, especially new ones.
    Actually, if she wasn't a celebrity... Child Protective Services woulda been done came in and potentially taken the child from her.

    Hell, with all the cameras around... kids nowadays get away with murder because parents are scared that someone will report them if they "do something" to them. In this particular case, Britney's "lack of doing" things is just as negligent.

    Also... for "normal folks", if a cops sees most of this... you can bet that you are gonna get a ticket for it. At least that is what happens here in Indy when you don't properly buckle up your kids.


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    You know what REALLY irritates me about the whole Brit-Brit & K-Fed circus? My initials are also K-F, and I was talking to a hardware technical support call routing person for Cisco last night and I was giving her my company info, and as soon as I started spelling my last name she says, "Oh, I almost thought you were going to say Federline (laughs)".

    I have never heard this before, and the first thing out of my mouth is, "It's Irish, not white trash thanks."

    "Oh, um.. sorry. I'll connect you to an engineer now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeakim
    OK people we are only getting one side of the story. First thing lets say she did put a hat on the kid. If she gets in a car wreck, its not going to matter. Second, if she was not a celebrity nothing would happen. Mistakes happen to parents, especially new ones. My wife when she was a baby rolled off her changing pad. It just happened, it does not mean she was abused. People make mistakes, but I think theses are a little blown out of proportion since she is a celebrity. Do I think she is a little careless and married an IDIOT, yes, but everything she does with her kid is scrutinized. I would be prone to mistakes if everything I potentially did with my child could be questioned or put on TV or in the news.
    DF is right..the Social would have been called on her and that kid would have been taken away if she was just an everyday Joe like you or me. And yes, people make mistakes..but comeon..first she drives with the baby in her lap (mistake #1)..then the kid falls out of a highchair (first they said the back "fell" off..then they said the nanny dropped him while getting him out of the chair..then they said he "rolled off the chair" when the back fell off..yet no one bothered to call the doctor, or take the kid to the ER for 6 days? COMEON..(mistake #2) Now she drives a convertible, with a baby facing the wrong way in a car seat, NOT out of the direct sun, and obviously not strapped correctly into the seat regardless of which way it was facing..And actually a hat would prevent some injuries to the baby on the off chance she had some kind of an accident in which glass or debris were flying past the kids' head..but a CAR TOP would prevent it much better..would you take your infant in a convertible all well and knowing that the department of Social Services is already putting your ass in a sling for mistake #2?....she's negligent. I don't care how much money she has that does not make her a good mother..and now she's got #2 on the way..what a shame. She should have dumped that guy before he had a chance to poke her again..stupid stupid girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevster
    You know what REALLY irritates me about the whole Brit-Brit & K-Fed circus? My initials are also K-F, and I was talking to a hardware technical support call routing person for Cisco last night and I was giving her my company info, and as soon as I started spelling my last name she says, "Oh, I almost thought you were going to say Federline (laughs)".

    I have never heard this before, and the first thing out of my mouth is, "It's Irish, not white trash thanks."

    "Oh, um.. sorry. I'll connect you to an engineer now."

    ohhh, that does suck. for the record, i never thought it of you once...
    until now... that you've mentioned it.

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    I am not saying driving with the baby in her lap is acceptable. Would I do that, no. Would I follow all the current laws about which way to face the baby, yes. All that I am saying is we only know is a third party account. We are only getting one view. What if the child did slip out of the chair. Maybe the chair was faulty? What if the nanny did drop the baby? It does not mean they are bad parents. I am not making excuses for them, but I am trying to say that this is just another example of a one sided story. Did the cops pull her over with the baby, no, so they can't give her a ticket after the fact. I also highly doubt that any injury that looks like abuse gets a visit from the cops in CA. It may be the law, but its because they are celebs. If the law was actually enforced more, maybe there would be fewer abused kids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smeakim
    I am not saying driving with the baby in her lap is acceptable. Would I do that, no. Would I follow all the current laws about which way to face the baby, yes. All that I am saying is we only know is a third party account. We are only getting one view. What if the child did slip out of the chair. Maybe the chair was faulty? What if the nanny did drop the baby? It does not mean they are bad parents. I am not making excuses for them, but I am trying to say that this is just another example of a one sided story. Did the cops pull her over with the baby, no, so they can't give her a ticket after the fact. I also highly doubt that any injury that looks like abuse gets a visit from the cops in CA. It may be the law, but its because they are celebs. If the law was actually enforced more, maybe there would be fewer abused kids.
    Heh...

    You'd make a good "spin doctor" for them. Maybe you should see if they can hire you to make their "bad stuff" look good.

    BTW.. it wouldn't be the COPS visiting them for this neglect... it would be Child Protective Services. The cops would only get involved if they did see it... but CPS will get involved on just the "suspicion" that something wrong has occured. Yet it has been documented on SEVERAL occaisions that "something wrong" did in fact occur.. and CPS hasn't stepped in. This is the difference between "celebrities" and "common people" I suppose.

    Honestly, those of us with kids know better. Do you have any of your own?
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