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    Why is GAM anonymous?

    I've never liked it myself, I've never thought it was a good idea. Especially since there are multiple GAMs.
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    To seem impartial.

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    They should outsource the GAM position. Posting members should not be GAMs.

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    There are some posts out there that you just can't not comment on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    There are some posts out there that you just can't not comment on.
    That's exactly my point. There are numerous topics GAMs want to discuss. Therefore, outsource the GAM position so that these members can participate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniteNothing
    There are some posts out there that you just can't not comment on.
    can't not = can
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    That's exactly my point. There are numerous topics GAMs want to discuss. Therefore, outsource the GAM position so that these members can participate.
    But then that GAM will want to post. I believe the position pays nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    That's exactly my point. There are numerous topics GAMs want to discuss. Therefore, outsource the GAM position so that these members can participate.
    what? whats stopping the GAM(s) from creating a new user account to use to make regular posts? (which I believe is what they do)

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    Ehh, I'm not being clear: the GAM should be a non-interested 3rd party. Someone who has no interest in involving themselves in the conversations posted here. It's the only way that they can remain neutral in the monitoring of the board.

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    GAM is anonymous so that multiple people can fulfill the role yet you can't single out which person actually performed what action (especially when you disagree with the action). Therefore under their "regular" screen names they can live normal lives in the forums without worrying about folks making comments to their personal posts versus their official posts.

    In other words, if you don't know which one did it... you can't persecute the individuals who have the authority to do it when they are on their personal accounts.

    This is most likely why GAM is anonymous.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    Ehh, I'm not being clear: the GAM should be a non-interested 3rd party. Someone who has no interest in involving themselves in the conversations posted here. It's the only way that they can remain neutral in the monitoring of the board.

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahah..Like THAT is ever going to happen..

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    Here's a great idea. Why don't you guys pay Apex money so he can hire an independant GAM company. That way, when you guys b!tch about impariality, the hired GAM can say "I am just doing my job".

    Part of the problem with the GAM account is that people will twist intentions of GAM to whatever agenda they see fit. Even if GAM were to be a posting member AND recuse themselves from specific topics while being GAM, they are still accused of NOT recusing themselves in the case of conflict of interests.

    This is the true irony of GAM, no matter what, he/she is screwed. Thus, if you guys want to pin the tail on GAM *AND* it be impartial, then pay for a GAM yourself so you can have your own pinata.

    GAM remains anonymous in an attempt to remove accusations of impartiality and reprisals against *VOLUNTEERS*, which has obviously failed miserably because people are selfish and want to tear people down to suit their own needs and agendas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendKiller
    Here's a great idea. Why don't you guys pay Apex money so he can hire an independant GAM company. That way, when you guys b!tch about impariality, the hired GAM can say "I am just doing my job".
    Deal. Bring back Pol and forward where you want the money sent.

    Quote Originally Posted by LK
    Part of the problem with the GAM account is that people will twist intentions of GAM to whatever agenda they see fit. Even if GAM were to be a posting member AND recuse themselves from specific topics while being GAM, they are still accused of NOT recusing themselves in the case of conflict of interests.

    This is the true irony of GAM, no matter what, he/she is screwed. Thus, if you guys want to pin the tail on GAM *AND* it be impartial, then pay for a GAM yourself so you can have your own pinata.

    GAM remains anonymous in an attempt to remove accusations of impartiality and reprisals against *VOLUNTEERS*, which has obviously failed miserably because people are selfish and want to tear people down to suit their own needs and agendas.
    It's a matter of opinion. Some thought the GAM wasn't being impartial. You, being a GAM, well I'm sure you thought things were impartial.

    Bring on the outsourced GAMs. Again, where do you want that $$$ sent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    Deal. Bring back Pol and forward where you want the money sent.

    It's a matter of opinion. Some thought the GAM wasn't being impartial. You, being a GAM, well I'm sure you thought things were impartial.

    Bring on the outsourced GAMs. Again, where do you want that $$$ sent?
    lets get something straight. duringmy tenure, I never modded a pol thread, anybody who I had issues with, and I stuck to stuff where people used derogatory language or posted spam.

    furthermore, I don't know who spoke of me being gam, as I never told anybody, I have my suspcions, but that is all. the person who did it, and people like you, who used it as a tool of the selfish, only disgusted me and made me decide thaty contributions to this sitewew no longer appreciated. as such, I took my reviewing elsewhere.

    your accusations are disgusting, insulting, and demeaning. if you wonder why gam is anonymous, or people to fill it are ahrd to find, go look in the mirror.

    I never asked or received anything from this site, other than to improve content in deal postings and reviews and for others to respect my opinions. I accepted gam reluctantly and rarely used it. to infer anything else is wrong.

    you wonder why I am disgusted by some people here? its because you will stoop to the lowest levels to get your way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    Deal. Bring back Pol and forward where you want the money sent.

    It's a matter of opinion. Some thought the GAM wasn't being impartial. You, being a GAM, well I'm sure you thought things were impartial.

    Bring on the outsourced GAMs. Again, where do you want that $$$ sent?
    get over it. you want to run the forums, then go create your own. The site is called got|apex... Apex runs it and he can run it however he wants. No one is making you participate; if you don't like it, then go find another forum community.

    no one can be completely impartial, the GAMs are human. They're just doing their jobs, and trying the best they can to keep things decent. We don't know what's going on behind the scenes, or their line of thinking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Airencracken
    I've never liked it myself, I've never thought it was a good idea. Especially since there are multiple GAMs.

    you must have missed that political thead where i brought this very question up... it REALLY bothers me to have anonymous moderators. I also went on a tirade and called them a gestapo fascist regime or something and was "accidently banned" for doing so.
    LK was treated unfairly

    thanks X

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendKiller
    lets get something straight. duringmy tenure, I never modded a pol thread, anybody who I had issues with, and I stuck to stuff where people used derogatory language or posted spam.

    furthermore, I don't know who spoke of me being gam, as I never told anybody, I have my suspcions, but that is all. the person who did it, and people like you, who used it as a tool of the selfish, only disgusted me and made me decide thaty contributions to this sitewew no longer appreciated. as such, I took my reviewing elsewhere.

    your accusations are disgusting, insulting, and demeaning. if you wonder why gam is anonymous, or people to fill it are ahrd to find, go look in the mirror.

    I never asked or received anything from this site, other than to improve content in deal postings and reviews and for others to respect my opinions. I accepted gam reluctantly and rarely used it. to infer anything else is wrong.

    you wonder why I am disgusted by some people here? its because you will stoop to the lowest levels to get your way.
    LK: calm down a bit bro. Tell me where I ever said you in particular were impartial.

    I don't know who the GAMs are. And as for you being a GAM, well I thought it was insinuated in this thread: http://forums.gotapex.com/showthread.php?t=98399. Again, I don't know for sure. It could be any number of people who post here. Yeah, we all have our suspicions. But that's exactly what they are...suspicions only.

    With that being said, maybe you should re-read what you posted. I'm disgusting? My "accusations" are disgusting? For Christ sakes man, read the thread! I'm simply saying it would be better for all, INCLUDING THE GAMs, if they were neutral third parties.

    That type of flying off the handle is what's truly disgusting.

    BTW, note my comment from the thread I linked above:
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    I disagreed with a whole rack of the guy's posts, but I hate to see him disappear like this.
    You think that's some BS I'm spewing? If so, hey...you're entitled to your opinion. Just check it before you go flying off the handle again.

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    Do you know what would happen if people found out I was GAM?

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    Heh

    Quote Originally Posted by ray
    Do you know what would happen if people found out I was GAM?
    more rainbows?

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    By reading some of the personal attacks..for lack of a better phrase...in this thread and the another one I can see why anyone who is willing to volunteer to be a GAM would wish to remain anonymous.
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    more rainbows?
    No, probably more related to somewhere the sun don't shine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oblongmelon
    more rainbows?
    More Cowbell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeD
    I don't know who the GAMs are. And as for you being a GAM, well I thought it was insinuated in this thread: http://forums.gotapex.com/showthread.php?t=98399. Again, I don't know for sure. It could be any number of people who post here. Yeah, we all have our suspicions. But that's exactly what they are...suspicions only.
    There have been rumors that I am a GAM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendKiller
    GAM remains anonymous in an attempt to remove accusations of impartiality and reprisals against *VOLUNTEERS*, which has obviously failed miserably because people are selfish and want to tear people down to suit their own needs and agendas.
    Heh.. I guess that's another way of saying what I said earlier


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    Quote Originally Posted by LegendKiller
    GAM remains anonymous in an attempt to remove accusations of impartiality and reprisals against *VOLUNTEERS* ...
    What??? Someone has gone so far as to accuse GAM of being impartial??? HOW DARE THEY!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by Markel
    What??? Someone has gone so far as to accuse GAM of being impartial??? HOW DARE THEY!!!!



    GAM is an unbiased bastard! And dispassionate, too, that guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ialsohaveadream
    And dispassionate, too, that guy.
    yeah! he toyed with my emotions by leading me on and never PMed me back.
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    I just love how everything turns into a huge fight!

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    Quote Originally Posted by avlena
    get over it. you want to run the forums, then go create your own. The site is called got|apex... Apex runs it and he can run it however he wants. No one is making you participate; if you don't like it, then go find another forum community.
    that's a total "America, love it or leave it" mentality. it's not so awful to think that if there are unresolved issues here that we shouldn't ask questions and expect answers.

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